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12 Jun 2018, 12:47
Can someone explain Q4 and why option E is incorrect
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17 Jun 2018, 09:55
Re "According to the passage, the 1972 EEOC ruling did which..."

Since paragraph discusses about maternity leave, which I understand as a leave you take once you had a baby, I considered option D as incorrect because it only refers to "pregnant women". That mean after given birth, they will not be consider for maternity leave.

What is wrong with my logic ?

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24 Jun 2018, 07:13
3. The primary purpose of the passage is to
(A) present an alternative to a commonly accepted explanation for a phenomenon
(B) reexamine a previously discredited explanation for a phenomenon in light of new evidence
(C) criticize politicians and scholars for failing to anticipate a phenomenon
(D) correct a common misconception about the impact a phenomenon has had on a government policy
(E) analyze the ways in which a phenomenon has changed over time in response to market forces

Can someone please explain why option C is incorrect - in the last para, the author clearly says that "....politicians and scholars have failed to recognize its effects" which is pointing out an error?
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10 Jul 2018, 11:29
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3. The primary purpose of the passage is to
(A) present an alternative to a commonly accepted explanation for a phenomenon
(B) reexamine a previously discredited explanation for a phenomenon in light of new evidence
(C) criticize politicians and scholars for failing to anticipate a phenomenon
(D) correct a common misconception about the impact a phenomenon has had on a government policy
(E) analyze the ways in which a phenomenon has changed over time in response to market forces

Can someone please explain why option C is incorrect - in the last para, the author clearly says that "....politicians and scholars have failed to recognize its effects" which is pointing out an error?

Sure, you could say that the author is being critical of the explanation offered by politicians and scholars. However, the author's primary purpose is not to criticize the politicians and scholars themselves. Instead, the author wants you to walk away believing that his/her alternative explanation is more accurate that the commonly accepted explanation of the politicians and scholars.

More importantly, the passage doesn't say anything about their failing to "anticipate" any phenomenon. Instead, the passage simply suggests that their analyses of maternity-leave policies are not accurate. So (C) can be eliminated.

I hope this helps!
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03 Oct 2018, 07:59
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For the primary purpose , can you pl explain why B is not the answer.
The politicians and other scholars regard labor market as the cause of better maternity leave policies . Hence they have discredited the explanation-govt policy` impact. Author has provided evidences to ensure that public policy does hold a significant place. Hence b seems to be a valid answer.
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For the primary purpose , can you pl explain why B is not the answer.
The politicians and other scholars regard labor market as the cause of better maternity leave policies . Hence they have discredited the explanation-govt policy` impact. Author has provided evidences to ensure that public policy does hold a significant place. Hence b seems to be a valid answer.

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(B) reexamine a previously discredited explanation for a phenomenon in light of new evidence

The explanation the author reexamines is: the labor market explains employers' maternity-leave policies more than public policy.

At no point are we told that this explanation has been previously discredited. Rather, this explanation has been widely accepted by "many politicians, business leaders, and scholars." Maybe the confusion is coming from the fact that those people have "discounted the role of public policy"? They do not, however, discredit the explanation that the author examines.

The author is writing this passage in order to question the wide acceptance of this explanation. If anyone is discrediting the explanation, it's the author -- nobody else previously did so.

I hope this helps!
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06 Oct 2018, 19:36
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hassu13 wrote:
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For the primary purpose , can you pl explain why B is not the answer.
The politicians and other scholars regard labor market as the cause of better maternity leave policies . Hence they have discredited the explanation-govt policy` impact. Author has provided evidences to ensure that public policy does hold a significant place. Hence b seems to be a valid answer.

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(B) reexamine a previously discredited explanation for a phenomenon in light of new evidence

The explanation the author reexamines is: the labor market explains employers' maternity-leave policies more than public policy.

At no point are we told that this explanation has been previously discredited. Rather, this explanation has been widely accepted by "many politicians, business leaders, and scholars." Maybe the confusion is coming from the fact that those people have "discounted the role of public policy"? They do not, however, discredit the explanation that the author examines.

The author is writing this passage in order to question the wide acceptance of this explanation. If anyone is discrediting the explanation, it's the author -- nobody else previously did so.

