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31 Jul 2018, 22:43
It gives me great anguish to inform you that i scored a 600 (v24,q49) in gmat last weekend. I have been preparing for past 6 months with manhattan and egmat materials. My gmat prep mock scores are
Gmatprep 1- 640
Gmat prep 2- 660
Prep3- 690
Prep4-720
Prep5-690
Prep6-660

Quant score varies between 48 to 50
Verbal score varies between 28 to 36

also i am struggling with timing. I guesses two RC passages during the later part of the test because of lack of time.

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01 Aug 2018, 21:22
Hi charmingsom,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day didn't go as well as planned. When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. If you can answer a few questions, then we should be able to figure this out:

1) On what dates did you take each of these CATs?
2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
3) Did you take them at home?
4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you took your Official GMAT?
5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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03 Aug 2018, 01:00
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi charmingsom,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day didn't go as well as planned. When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. If you can answer a few questions, then we should be able to figure this out:

1) On what dates did you take each of these CATs?
2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
3) Did you take them at home?
4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you took your Official GMAT?
5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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Dear Empowergmatrichc,

1) On what dates did you take each of these CATs?
Ans- starting from 1st week of June 2018 every week i took one test

2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
Ans- yes i took the entire cat with all sections in the sequence Verbal, Quant, IR, AWA

3) Did you take them at home?
Ans- I took all tests at home

4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you took your Official GMAT?
Ans- yes, more or less the same time

5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
Ans- Same conditions as exam

6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?
Ans- All Cats are for first time, no question repetitions.

Thanks
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03 Aug 2018, 01:03
I am really surprised that when someone asks for help/suggestions related to gmat, the number of responses are very less. Whereas whenever someone posts a success story, there are tons of responses. This really is disappointing when someone is expecting ones advise and dont get many.

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03 Aug 2018, 12:21
Hi Som,

From your prior post, there were some 'red flags' in terms of how you took your CATs. Before we discuss those issues though, I have a few additional questions about the lead-up to Test Day and Test Day itself:

1) What did you do in the 3 days before your GMAT?
2) How did you sleep the night before your Test?
3) How long was the ride to the Test Center from your home?
4) Were there any distractions at the facility or during the Test?
5) What did you do during the two 8-minute breaks?
6) Did you finish any sections early?
7) Did you have to rush to finish any sections (and guess on questions just to finish on time)?

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04 Aug 2018, 00:26
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi Som,

From your prior post, there were some 'red flags' in terms of how you took your CATs. Before we discuss those issues though, I have a few additional questions about the lead-up to Test Day and Test Day itself:

1) What did you do in the 3 days before your GMAT?
2) How did you sleep the night before your Test?
3) How long was the ride to the Test Center from your home?
4) Were there any distractions at the facility or during the Test?
5) What did you do during the two 8-minute breaks?
6) Did you finish any sections early?
7) Did you have to rush to finish any sections (and guess on questions just to finish on time)?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
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Dear Empowergmatrichc,

1) What did you do in the 3 days before your GMAT?
Ans- I took one gmatprep test and for next two days i brushed up the concepts. On the 4th day prior to exam also i took a test. However after taking both the tests my mind seemed overloaded with headache.

2) How did you sleep the night before your Test?
Ans-didnt sleep well out of anxiety and tension

3) How long was the ride to the Test Center from your home?
Ans-didnt 1 hour in A/C Cab

4) Were there any distractions at the facility or during the Test?
Ans- No distractions except that the pens during the test were not working properly and i lot a minute in getting it replaced

5) What did you do during the two 8-minute breaks?
Ans- ate chocolate bars and drank redbull

6) Did you finish any sections early?
Ans- finished on time

7) Did you have to rush to finish any sections (and guess on questions just to finish on time)?
Ans- yes on verbal i had to rush

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04 Aug 2018, 02:12
charmingsom wrote:
It gives me great anguish to inform you that i scored a 600 (v24,q49) in gmat last weekend. I have been preparing for past 6 months with manhattan and egmat materials. My gmat prep mock scores are
Gmatprep 1- 640
Gmat prep 2- 660
Prep3- 690
Prep4-720
Prep5-690
Prep6-660

Quant score varies between 48 to 50
Verbal score varies between 28 to 36

also i am struggling with timing. I guesses two RC passages during the later part of the test because of lack of time.

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Hey buddy,

as you Quant score is already very good I am going to link some articles that might help with verbal in general, and some focused on RC in particular:

General:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/verbal-strat ... l#p2082192

General:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmatclub-ver ... l#p1122343

RC:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-destr ... ml#p205035

I hope some of this stuff might be helpful for you on your journey towards the 700s.

Best regards,
Chris
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A couple of things that helped me in verbal:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/verbal-strategies-268700.html#p2082192

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04 Aug 2018, 07:55
charmingsom wrote:
It gives me great anguish to inform you that i scored a 600 (v24,q49) in gmat last weekend. I have been preparing for past 6 months with manhattan and egmat materials. My gmat prep mock scores are
Gmatprep 1- 640
Gmat prep 2- 660
Prep3- 690
Prep4-720
Prep5-690
Prep6-660

Quant score varies between 48 to 50
Verbal score varies between 28 to 36

also i am struggling with timing. I guesses two RC passages during the later part of the test because of lack of time.

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Hi
Sorry to hear that your Gmat didnt go well.
Regarding the timing problem, I think the following post will help you:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/timing-strat ... 06035.html
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05 Aug 2018, 07:38
I am attaching herewith my ESR report for your analysis, review and feedback. This will help me in focusing on the areas i need to work upon for the next attempt
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05 Aug 2018, 12:48
Hi Som,

I've sent you a PM with some additional suggestions and notes on your ESR.

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07 Aug 2018, 09:06
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Hi charmingsom,

I’m sorry to hear about how things went with your GMAT. Stay strong, my friend. I’m going to do all I can to help get you on the right path.

Despite the fact that you scored as high as a V36 on practice exams, and the fact that you studied for 6 months, since you scored a V24 on your actual GMAT, you probably still lack some fundamental skills necessary for a good verbal score. In order to improve your score from a below average to awesome level (especially in verbal), you need a study plan that allows you to learn linearly, such that you can slowly build GMAT mastery of one topic prior to moving on to the next. Within each topic, begin with the foundations and progress toward more advanced concepts.

Sentence Correction, on the other hand, is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, it is likely that you will have to work on all three of those aspects, and it is also likely that the reason that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved is that you have not been working on all three of those aspects. Let's discuss each of those aspects and how you can work on them.

Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not really a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning the grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. Likely, the main reason that Sentence Correction has not "clicked" for you is that you have not put enough work into developing your skill in seeing what is going on in the various versions of the sentence that can be created with the answer choices. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even, say, ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer.

As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns in the sentence clearly refer to nouns in the sentence? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

The third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct is what you have to do. The main thing that you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices in a Sentence Correction question, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you are answering Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. For instance, are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off, and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently that would have resulted in your extending your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regiments, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, you are going to want to engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you will then want to practice with Sentence Correction questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

Ultimately, if you are unable to learn and practice in the manner described above, you may consider looking for additional verbal prep resources. If you are unsure of which resources to choose, check out some reviews here on GMAT Club.

Once again, you may need additional quant materials, so you can take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant courses.

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Hi charmingsom,

I would request you to mail us on support@e-gmat.com using your registered email id and referencing this post. Having your registered email-id will help us look at your data from Scholaranium and course dashboard which will enable us to give you a very precise plan of action. When you write to us, please do mention any other concerns that you may have with regards to your preparation and test day experience.

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