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Choice D uses the verb could have been bought. This verb phrase suggests a possibility of an action that could have happened but actually does not happen. This certainly is not the intended meaning of the sentence.



For the colored portion above, I feel that the intended meaning of the sentence is exactly that -- a possible present situations that have not happened --- for which "could have been" appears to be correct phrase to use.



Hello sevenplusplus,


In my explanation of Choice D, what I meant to say is that per the context of the sentence, we need to present an action that will possibly take place. That is why the sentence uses the verb could be bought.

The verb could have been bought denotes an action that certainly had the possibility to happen but actually never took place ever.

Let me present an example here:

In the accident last night, I was lucky to have lost only the headlights of my car; the damages could have been worse.

The above-mentioned sentence clearly mentions the loss I suffered. I just lost the headlights. The latter part of the sentence suggests that there was possibility of more serious damages but nothing of that sort actually took place.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Hi Experts/ sayantanc2k,

Is my understanding below correct?

Could be bought - present tense passive
Could have been bought - present perfect passive
Could have bought - present perfect.

What is the role of could here? Its not a past tense verb of could, so its just used to show possibility? Can we say its a helping verb?

Does adding could/would to present perfect makes it a past event that didn't happen as in choice D?

Also, what's the difference in meaning in the below?

- stocks that could be easily bought directly
- stocks that could easily be bought directly

Why can't 'easily', an adverb, modify the verb 'bought' in both sentences?

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sdlife Yes, looks like you are on the right track with all that.

As for your final question, the point in the sentence is to show that it would have been easy to buy the stocks directly. So we need "easily" to apply not just to "bought," but to "bought directly." If we put "be" in front of "easily," we're saying that the stocks are "easily bought," and that this is happening directly. By putting "be" after "easily," we make it clear that "easily" modifies the whole thing: "be bought directly."
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Can you please confirm if SIMPLE FUTURE tense in (E) is the only one that makes sense
in the context of sentence?
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Can you please confirm if SIMPLE FUTURE tense in (E) is the only one that makes sense
in the context of sentence?

I'm not sure that I understand the question, but I'll give it a shot!

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(E) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help in buying stocks that could easily be

In (E), "are turning" is actually a form of the present tense -- if you like jargon, it's the present progressive tense, which means that it's in the present, but the "-ing" emphasizes that it's an ongoing action in the present. (More on "-ing" verbs here.)

Could you use another form of the verb here? I guess simple present ("turn" instead of "are turning") would be fine, too -- it's just that simple present describes a general characteristic, and it seems that the sentence is trying to emphasize that this change in investor behavior is happening right now. So present progressive ("are turning") is arguably better, but it wouldn't be wrong to choose simple present.

The second verb, the "could be" in the phrase "could easily be bought directly" isn't in the future tense, either -- it's present tense, but the phrase "could be" indicates possibility. If it helps, replace "could" with "can", and the meaning is reasonably similar in this particular sentence.

(E) makes sense since both verbs are in some form of the present tense. I suppose that we could rewrite this in the future tense, but it would very dramatically change the meaning of the sentence.

I'm not sure if I answered your question, but I hope this helps!
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Thank you GMATNinja

Oops for the confusion! ;) Yes I was talking about the highlighted verb:

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Not trusting themselves to choose wisely among the wide array of investment opportunities on the market, many people are turning to stockbrokers for help in buying stocks that could easily be bought directly.


I guess 'be' in passive tense confused me a bit. :-)

Does 'be' acts as a helping verb (is/are) in passive voice?

Hope we are on same page.
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Thank you GMATNinja

Oops for the confusion! ;) Yes I was talking about the highlighted verb:

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Not trusting themselves to choose wisely among the wide array of investment opportunities on the market, many people are turning to stockbrokers for help in buying stocks that could easily be bought directly.


I guess 'be' in passive tense confused me a bit. :-)

Does 'be' acts as a helping verb (is/are) in passive voice?

Hope we are on same page.



Hello Arpit/ adkikani,

I am not sure if your doubt still persists. Here is the answer nonetheless. :-)


In Choice E, the verb could be bought is indeed in passive voice.