I hope this helps!

GMATNinja your perception from the passage is that the explanation is: does the labor market explain employers' maternity-leave policies more than public policy. However, what i percieve from the passage is the explanation that: public policy holds more importance in the maternity leave policies. This explanation of public policy holding predence was discounted. Hence, the explanation of public policy was discredited. To emphasise more on his explanation, the author has given further evidences that have happened in the past.
Hence, i feel that the option b is correct. The perception of yours is different from mine. I still cant get how am i wrong.
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17 Oct 2018, 22:18
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hassu13 wrote:
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For the primary purpose , can you pl explain why B is not the answer.
The politicians and other scholars regard labor market as the cause of better maternity leave policies . Hence they have discredited the explanation-govt policy` impact. Author has provided evidences to ensure that public policy does hold a significant place. Hence b seems to be a valid answer.

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(B) reexamine a previously discredited explanation for a phenomenon in light of new evidence

The explanation the author reexamines is: the labor market explains employers' maternity-leave policies more than public policy.

At no point are we told that this explanation has been previously discredited. Rather, this explanation has been widely accepted by "many politicians, business leaders, and scholars." Maybe the confusion is coming from the fact that those people have "discounted the role of public policy"? They do not, however, discredit the explanation that the author examines.

The author is writing this passage in order to question the wide acceptance of this explanation. If anyone is discrediting the explanation, it's the author -- nobody else previously did so.

I hope this helps!

GMATNinja your perception from the passage is that the explanation is: does the labor market explain employers' maternity-leave policies more than public policy. However, what i percieve from the passage is the explanation that: public policy holds more importance in the maternity leave policies. This explanation of public policy holding predence was discounted. Hence, the explanation of public policy was discredited. To emphasise more on his explanation, the author has given further evidences that have happened in the past.
Hence, i feel that the option b is correct. The perception of yours is different from mine. I still cant get how am i wrong.

What explanation has previously been discredited?

In order for us to accept choice (B) as correct, we must show that there was some prior explanation that emphasized public policy. We must also show that this phantom explanation was, at some point in the past, discredited. To "reexamine a previously discredited explanation in light of new evidence" would involve:

1) describing an old explanation,
2) telling us that it previously was discredited,
3) telling us about some new evidence, and then
4) reexamining that same old explanation in light of the new evidence.

That's not what happens in this passage. The author describes a commonly held, present-day explanation that emphasizes the role of labor markets: "employers were already providing maternity leave in response to the increase in the number of women workers." Ah, okay, so the number of women workers increased, and that's why employers started providing maternity leave. This is what many politicians, business leaders, and scholars believe to this day.

This portion of the passage...

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Employers did create maternity-leave programs in the 1970’s and 1980’s, but not as a purely voluntary response in the absence of any government mandate. In 1972, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) ruled that employers who allowed leaves for disabling medical conditions must also allow them for maternity and that failure to do so would constitute sex discrimination under the Civil Rights Act of 1964. As early as 1973, a survey found that 58 percent of large employers had responded with new maternity-leave policies. Because the 1972 EEOC ruling was contested in court, the ruling won press attention that popularized maternity-leave policies.

...is dedicated to presenting an alternative to the commonly held explanation.

The author does not reexamine what happened with the number of women in markets. The author does not reexamine the relationship between this number and employers' decision to provide maternity leave. Instead, the author presents an entirely new explanation: that public policy rulings focused on discrimination led to maternity leave being introduced as early as 1973.

So, is the primary purpose to reexamine an explanation from the past? No. There was no past explanation to reexamine. In order to accept (B), we'd really have to twist some of the author's words or ignore critical wording in choice (B) as it's written.

The primary purpose of the passage is to present the author's new explanation -- an alternative to a commonly accepted explanation. (A) is a much better answer than (B), so we stick with (A).

I hope this helps!
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18 Oct 2018, 09:57
Could someone please explain why D is OA for Qno. 04?
I understand C is incorrect as it refers ALL Employees whereas in passage we see "employers who allowed leaves for disabling medical conditions"
But why is D correct? How is the statement generalizing?
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31 Oct 2018, 15:21
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Could someone please explain why D is OA for Qno. 04?
I understand C is incorrect as it refers ALL Employees whereas in passage we see "employers who allowed leaves for disabling medical conditions"
But why is D correct? How is the statement generalizing?

