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Hi,
huge congrats to your score! I just took the GMAT and had a very similar experience with the scores obtained during the mocks. I also scored a 710 in the real thing (Q47 V41). During my prep time, I scored around 700 in Kaplan CATs, took the free MGMAT and got 620 (due to my struggles with Quant). Just a week before the Test Day, I took Veritas mock test and scored a 620 which totally stressed me out. My Verbal (which is my strength) was V33 so I think that there must be something wrong with their algorithm.

Kaplan CATs scores:
CAT 1 (Diagnostic) 560 Q36 V31
CAT 2 660 Q46 V34
CAT 3 710 Q47 V41
CAT 4 720 Q47 V38

Manhattan Practice Test: 620 Q38 V36

GMAT Prep Tests:
Prep Test 1: 730 Q48 V42
Prep Test 2: 690 Q47 V38

So overall, I recommend Kaplan as well, since it has a very similar layout as the real GMAT and Manhattan for its challenging Math problems and great time management analysis (who says timing strategy will come along is so wrong, it needs practice!)

Thanks for the post! Too bad I didn't see it before my test day, it would have calmed me down, but I think there is no such comparison of the mocks on the forum so I think people will find this useful!

Good luck with everything,
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Hi,
huge congrats to your score! I just took the GMAT and had a very similar experience with the scores obtained during the mocks. I also scored a 710 in the real thing (Q47 V41). During my prep time, I scored around 700 in Kaplan CATs, took the free MGMAT and got 630 (due to my struggles with Quant). Just a week before the Test Day, I took Veritas mock test and scored a 620 which totally stressed me out. My Verbal (which is my strength) was V33 so I think that there must be something wrong with their algorithm.

So overall, I recommend Kaplan as well, since it has a very similar layout as the real GMAT and Manhattan for its challenging Math problems.

Thanks for the post! Too bad I didn't see it before my test day, it would have calmed me down, but I think there is no such comparison of the mocks on the forum so I think people will find this useful!

Good luck with everything,
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Congratulations. Great score!

Do post your mock scores on this post so that it will help future test takers. And did you notice that most of the mocks are testing problem solving skills but the official exam is the only exam that is testing decision making skills? I could understand this only when I sat in the exam.

Ron from MGMAT says that 'It doesnt matter if you can solve a question in 3 mins, what matters is what you decide to do when you see such dense questions-solve it or let go of it'.

Bottom line, the official exam was a totally different experience.

All the best with your applications.

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Congratulations. Great score!

Do post your mock scores on this post so that it will help future test takers. And did you notice that most of the mocks are testing problem solving skills but the official exam is the only exam that is testing decision making skills? I could understand this only when I sat in the exam.

Ron from MGMAT says that 'It doesnt matter if you can solve a question in 3 mins, what matters is what you decide to do when you see such dense questions-solve it or let go of it'.

Bottom line, the official exam was a totally different experience.

All the best with your applications.

Regards,
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Hey, added my scores.

Totally agree with Ron, I struggled with getting stuck at some challenging questions and then running out of time. The 'let go' approach really needs to be practiced just as much as other strategies.
However, my test day experience was not that different from that of GMAT mocks. Anyway, glad it is over haha.

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Thanks for posting your scores!

Is there any strategy that you deployed for improving quant & verbal scores? I am also having similar scores as your first kaplan CAT1.



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Hi,
huge congrats to your score! I just took the GMAT and had a very similar experience with the scores obtained during the mocks. I also scored a 710 in the real thing (Q47 V41). During my prep time, I scored around 700 in Kaplan CATs, took the free MGMAT and got 620 (due to my struggles with Quant). Just a week before the Test Day, I took Veritas mock test and scored a 620 which totally stressed me out. My Verbal (which is my strength) was V33 so I think that there must be something wrong with their algorithm.

Kaplan CATs scores:
CAT 1 (Diagnostic) 560 Q36 V31
CAT 2 660 Q46 V34
CAT 3 710 Q47 V41
CAT 4 720 Q47 V38

Manhattan Practice Test: 620 Q38 V36

GMAT Prep Tests:
Prep Test 1: 730 Q48 V42
Prep Test 2: 690 Q47 V38

So overall, I recommend Kaplan as well, since it has a very similar layout as the real GMAT and Manhattan for its challenging Math problems and great time management analysis (who says timing strategy will come along is so wrong, it needs practice!)

Thanks for the post! Too bad I didn't see it before my test day, it would have calmed me down, but I think there is no such comparison of the mocks on the forum so I think people will find this useful!

Good luck with everything,
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Thanks for posting your scores!

Is there any strategy that you deployed for improving quant & verbal scores? I am also having similar scores as your first kaplan CAT1.