Hope this helps. :-)
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GMATNinja I see your explanation mentioning D wrong because there is use of modal verb.
Whatever material I have gone through until now there is mention of Simple, Progressive and Perfect tenses.
It anyways is overwhelming for me and now I see a question with modal form. So, I was wondering what all forms one should know?

sayantanc2k generis egmat :
Can anyone please suggest exhaustive list of what all verb forms we need to master for GMAT?

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GMATNinja I see your explanation mentioning D wrong because there is use of modal verb.
Whatever material I have gone through until now there is mention of Simple, Progressive and Perfect tenses.
It anyways is overwhelming for me and now I see a question with modal form. So, I was wondering what all forms one should know?

sayantanc2k generis egmat :
Can anyone please suggest exhaustive list of what all verb forms we need to master for GMAT?

If you ask 40 different test-prep experts, you'll probably get about 40 different answers to your question! Most test-prep books basically run through EVERY verb tense, mood, and form that exists. And hey, they're all part of the English language, so in theory, they're all fair game.

But in practice? If you already have a fundamental command of English, I don't think that memorizing a crapload of verb tenses is all that helpful. But I'm a little bit of a heretic. :)

This video is basically an hourlong response to your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxANHcxwbeM. Basically, my argument is that you should have a deep understanding of past perfect tense, since that appears frequently on the GMAT. Beyond that, the key is to have a strong grasp of how verb tenses might change the meaning of a sentence -- but I personally don't think that it's helpful to obsess over the technicalities of most other verb forms, as long as you have an intuitive grasp of their meaning.

I hope the video helps a bit!
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Thanks for your reply GMATNinja. I have gone through your videos and they are pretty good.
I am stuck in V30's and on my analysis of OG 2018 I found I got most of the Verb forms questions wrong.
So, I am kind of wondering what else I need to understand and master to reach elite V40.
I still have few questions of OG left to be practiced. So, what else should I practice? Could you please guide me on that?

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GMATNinja I see your explanation mentioning D wrong because there is use of modal verb.
Whatever material I have gone through until now there is mention of Simple, Progressive and Perfect tenses.
It anyways is overwhelming for me and now I see a question with modal form. So, I was wondering what all forms one should know?

sayantanc2k generis egmat :
Can anyone please suggest exhaustive list of what all verb forms we need to master for GMAT?

If you ask 40 different test-prep experts, you'll probably get about 40 different answers to your question! Most test-prep books basically run through EVERY verb tense, mood, and form that exists. And hey, they're all part of the English language, so in theory, they're all fair game.

But in practice? If you already have a fundamental command of English, I don't think that memorizing a crapload of verb tenses is all that helpful. But I'm a little bit of a heretic. :)

This video is basically an hourlong response to your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxANHcxwbeM. Basically, my argument is that you should have a deep understanding of past perfect tense, since that appears frequently on the GMAT. Beyond that, the key is to have a strong grasp of how verb tenses might change the meaning of a sentence -- but I personally don't think that it's helpful to obsess over the technicalities of most other verb forms, as long as you have an intuitive grasp of their meaning.

I hope the video helps a bit!

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Thanks for your reply GMATNinja. I have gone through your videos and they are pretty good.
I am stuck in V30's and on my analysis of OG 2018 I found I got most of the Verb forms questions wrong.
So, I am kind of wondering what else I need to understand and master to reach elite V40.
I still have few questions of OG left to be practiced. So, what else should I practice? Could you please guide me on that?

Heh heh, that's the gigantic question that has no easy answer. I wish that there was some magic advice I could give to make your score jump from the 30s to an elite level, but that's not really how it works. (Though I can promise that some test-prep company is about to point you to their books/courses/articles/videos, with the implication that THEIR stuff really is magic. Here's a great post from a legendary 760-scorer about how test-prep is kind of like fad diets: https://gmatclub.com/forum/four-years-t ... l#p2069345)

Anyway, here are a few resources that might help a bit:

  • Beginner's guides to RC,CR, and SC if you haven't read them already. (I suspect very strongly that you're beyond these, but maybe there's a nugget in one of them that will help.)
  • A video on verb tenses and meaning on the GMAT, since it sounds like those might be giving you a disproportionate amount of trouble.
  • An article on using LSATs for GMAT CR and RC, since it sounds like you've mostly exhausted the OGs. LSATs aren't perfect, but they're WAY better than doing a bunch of non-official verbal questions. The article discusses the limitations of the LSAT, too.

