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Did you understand what I mean in my previous comment? Did I say anywhere that "x modifies y" or something like that? Better if you explain what I mean in my previous comment, please!

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Did you understand what I mean in my previous comment? Did I say anywhere that "x modifies y" or something like that? Better if you explain what I mean in my previous comment, please!

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How do "warm-blooded animals" report? "warm-blooded animals" are not human-being. did you notice it?


""warm-blooded animals" are not human-being" -- this statement / hypothesis is INCORRECT -- you explanation is INCORRECT

it does not matter what you mean -- what matters is the way you convey what you mean -- in proper English
Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink]
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Like Mr. X and Mr. Y, you will write in gmat club forum.
This will write is not only attributed to "you"; it (will write) is also attributed to Mr X. and Mr. Y
So, will write MUST be matched with Mr. X and Mr. Y, otherwise the sentence will be faulty construction.
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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that.........

The verb report MUST be matched with "humans and other warm-blooded animals". Do, do you think that the verb report goes with "warm-blooded animals"? Is it possible to report by "warm-blooded animals". How "warm-blooded animals" report in real life?


gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:
Asad wrote:
A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

How do "warm-blooded animals" report? "warm-blooded animals" are not human-being. did you notice it?


Could you help me to understand the meaning?
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Error in option A is of incorrect modifier and incorrect idiom --researchers need not modify human and animals
(and even if we remove animals ...researchers need not modify humans ..no matter if they have the ability to report)

Intended meaning : researchers report cites a similarity between (ability of human and animals) and (ability of lotus)
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Like Mr. X and Mr. Y, you will write in gmat club forum.
This will write is not only attributed to "you"; it (will write) is also attributed to Mr X. and Mr. Y
So, will write MUST be matched with Mr. X and Mr. Y, otherwise the sentence will be faulty construction.
The verb report MUST be matched with "humans and other warm-blooded animals". Do, do you think that the verb report goes with "warm-blooded animals"? Is it possible to report by "warm-blooded animals". How "warm-blooded animals" report in real life?



Are you saying sentence is incorrect because Animals do not possess the ability to report ?

As mentioned earlier, you approach to tackle this sentence is incorrect
Yes, Researchers modifying Human and animals is incorrect ...but not for the reason you are assuming
Like X and Y, researchers report that Z has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range. -- here also Researchers modifying X n Y is incorrect ...Intent is to compare X and Y to Z not Researchers ...not Reports .... not X's or Y's ability to report

I hope you understand the flaw in the below sentence:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
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A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
--> In this choice, the author mistakenly compare "humans and other warm-blooded animals" with "researchers". So, you can cross it this way.
--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too.


--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too. -- This is INCORRECT "way" :) but whatever floats your boat mate
Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink]
Now it is your turn to prove that how this way is not the correct way!
gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:
A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
--> In this choice, the author mistakenly compare "humans and other warm-blooded animals" with "researchers". So, you can cross it this way.
--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too.


--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too. -- This is INCORRECT "way" :) but whatever floats your boat mate


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gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:
A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
--> In this choice, the author mistakenly compare "humans and other warm-blooded animals" with "researchers". So, you can cross it this way.
--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too.


--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too. -- This is INCORRECT "way" :) but whatever floats your boat mate

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Sir, may I have your opinion here, please?
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Originally posted by TheUltimateWinner on 04 Jun 2019, 10:37.
Last edited by TheUltimateWinner on 04 Jun 2019, 11:19, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink]
gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:
Like Mr. X and Mr. Y, you will write in gmat club forum.
This will write is not only attributed to "you"; it (will write) is also attributed to Mr X. and Mr. Y
So, will write MUST be matched with Mr. X and Mr. Y, otherwise the sentence will be faulty construction.
The verb report MUST be matched with "humans and other warm-blooded animals". Do, do you think that the verb report goes with "warm-blooded animals"? Is it possible to report by "warm-blooded animals". How "warm-blooded animals" report in real life?



Are you saying sentence is incorrect because Animals do not possess the ability to report ?

As mentioned earlier, you approach to tackle this sentence is incorrect
Yes, Researchers modifying Human and animals is incorrect ...but not for the reason you are assuming
Like X and Y, researchers report that Z has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range. -- here also Researchers modifying X n Y is incorrect ...Intent is to compare X and Y to Z not Researchers ...not Reports .... not X's or Y's ability to report

I hope you understand the flaw in the below sentence:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

gmatns2018
Do you think that "Men and Women" is compared with "mice"?
Better if you shed more lights on your creative example (the highlighted one).
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I hope you understand the flaw in the below sentence:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
gmatns2018
Do you think that "Men and Women" is compared with "mice"?
Better if you shed more lights on your creative example (the highlighted one).



here Flaw implies Error -- the example sentence is based on the structure of Statement 1

** I am not sure what is happening here but does seem like an ego play from your end ...n I'm ending it here
Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink]
gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:

I hope you understand the flaw in the below sentence:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
gmatns2018
Do you think that "Men and Women" is compared with "mice"?
Better if you shed more lights on your creative example (the highlighted one).



here Flaw implies Error -- the example sentence is based on the structure of Statement 1

** I am not sure what is happening here but does seem like an ego play from your end ...n I'm ending it here

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Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range

I think, there is NO error/flaw in your creative example, but you said there is a flaw. If you really find any flaw, you should explain because members are noticing here.
According to your previous comment:
If i consider Men as X, Women as Y and mice as Z, the comparison is going be held between "x and y" and "z" (according to your comments). But, my understand says: there is no chance to compare "mice" with "men and women". Correct me please.
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I haven't read all of and am not clear about all the particulars of the foregoing discussion, but in case it will help to clear things up, I can say the following about the below sentence.