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I went through the Kaplan Guide Book and adopted their strategies (it suited me pretty well). At first, I just forced myself to deploy the strategies no matter what time it took me to solve the problems (especially with verbal). Later on, I started to 'stress myself' with the clock ticking, just timing myself within every single problem to see how much time it took me and also to learn to let go when it's time.
As for Quant, I went through the Math Workbook which helped me refresh the basics (my knowledge was really poor at the beginning) but still deploying the Kaplan strategies.
Later on, I started with official GMAT questions to get used to the real type of questions I might see on Test Day. Starting two weeks before my Test Day, I did a mock test every other day to get used to the length and exhaustion (that was probably the greatest challenge for me) and improve my timing and decision-making.

Hope this helps :)
Good luck with your prep, let me know if you would like to know anything else,
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hi

see the breakdown of quant scores veritas and gmat prep awarded me. greater accuracy, harder questions. still q43. I cant get over q43 in vertias.

i ve traced all the questions to the gmat club to recheck the level of difficulty. so the benchmark is representative. i also have the questions with links saved in excel. questions are arranged in order.
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see the breakdown of quant scores veritas and gmat prep awarded me. greater accuracy, harder questions. still q43. I cant get over q43 in vertias.

i ve traced all the questions to the gmat club to recheck the level of difficulty. so the benchmark is representative. i also have the questions with links saved in excel. questions are arranged in order.

Shasadou thanks for posting.

But how is it possible to get Q49 with 17 mistakes? I thought Q49 was 8-10 mistakes.
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see the breakdown of quant scores veritas and gmat prep awarded me. greater accuracy, harder questions. still q43. I cant get over q43 in vertias.

i ve traced all the questions to the gmat club to recheck the level of difficulty. so the benchmark is representative. i also have the questions with links saved in excel. questions are arranged in order.

Shasadou thanks for posting.

But how is it possible to get Q49 with 17 mistakes? I thought Q49 was 8-10 mistakes.

I see a hidden assumption in your question =) either I lie or mistake or the software errs. :lol: you can see the 37 questions in order in my debrief post. open gmac 2 sheet in my err log 650-q43v36-plateu-210516.html
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Alchemist14, thanks for the review! I would like to share an official response from Stacey Koprince, our Senior Manager of Academics:

Thanks so much for your feedback about our materials. I would like to add one comment.

We are very careful not to copy questions from any official source material. We do, of course, study the source material carefully in order to produce questions that are "GMAT-like" (ie, that mimic the real test in appropriate ways), but we have quality-control checks in place to ensure that writers are not copying straight from official sources.

Of course, standardized tests do follow general patterns (hence the name standardized!), so it's not uncommon to recognize similar aspects in different problems. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that one question reminded someone of another question - I see those connections among official problems all the time. The ability to recognize those connections is one important aspect of doing well on this kind of test.

If you do find something on one of our tests that you think too closely resembles something that you saw elsewhere, we would definitely like to hear about it; please let us know. If anything slips through our "safety nets," we will take immediate action.

Congratulations on your 710!
p.s. I agree that our IR is too hard. We're working on it. :)
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Thanks so much for your feedback about our materials. I would like to add one comment.

We are very careful not to copy questions from any official source material. We do, of course, study the source material carefully in order to produce questions that are "GMAT-like" (ie, that mimic the real test in appropriate ways), but we have quality-control checks in place to ensure that writers are not copying straight from official sources.

Of course, standardized tests do follow general patterns (hence the name standardized!), so it's not uncommon to recognize similar aspects in different problems. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that one question reminded someone of another question - I see those connections among official problems all the time. The ability to recognize those connections is one important aspect of doing well on this kind of test.

If you do find something on one of our tests that you think too closely resembles something that you saw elsewhere, we would definitely like to hear about it; please let us know. If anything slips through our "safety nets," we will take immediate action.

Congratulations on your 710!
p.s. I agree that our IR is too hard. We're working on it. :)

It's crazy hard. I get 3/4 on MGMAT and 7/8 on GMAT Prep. So maybe just double the score? There, problem solved! :-D
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I see a hidden assumption in your question =) either I lie or mistake or the software errs. :lol: you can see the 37 questions in order in my debrief post. open gmac 2 sheet in my err log 650-q43v36-plateu-210516.html

Wait, were you taking GMAT Prep CATS or GMAT Club CATs? If it was the latter, I think their scoring algorithm is way off. My first (and last) GMAC CAT I missed two verbal questions total (one 600 and one 700) and I got a V39. Not possible. For comparison, I've been getting V45-51 on GMAT Prep missing 5-0 questions. I don't know how much faith I'd put in the GMAC CAT.
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Kelzie01,

GMAC = Graduate Management Admission Council, the makers of the GMAT. So GMATPrep is the GMAC test.
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Kelzie01,

GMAC = Graduate Management Admission Council, the makers of the GMAT. So GMATPrep is the GMAC test.

That makes sense. Was thinking GMAC = GMAT Club!
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Thanks for your post Alchemist14 its quite demotivating hitting constant stagnation in the Veritas tests.
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