And when you say that you're "stuck in the V30s", is that on GMATPrep tests? If so, the GMATPrep software provides a breakdown by verbal question type, so that might help you focus your efforts. And if you haven't done any GMATPrep exams yet, it might be time to do one, and see where you really stand. It's basically impossible for any test-prep company to accurately copy the style of the actual exam -- especially on verbal -- so take any non-official verbal test scores with a grain of salt.

I hope this helps, and let me know how things go for you!
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One Straight clue - Idiom "For help in " narrows it to 2 options B & E.
B is incorrect as the sentence should have the main subject post comma "," which is "people" and not stock brokers , hence answer option E is correct.

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New post 11 Oct 2018, 07:50
only problem lies between option C AND D
Idiomatically ASSIST X IN DOING Y
OR HELPING X IN DOING Y IS CORRECT.

SO clear winner is option E
Option C is wrong at 1st sight due to "pronoun THEM",WHICH IS AMBIGUOUS.THEM can refer to brokers and people,so why to waist time in that option.
Option A,B are out of the league from 1st second.due to modifier issue.
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Let's take a closer look at this question, and tackle one issue at a time! Before we dive in, here is the original question, with any major differences between the options highlighted in orange:

Not trusting themselves to choose wisely among the wide array of investment opportunities on the market, stockbrokers are helping many people who turn to them to buy stocks that could be easily bought directly.

(A) stockbrokers are helping many people who turn to them to buy stocks that could be easily
(B) stockbrokers are helping many people who are turning to them for help in buying stocks that they could easily have
(C) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help from them to buy stocks that could be easily
(D) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help to buy stocks that easily could have been
(E) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help in buying stocks that could easily be

After a quick glance over the options, a few key differences pop out:

1. Starting with "stockbrokers" vs. "many people" (modifier-antecedent agreement)
2. Form of the verb "to help": helping / for help to / for help in (verb tense/idioms)
3. How they end: could be easily / could easily have / could have been (verb tense/meaning)


Let's start with #1 on our list because no matter which method we choose, we'll eliminate 2-3 options right away. The modifying phrase, "Not trusting themselves to choose wisely among the wide array of investment opportunities on the market," MUST be immediately followed by who/what it's referring to. In this case, the people hiring stockbrokers are the ones who don't trust themselves to invest properly. Let's see which options correctly place the modifier and antecedent next to each other:

(A) stockbrokers are helping many people who turn to them to buy stocks that could be easily
(B) stockbrokers are helping many people who are turning to them for help in buying stocks that they could easily have
(C) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help from them to buy stocks that could be easily
(D) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help to buy stocks that easily could have been
(E) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help in buying stocks that could easily be

We can eliminate options A & B because they don't place the people who hire stockbrokers next to the modifier phrase. It doesn't make sense to say that the stockbrokers don't trust themselves to buy stocks - that's their job!

Now that we've narrowed it down to 3 options, let's take a look at #2 and #3 on the list, and see which option handles both correctly:

(C) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help from them to buy stocks that could be easily

This option is INCORRECT because it's redundant. It's not necessary to repeat that people are getting help from stockbrokers - it's clear enough already without the extra addition of a pronoun. It's also not idiomatically correct to say that someone seeks "help to" do something - we say that we seek out "help in" doing something.

(D) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help to buy stocks that easily could have been

This is INCORRECT for a couple reasons. First, it's not idiomatically correct to say a person seeks "help to" doing something - they seek "help in" doing something. Second, by using the past tense "could have been," it slightly changes the meaning. It says that people are turning to stockbrokers in the present to buy stocks that were hard to buy in the past, but aren't difficult to buy today?? That doesn't really make sense. They're easy to buy in the present too, but people still hire stockbrokers to help them in the present.