    A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

The sentence expresses a comparison, and the main implication of the comparison is that researchers are like humans and other warm-blooded animals in that researchers report, implying that the other warm-blooded animals report as well.

So, the sentence conveys a nonsensical meaning, because it implies via the comparison that non-human warm-blooded animals report about lotus. Therefore, choice (A) can be eliminated because the version created via the use of choice (A) conveys via implication the nonsensical meaning that other warm-blooded animals report about lotus.

Originally posted by MartyTargetTestPrep on 04 Jun 2019, 12:09.
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Thank you sir for your feedback. +1 for you sir :)
MartyTargetTestPrep wrote:
I haven't read all of and am not clear about all the particulars of the foregoing discussion, but in case it will help to clear things up, I can say the following about the below sentence.

    A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

The sentence expresses a comparison, and the main implication of the comparison is that researchers are like humans and other warm-blooded animals in that researchers report, implying that the other warm-blooded animals report as well.

So, the sentence conveys a nonsensical meaning, because it implies via the comparison that non-human warm-blooded animals report about lotus. Therefore, choice (A) can be eliminated because the version created via the use of choice (A) conveys via implication the nonsensical meaning that other warm blooded animals report about lotus.

Originally posted by TheUltimateWinner on 04 Jun 2019, 12:19.
Last edited by TheUltimateWinner on 04 Jun 2019, 12:33, edited 1 time in total.
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Sir,
Is there any error in the following sentence in the comparison part along with green part (apart from strike through part)?

Quote:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
B. Researchers report that within a narrow range, the lotus has the remarkable ability to keep its temperature like humans and other warm-blooded animals do.
C. Researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures to a narrow range, as humans and other warm-blooded animals can.
D. Researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability to keep its temperatures to a narrow range, as do humans and other warm-blooded animals.
E. As humans and other warm-blooded animals can, researchers report that the lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperature in a narrow range.


A and E are incorrect as it compares the capability of humans and animals to researchers.

B is incorrect as like is not to be followed by a verb.

C is incorrect for idiom use of ability of

Hence correct answer choice is D.

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Asad wrote:
Sir,
Is there any error in the following sentence in the comparison part along with green part (apart from strike through part)?

Quote:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

The green part is, of course, blatantly incorrect because the plural subject of the relative clause "mice" does not work with the singular verb of the relative clause "has."

The pink part, on the other hand, is not as blatantly incorrect. However, the meaning conveyed by the pink part doesn't really make sense, since the pink part implies that men and women are like researchers in that men and women report about mice. While that scenario is not entirely impossible, it certainly doesn't match reality.

What would make sense is that researchers report that there is some similarity between men and women and mice, yet the above sentence does not convey that meaning.
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MartyTargetTestPrep wrote:
Asad wrote:
Sir,
Is there any error in the following sentence in the comparison part along with green part (apart from strike through part)?

Quote:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

The green part is, of course, blatantly incorrect because the plural subject of the relative clause "mice" does not work with the singular verb of the relative clause "has."

The pink part, on the other hand, is not as blatantly incorrect. However, the meaning conveyed by the pink part doesn't really make sense, since the pink part implies that men and women are like researchers in that men and women report about mice. While that scenario is not entirely impossible, it certainly doesn't match reality.

What would make sense is that researchers report that there is some similarity between men and women and mice, yet the above sentence does not convey that meaning.

Thank you.

Here is an another example:
Like men and women, people report that ...........
I think, comparable things should be separate identity. In this example, we're comparing "people" with "men and women" in which "men and women" are considered as "people". So, comparing "men and women" with "people" doesn't make sense to me.

Did you notice another important thing in this SC, sir?
Here it is-->
Like men and women, researchers report that ...........
^^ The "researchers" could be under the common group of "men and women". So, do you think that "men and women" and "researchers" are two separate identity? I mean: is it reasonable to compare "researchers" with "men and women"?

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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink]
MartyTargetTestPrep wrote:
Asad wrote:
Sir,
Is there any error in the following sentence in the comparison part along with green part (apart from strike through part)?

Quote:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

The green part is, of course, blatantly incorrect because the plural subject of the relative clause "mice" does not work with the singular verb of the relative clause "has."

The pink part, on the other hand, is not as blatantly incorrect. However, the meaning conveyed by the pink part doesn't really make sense, since the pink part implies that men and women are like researchers in that men and women report about mice. While that scenario is not entirely impossible, it certainly doesn't match reality.

What would make sense is that researchers report that there is some similarity between men and women and mice, yet the above sentence does not convey that meaning.

Sir, I've a query on the highlighted part.
I think, the researchers did not report about (just) mice, directly; they report the whole clause, which starts with mice has (has must be have) the remarkable....
Here are two example:
Like teachers, students report (to he principal) that the neighbor destroyed the environment of school premise.
--> This one make sense.
Like teachers, students report (to he principal) that the dais has been stolen by the local thief.
--> This one is something like your highlighted part. In this ^^ example, "students" don't report about the "the dais"; they report about the whole clause, which is "the dais has been stolen by the local thief".
Am i missing anything, here?
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