As Skywalker18 pointed out in this reply, choice (D) — as well as the passage — is concerned with the rights held by people with disabling medical conditions. According to the passage, the 1972 ruling stated that if an employer grants such rights to any person with a disabling condition, then they must also extend those same rights to any pregnant woman in their workforce.

Whether or not all employers literally extended these rights to the greater population of women in general is never mentioned. But with regards to the right to employee leave at a given company, the passage states that women at that company hold the same right as people with disabling medical conditions at that company.
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Could someone please explain why D is OA for Qno. 04?
I understand C is incorrect as it refers ALL Employees whereas in passage we see "employers who allowed leaves for disabling medical conditions"
But why is D correct? How is the statement generalizing?

Hi ovrup007

Could you please specify the generalization you have mentioned in your post? Did you mean how can we extend what applied to the set of employers who allowed leaves for disabling medical conditions to talking about generally equating the rights to leave pregnant women and people with disabling medical conditions had?

If yes, then let's say the government comes up with a law that the employers who give leaves for employees grieving the loss of an immediate family member must also give leaves for the wedding of an immediate family member. What does this mean? This means that whatever leave policy you have for the first set (grieving loss), you have the same leave policy for the second set (wedding celebration). Correct?

This is the essence of the law - there is no difference between the rights to leave set 1 and 2 have. So, I can say that per this law, people celebrating the wedding of an immediate family member have the same right to leave as people grieving the loss of an immediate family member.

Hope this analysis helps!

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01 Nov 2018, 10:25
Did all of them correctly, but took 9 mins. Made a time line in my head to follow the events. But I still kept second guessing my answers and wasted precious time doing so. How can I address this? Cheers.
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Are you certain the OA is B? I would be willing to bet that the OA is D on this one...

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Hello Kyle..

Could you please explain to me, why the correct answer is Option D ? Where is the "motivation part" talked about in the passage ?

Thanks
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Are you certain the OA is B? I would be willing to bet that the OA is D on this one...

KW

Hello Kyle..

Could you please explain to me, why the correct answer is Option D ? Where is the "motivation part" talked about in the passage ?

Thanks
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Hi SidSpeaks32

Your question is regarding the OA of Question no.2. This questions asks us to essentially compare author's POV and the view point of politicians, business leaders, and scholars mentioned earlier in the passage wrt the maternity leave policy prior to the passage of the FMLA (in 1993).

To answer this question, please pay attention to the following two portions of the passage:

Many politicians, business leaders, and scholars discount the role of public policy and emphasize the role of the labor market when explaining employers’ maternity-leave policies, arguing that prior to the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) of 1993, employers were already providing maternity leave in response to the increase in the number of women workers.

Employers did create maternity-leave programs in the 1970’s and 1980’s, but not as a purely voluntary response in the absence of any government mandate.

So, in the first sentence of the passage, the author tells us what the politicians et al think as regards why the employers were providing the maternity leave even before the FMLA. As per them, the employers did so on their own because they wanted to cater to the demographics of the workforce.

The author then goes on to give his/her viewpoint in the second sentence and agrees that yes, indeed the employers had been providing maternity leave BUT it was not entirely a voluntary action taken by them in the absence of any government mandate. The author then goes on to explain this viewpoint by giving us the historical context and letting us know that the politicians et al miss the impact the ruling of 1972 had on the employers. In other words, the author explains to us why we can't simply say that the reason employers had been providing the maternity leave option before 1993 was to just cater to the increasing number of women in the workforce; we have to account the impact the 1972 ruling had on motivating/making employers to do so. The author bolsters this POV in the last sentence of the passage as well.

Hope the above response clarifies your query.

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neetis5 wrote:
SidSpeaks32 wrote:
KyleWiddison wrote:
Are you certain the OA is B? I would be willing to bet that the OA is D on this one...

KW

Hello Kyle..

Could you please explain to me, why the correct answer is Option D ? Where is the "motivation part" talked about in the passage ?

