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Hi pulkitaggi, of course present perfect + past perfect can be used together.
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Hi EducationAisle

Why I asked this question was because I came across a Question from Veritas, in which they used past perfect and present perfect together in an option and removed the option because of the use of 2 tenses together. I removed the sentence because of some other error. Can you check?
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The rare bird, considered extinct for over fifty years and actually thriving in a remote part of the Andes, has made a remarkable comeback over the past decade. ( problem in option B- though I removed that option because of the use IT- but in my opinion past perfect was used completely fine.)

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There are official questions in which these two tenses have been used together.

Since I am not aware of this question in entirety, am unable to comment on this; however, it's always a good idea to focus on official questions only, for your preparation.
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Hi EducationAisle , I recently came across these two sentences (correct sentence is the 2nd one) from an Egmat webinar:

(1) Until a strict schedule was imposed, kids had been allowed to watch television for hours at a stretch.

(2) Until a strict schedule was imposed, kids were allowed to watch television for hours at a stretch.

In the first sentence, 'had been' indicates that the action 'kids had been allowed to watch television' was completed by a specific time in the past (it was completed before the strict schedule was imposed.

Since there are two events, and the event of imposing a strict schedule is the later event, I am not sure why 'had been' is incorrect here.

Can you please help

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Prajjwal226 wrote:
Hi EducationAisle , I recently came across these two sentences (correct sentence is the 2nd one) from an Egmat webinar:

(1) Until a strict schedule was imposed, kids had been allowed to watch television for hours at a stretch.

(2) Until a strict schedule was imposed, kids were allowed to watch television for hours at a stretch.

In the first sentence, 'had been' indicates that the action 'kids had been allowed to watch television' was completed by a specific time in the past (it was completed before the strict schedule was imposed.

Since there are two events, and the event of imposing a strict schedule is the later event, I am not sure why 'had been' is incorrect here.

Can you please help

Actually I would be curious to know as well. What explanation does eGMAT provide, on this?
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Prajjwal226 wrote:
Hi , I recently came across these two sentences (correct sentence is the 2nd one) from an Egmat webinar:

(1) Until a strict schedule was imposed, kids had been allowed to watch television for hours at a stretch.

(2) Until a strict schedule was imposed, kids were allowed to watch television for hours at a stretch.

In the first sentence, 'had been' indicates that the action 'kids had been allowed to watch television' was completed by a specific time in the past (it was completed before the strict schedule was imposed.

Since there are two events, and the event of imposing a strict schedule is the later event, I am not sure why 'had been' is incorrect here.

Can you please help

Actually I would be curious to know as well. What explanation does eGMAT provide, on this?


The instructor said that it's not correct to use 'had been' in this sentence because it indicates that the kids were already not allowed to watch television for long hours when the strict schedule was imposed. So it is not logical to say that the authorities imposed a strict schedule if the kids are already not allowed to watch television for long hours.


Another example with the same analogy was provided in the webinar:

(1) Joe asked for a slice from the pizza that Amy had eaten (incorrect)

(2) Joe asked for a slice from the pizza that Amy was eating (correct)

In the example, the usage of 'had been' is clearly incorrect since it indicates that Joe asked for a slice from the pizza that had ALREADY been eaten by Amy.

However, the explanation of why 'had been' is incorrect in the first example is still not clear to me.
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It's not clear to me as well. Generally I would expect instructors to provide official examples, to support their point.

Perhaps other experts can contribute.
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