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I'm planning on rewriting the GMAT within the next 15days. I gave my first attempt on 29th December and got a 740. Now, I know that's a great score but I'm planning on rewriting for the following reasons:
- Unequal split – Q47, V44. My quant score is the 63rd percentile, whilst my total score is in the 97th percentile.
- Target Schools: Hoping to apply to top5 schools, and have a good chance at receiving aid. Hence, would like a score of 750+ balanced with a good Quant score. Indian IT engineer, Female.
- Mock Tests: 5 of my GMAC mock tests had a score of Q50. I once scored a Q49 in the GMAC Prep Tests, but that was because I couldn't complete the test in time and had 7 questions to finish in 9 minutes. I scored 750 or above in all my mocks.

I want to write it in the next 15 days because of I believe my concepts are pretty clear. If I give it a longer break, there is a higher chance of me forgetting the concepts especially because I won't be very regular with prep. I can devote approximately 2hours a day during weekdays for prep, and about 4-5hours during weekends. I think I should be able to replicate my Verbal performance, give or take a point or two, as long as I just stay in touch.
I thought I did quant pretty well, as none of the questions were very unfamiliar. Seeing a Q47 was a complete and utter shock. I have a huge fear of quant, and was/am convinced that I am bad at Math (Bad school experiences). I think I struggled with keeping my head during the exam and managing time to some extent since I had managed to get myself extremely stressed out. I also think I struggle with some of the DS questions as well and tend to get stuck with silly mistakes as well; For example: a question in the exam asked me to find the potential sum of two terms in a sequence. I manually solved it but jumped straight from the 7th term to the 9th term. I took 3minutes to identify my error before solving the question correctly.

I would really appreciate some help with the following:
- Somebody who could mentor me over the next 15days particularly with regards to my approach to Quant; mentally and quantitatively.
- Opinions on the following:
o Is writing within the next 15 days a mistake?
o Would buying an ESR help me get a better idea of where I went wrong in my exam?
Please do let me know if there is any further information I can provide? I look forward to hearing from you and would really appreciate the help.

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After reading your post, the first thing that comes to my mind: PLEASE GET THE ESR.
I think your shock after seeing the score shall be calmed once you see your accuracy and pacing
in ESR.

Hope you did not alter your selection order in mocks and exam.

Couple of additional posts you may find useful are this and this. Pay close attention
to timing and strategies in Quant mega thread.

Regarding re-attempting an exam withing 15 days , it is a very specific Q that shall reflect your ability to
learn mistakes from your ESR and improvise on them. That said, I would definitely advise you to be relaxed a day before your actual D day since
I do sense a bit of anxiety in your post. Try to see couple of good old comedy flicks a day before exam to get refreshed.

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Hi,

Thanks so much for your response.

I've edited the post to include my ESR. Please have a look at it and let me know your thoughts.
In my opinion:
- My problem solving results are super surprising. In my mocks, I struggled more with DS rather than PS. I feel like my silly mistakes and mental preparation was what let me down during the exam. I also feel time management was an issue, considering the number of questions wrong in the final set of Quant questions.
Let me know what you think.

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Sorry to have missed to congratulate you for awesome score in Verbal! :thumbup:

By the time experts chip in, my two cents are that I feel your were tired in this section. The same could be because of
either lack of food during breaks or less sleep. I simply can not believe that one sees such a
drop in Quant score (particularly PS which directly tests conceptual knowledge) because of
not recalling subject matter knowledge. It is important that you not only take mocks in
similar condition as in your actual exam, but also mimic breaks and section order in as close
manner as possible to get as realistic scores in actual GMAT as in mocks. Q50 is very much achievable
with your diligent efforts. As per my view, you must take a mock in a week's time to know the exact cause
of fatigue and committing silly mistakes.

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Samiya wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm planning on rewriting the GMAT within the next 15days. I gave my first attempt on 29th December and got a 740. Now, I know that's a great score but I'm planning on rewriting for the following reasons:
- Unequal split – Q47, V44. My quant score is the 63rd percentile, whilst my total score is in the 97th percentile.
- Target Schools: Hoping to apply to top5 schools, and have a good chance at receiving aid. Hence, would like a score of 750+ balanced with a good Quant score. Indian IT engineer, Female.
- Mock Tests: 5 of my GMAC mock tests had a score of Q50. I once scored a Q49 in the GMAC Prep Tests, but that was because I couldn't complete the test in time and had 7 questions to finish in 9 minutes. I scored 750 or above in all my mocks.

I want to write it in the next 15 days because of I believe my concepts are pretty clear. If I give it a longer break, there is a higher chance of me forgetting the concepts especially because I won't be very regular with prep. I can devote approximately 2hours a day during weekdays for prep, and about 4-5hours during weekends. I think I should be able to replicate my Verbal performance, give or take a point or two, as long as I just stay in touch.
I thought I did quant pretty well, as none of the questions were very unfamiliar. Seeing a Q47 was a complete and utter shock. I have a huge fear of quant, and was/am convinced that I am bad at Math (Bad school experiences). I think I struggled with keeping my head during the exam and managing time to some extent since I had managed to get myself extremely stressed out. I also think I struggle with some of the DS questions as well and tend to get stuck with silly mistakes as well; For example: a question in the exam asked me to find the potential sum of two terms in a sequence. I manually solved it but jumped straight from the 7th term to the 9th term. I took 3minutes to identify my error before solving the question correctly.