(E) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help in buying stocks that could easily be

This is CORRECT! It uses the correct idiom structure "for help in" doing something, and it uses present tense to say that stocks are easy to buy in the present, but people still hire brokers to help them anyway. The meaning is logical and clear, so this is our best choice.

There you have it - option E is our correct choice!


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I agree with EMPOWERgmatVerbal 's approach.

I would also add the following to (c) and (d):
(C) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help from them to buy stocks that could be easily
It should be easier to see how this is redundant if you read it slowly.

Many people are turning to stockbrokers for help - this means the stockbrokers are providing help, so why do we need to reiterate "from them"

(D) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help to buy stocks that easily could have been

"Easily could" is unidiomatic and awkward. It should be "could easily".
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i look at Oxford dictionary online

if "help" is a noun, there are only
help with something
or
help in doing something

if "help" is a verb, we have the following idiom
I help somebody to do/ I help to do
in this pattern, subject of "help" is person giving the help.

so, I think that in our problem, "help" is a noun, and only "help in buying" is correct.

and the sentence " I return to you for a help to buy" is wrong.
" to do" is used only with "help" as a verb and when the subject of verb "help" is a person giving the help.

if I am correct, th idioms are strict and must be in correct pattern

do you think so? Am I correct ?
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"help" as a verb can go with doing but in this case, the subject of the verb "help" is a person giving the help

I could help in studying gmat.

I could help you to learn gmat.

in this pattern, "to learn" is used but "to learn" refers to "you" but dose not refer to subject "I "

so our choice C, "they return to the stockbrokers for a help to buy" is wrong because "to buy" refers to subject of the sentence and because in the sentence "help" is a noun and "buying" must be used with a noun "help"

so, "help" as a verb can go with "to do" if " to do" refers to the agent who receive

in short, remember

help in doing something, help is a noun
help somebody to do something, help is a verb.

so, choice C is clearly violating the idiom with the noun "help"
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[/quote] """"In your example the verb is "have". Here "could" depicts a possibility. The usage is similar to the following
They could have significance. (They may have significance)
He could be the captain. (He may be the captain)

"Could have " + participle is always past-
They could have had significance.
He could have been the captain.[/quote]""""


@sayantanc2/ or any other experts wow what a clarification, wud have given 100 kudos for this if i can,

btw if you could come out with difference between be , being , could be , would be, could have been etc, that wud be wonderful, as experts like you can only come out with such a clear difference. thanks for the above insight. if possible enlighten us more. thanks

one more doubt is, in this option d ( its could have been bought ) so passive form of could have bought .. so its not past tense it is present perfect continous.. ( am i right, correct me if i am wrong)

people could have bought the car
car could have been bought by the people
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Who is not trusting themselves? Stockbrokers or many people? Many people! Eliminate A & B

(A) stockbrokers are helping many people who turn to them to buy stocks that could be easily

(B) stockbrokers are helping many people who are turning to them for help in buying stocks that they could easily have

(C) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help from them to buy stocks that could be easily - awkwardly worded

(D) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help to buy stocks that easily could have been - tense issue

(E) many people are turning to stockbrokers for help in buying stocks that could easily be - Correct
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thangvietnam wrote:
"help" as a verb can go with doing but in this case, the subject of the verb "help" is a person giving the help

I could help in studying gmat.

I could help you to learn gmat.

in this pattern, "to learn" is used but "to learn" refers to "you" but dose not refer to subject "I "

so our choice C, "they return to the stockbrokers for a help to buy" is wrong because "to buy" refers to subject of the sentence and because in the sentence "help" is a noun and "buying" must be used with a noun "help"

so, "help" as a verb can go with "to do" if " to do" refers to the agent who receive

in short, remember

help in doing something, help is a noun
help somebody to do something, help is a verb.

so, choice C is clearly violating the idiom with the noun "help"


You are absolutely right. Easier way to remember:
-I can help you to do something.
So, I am a “helper” guy
Or
-I need your help in doing something
So, I am someone who seeks a “helper”

Referring to the question we can see the same situation in which people are searching a “helper” or better say a broker. Hence correct answer must be with “help in”.

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