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# Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack p

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03 Sep 2012, 17:19
A has to be the answer for past tense construction throughout and more..than construction looks good
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04 Sep 2012, 00:01
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the reduced Stem : .......................more research was needed to determine that X was or was not any better ..............than............. Y

First split :

A. X.......................was or was not any better ............ than.........Y = ( WAS or WASNOT = does it makes any sense ?) = Eliminate

B. X............ ..........is any better .....................................than is.......Y = ( No need of IS , X is compared with Y, X is better THAN Y aptly conveys the intent ) = Eliminated

C. X.......................is any better ...................................than..........Y = Good , ON HOLD = passes the 1st litmus

D. X.......................was any better ................................than..........Y = Good , ON HOLD = passes the 1st litmus

E. X.......................is or is not any better ......................than is........Y = this is Crap = Eliminated

Thus we are left with C n D : 2nd Split

D. more research was needed to determine..............that X was any better ................than Y = THAT doesn't bring out the intent, Further WAS is wrong contextually

C. more research was needed to determine..............whether X is any better .............than Y = Whether n IS perfect combo

thus 1. WHETHER scores over THAT, 2. IS scores over WAS

Leading to C , my take
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04 Sep 2012, 01:41
But parallelism that is not required i think
because 'agreed that' is part of an idiom

but construction of 'C' is better.
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05 Sep 2012, 07:38
I pick C since it uses parallelism correctly and it clear and concise.
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04 Feb 2013, 00:53
... to determine that.. something is so... is to express a fact, a certainty... However, in this sentence, "more research was needed to determine WHETHER something is truly so..." Hence, the usage is WHETHER is preferred since it neither a certified fact nor established truth... Eliminate A, D and E

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

Another error in the sentence is "for determining" which is awkward.... Eliminate B and E

B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than

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11 Apr 2013, 21:44

B) parallelism error Noun - balloon than verb - is
C) But should be followed by a clause and That is a modifier
D) But should be followed by a clause and That is a modifier
E) But should be followed by a clause and That is a modifier

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28 May 2013, 22:17
mbaiseasy wrote:
... to determine that.. something is so... is to express a fact, a certainty... However, in this sentence, "more research was needed to determine WHETHER something is truly so..." Hence, the usage is WHETHER is preferred since it neither a certified fact nor established truth... Eliminate A, D and E

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

Another error in the sentence is "for determining" which is awkward.... Eliminate B and E

B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than

Hi Mbaiseasy

I have a small doubt could you please explain why is it needed for rather than needed to ?

ex : I needed to go the marriage . -- > i must go to the marriage . -- compulsory
I am needed for attending the marriage --> here it is not compulsory , probably no one can drive the car so someone needs me to drive the car for attending the marriage .

I used this logic and picked up B . Why is needed for determing wrong ?
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07 Jul 2013, 10:52
Does anybody know the difference between the usage of whether and whether or not?
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07 Jul 2013, 11:02
lucbesson wrote:
Does anybody know the difference between the usage of whether and whether or not?
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hi,

in GMAT you will not find sentences like this:
he was confused whether or not he should go.......>>>>if you encounter this just neglect that option

but yes if you get sentence like this:
I have not decided whether I should wear black or white dress tonight.====>this is correct

so whether or not is wrong....rather choose option which has only WHETHER in it...

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08 Jan 2016, 19:33
A good video on this question and comparisons in general is here:

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08 Jan 2016, 20:38
riteshbindal wrote:
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
the
balloon procedure by itself.
A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

A - was or was not - Awkward and wrong
B - better than is - wrong
C - Correct
D - that x that y , preceded with, wrong construction
E - than is - wrong.
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20 Jan 2017, 16:28
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the
balloon procedure by itself.
A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

C

- .."to determine.." > "..for determining...": down to A C or D
- that is needed at the beginning to maintain ||ism - but is a FANBOY preposition, hence that is needed: Down to C and D
- "preceded with" is not a preferred idiom: D Out, C Stays

Side Note
Use of Whether in C makes the sentence better; whether or not is considered redundant and is not preferred on GMAT.
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12 Aug 2017, 17:04
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) In A, D and E, “determine that” does not convey the intended meaning of the sentence. Since the purpose of the research is to answer a question -- which procedure is better? -- the sentence needs to say “determine whether”. Eliminate A, D and E.
In B, whether or not is an error of redundancy. Eliminate B. Moreover, The expression “for determining” is incorrect. The sentence intends to show the intention/purpose of the research and hence “to verb” should be used instead of “for verb-ing”.
Correct idioms are X is preceded by Y and Y precedes X:
The movie was preceded by a lecture.
A lecture preceded the movie.

Less common is to precede X with Y:

The author preceded the book with a dedication to his parents.

Also correct is to proceed with X:
Whereas precede means to come before, proceed means to move forward.

Furthermore strictly from grammatical stand-point, this list results in two independent clauses and hence the punctuation is not appropriate. Two independent clauses should be connected using ‘comma + but’ and not just ‘but’.
Wordy: The use of expression “was or was not” is very wordy. In this context, “whether” should be used.
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15 Aug 2017, 07:59
can we have split between "was" & "is" ?

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16 Aug 2017, 20:18
the answer requires a That after but , so A and B eliminated.

D : The use of was in describing the ultra sound procedure is incorrect, because the ultra sound procedure must be in a simple present form , it requires "is" . so D is ruled out,
E: too wordy and improper construction. use is or is not any better muddles the while sentence.

So C

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03 Sep 2017, 07:48
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than - Parallelism Error - need that , was or was not is wordy

B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is - Parallelism Error - need that , The expression “for determining” is incorrect , “whether or not” is wordy

C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than - Correct

D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than - shift in meaning - usage of determine that ; If a statement is generally true (regardless of the timeframe), then the present tense is the best way to express that idea.

E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is - The expression “for determining” is incorrect
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24 Nov 2017, 22:48
First lets see if there is any parallelism trigger such as or,but, and (its the most common seen on the GMAT)

Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but [url]more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than[/url] the balloon procedure by itself.

As we could see from the above sentence their is the "but" word.

Now we need to check the Stem of the sentence which is "Researchers agreed" .

Lets construct the sentences before the parallelism trigger and after the parallelism trigger and compare:

Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important

Researchers agreed more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than[/url] the balloon procedure by itself.

The construction as you can see above is wrong since after the parallelism trigger "but" we expect that which is not there. Hence A and B are out.

Now looking at the options D.

that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patient than

Preceded with should be Preceded by since Preceded with does not make any sense in the sentence.

Also the meaning of the sentence is changed when we use determine that.

We are left with option C and E now.

Lets check option E:
that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

To + Verb ==> talks about purpose or intent.

For + Verb-ing ==> talks about reason or "what for".

As per the question determine to is correct compare to for determining
Also the meaning of the sentence is changed when we use determine that as in option D.

Hence we are left out with Option C.

Hope the above explanation helps.

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04 Apr 2018, 00:26
option C:- would the answer be correct, if it stated "WAS any better" instead of "IS any better":-
"that more research was............that balloon angioplasty.....WAS any better....."
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