Thanks
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Hi SidSpeaks32

Your question is regarding the OA of Question no.2. This questions asks us to essentially compare author's POV and the view point of politicians, business leaders, and scholars mentioned earlier in the passage wrt the maternity leave policy prior to the passage of the FMLA (in 1993).

To answer this question, please pay attention to the following two portions of the passage:

Many politicians, business leaders, and scholars discount the role of public policy and emphasize the role of the labor market when explaining employers’ maternity-leave policies, arguing that prior to the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) of 1993, employers were already providing maternity leave in response to the increase in the number of women workers.

Employers did create maternity-leave programs in the 1970’s and 1980’s, but not as a purely voluntary response in the absence of any government mandate.

So, in the first sentence of the passage, the author tells us what the politicians et al think as regards why the employers were providing the maternity leave even before the FMLA. As per them, the employers did so on their own because they wanted to cater to the demographics of the workforce.

The author then goes on to give his/her viewpoint in the second sentence and agrees that yes, indeed the employers had been providing maternity leave BUT it was not entirely a voluntary action taken by them in the absence of any government mandate. The author then goes on to explain this viewpoint by giving us the historical context and letting us know that the politicians et al miss the impact the ruling of 1972 had on the employers. In other words, the author explains to us why we can't simply say that the reason employers had been providing the maternity leave option before 1993 was to just cater to the increasing number of women in the workforce; we have to account the impact the 1972 ruling had on motivating/making employers to do so. The author bolsters this POV in the last sentence of the passage as well.

Hope the above response clarifies your query.

Cheers!

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Nice work on this one, neetis5!

pineapple123456 wrote:
Did all of them correctly, but took 9 mins. Made a time line in my head to follow the events. But I still kept second guessing my answers and wasted precious time doing so. How can I address this? Cheers.

pineapple123456, if you haven't done so already, check out this article for general help with navigating RC passages efficiently. You might also get a little bit of mileage from this video, which covers some similar ideas, but in a different format.

I hope these help a bit!
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neetis5 wrote:
SidSpeaks32 wrote:
KyleWiddison wrote:
Are you certain the OA is B? I would be willing to bet that the OA is D on this one...

KW

Hello Kyle..

Could you please explain to me, why the correct answer is Option D ? Where is the "motivation part" talked about in the passage ?

Thanks
SidSpeaks32

Your question is regarding the OA of Question no.2. This questions asks us to essentially compare author's POV and the view point of politicians, business leaders, and scholars mentioned earlier in the passage wrt the maternity leave policy prior to the passage of the FMLA (in 1993).

To answer this question, please pay attention to the following two portions of the passage:

Many politicians, business leaders, and scholars discount the role of public policy and emphasize the role of the labor market when explaining employers’ maternity-leave policies, arguing that prior to the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) of 1993, employers were already providing maternity leave in response to the increase in the number of women workers.

Employers did create maternity-leave programs in the 1970’s and 1980’s, but not as a purely voluntary response in the absence of any government mandate.

So, in the first sentence of the passage, the author tells us what the politicians et al think as regards why the employers were providing the maternity leave even before the FMLA. As per them, the employers did so on their own because they wanted to cater to the demographics of the workforce.

The author then goes on to give his/her viewpoint in the second sentence and agrees that yes, indeed the employers had been providing maternity leave BUT it was not entirely a voluntary action taken by them in the absence of any government mandate. The author then goes on to explain this viewpoint by giving us the historical context and letting us know that the politicians et al miss the impact the ruling of 1972 had on the employers. In other words, the author explains to us why we can't simply say that the reason employers had been providing the maternity leave option before 1993 was to just cater to the increasing number of women in the workforce; we have to account the impact the 1972 ruling had on motivating/making employers to do so. The author bolsters this POV in the last sentence of the passage as well.

Hope the above response clarifies your query.

Cheers!

NS

Of course,you are most welcome to answer my query Thank you very much NS. Very nice way of explanation

Cheers!
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Of course,you are most welcome to answer my query Thank you very much NS. Very nice way of explanation

Cheers!
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Thanks SidSpeaks32 and GMATNinja!

Cheers!

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