I would really appreciate some help with the following:
- Somebody who could mentor me over the next 15days particularly with regards to my approach to Quant; mentally and quantitatively.
- Opinions on the following:
o Is writing within the next 15 days a mistake?
o Would buying an ESR help me get a better idea of where I went wrong in my exam?
Please do let me know if there is any further information I can provide? I look forward to hearing from you and would really appreciate the help.

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Great performance in verbal. I really like the way the line indicating difficulty almost breaks through the upper border of the graph :-)

Were the questions on your GMATPrep tests "fresh"? If you had not seen or done them before, I am confident that you are capable of getting a Q50 on the actual exam as well. It is just not possible to "luck" into one Q50, let alone five. So if that's the case, I think it is a good idea to take the exam again soon.

Also, knowing that you already have 740 should really help take the pressure off during your retake. All the best!
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Thanks AjiteshArun.

The quant sections were fresh for me, so I do believe I should be capable of a Q50 in the final test. Having a backup score of 740 does help with the pressure but I hope I don't psych myself about quant this time as well. I really want to prove to myself as well that I can be decent at Math.

I think I would need some help with the timing strategies for the Quant sections. Any suggestions from you or the experts? bb, Bunuel

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The quant sections were fresh for me, so I do believe I should be capable of a Q50 in the final test. Having a backup score of 740 does help with the pressure but I hope I don't psych myself about quant this time as well. I really want to prove to myself as well that I can be decent at Math.

I think I would need some help with the timing strategies for the Quant sections. Any suggestions from you or the experts? bb, Bunuel

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Thank you Bunuel,
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Hi guys,

I'm planning on rewriting the GMAT within the next 15days. I gave my first attempt on 29th December and got a 740. Now, I know that's a great score but I'm planning on rewriting for the following reasons:
- Unequal split – Q47, V44. My quant score is the 63rd percentile, whilst my total score is in the 97th percentile.
- Target Schools: Hoping to apply to top5 schools, and have a good chance at receiving aid. Hence, would like a score of 750+ balanced with a good Quant score. Indian IT engineer, Female.
- Mock Tests: 5 of my GMAC mock tests had a score of Q50. I once scored a Q49 in the GMAC Prep Tests, but that was because I couldn't complete the test in time and had 7 questions to finish in 9 minutes. I scored 750 or above in all my mocks.

I want to write it in the next 15 days because of I believe my concepts are pretty clear. If I give it a longer break, there is a higher chance of me forgetting the concepts especially because I won't be very regular with prep. I can devote approximately 2hours a day during weekdays for prep, and about 4-5hours during weekends. I think I should be able to replicate my Verbal performance, give or take a point or two, as long as I just stay in touch.
I thought I did quant pretty well, as none of the questions were very unfamiliar. Seeing a Q47 was a complete and utter shock. I have a huge fear of quant, and was/am convinced that I am bad at Math (Bad school experiences). I think I struggled with keeping my head during the exam and managing time to some extent since I had managed to get myself extremely stressed out. I also think I struggle with some of the DS questions as well and tend to get stuck with silly mistakes as well; For example: a question in the exam asked me to find the potential sum of two terms in a sequence. I manually solved it but jumped straight from the 7th term to the 9th term. I took 3minutes to identify my error before solving the question correctly.

I would really appreciate some help with the following:
- Somebody who could mentor me over the next 15days particularly with regards to my approach to Quant; mentally and quantitatively.
- Opinions on the following:
o Is writing within the next 15 days a mistake?
o Would buying an ESR help me get a better idea of where I went wrong in my exam?
Please do let me know if there is any further information I can provide? I look forward to hearing from you and would really appreciate the help.

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No harm in taking the GMAT again if you feel your performance is likely to improve. For a top 5, I would like you to have a Q49+. But the way I see it, you took the last test just a week ago. Do you think you have made some progress since then? I see that you ran out of time in the last quarter but you need to ensure that this time around, you will manage your time better. Also, it is surprising that you have a much lower percentile in PS than in DS. Do you end up making calculation mistakes?
Re-taking the exam is not a mistake in most cases. It does make one poorer by a few hundred dollars but that is about it. You can always cancel your score and it won't appear on your score card. Though the final depends on your timeline too - would you have enough time to retake again if you end up cancelling the score you get? (say in case it is less than 740)
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Hi guys,

I'm planning on rewriting the GMAT within the next 15days. I gave my first attempt on 29th December and got a 740. Now, I know that's a great score but I'm planning on rewriting for the following reasons:
- Unequal split – Q47, V44. My quant score is the 63rd percentile, whilst my total score is in the 97th percentile.
- Target Schools: Hoping to apply to top5 schools, and have a good chance at receiving aid. Hence, would like a score of 750+ balanced with a good Quant score. Indian IT engineer, Female.
- Mock Tests: 5 of my GMAC mock tests had a score of Q50. I once scored a Q49 in the GMAC Prep Tests, but that was because I couldn't complete the test in time and had 7 questions to finish in 9 minutes. I scored 750 or above in all my mocks.

I want to write it in the next 15 days because of I believe my concepts are pretty clear. If I give it a longer break, there is a higher chance of me forgetting the concepts especially because I won't be very regular with prep. I can devote approximately 2hours a day during weekdays for prep, and about 4-5hours during weekends. I think I should be able to replicate my Verbal performance, give or take a point or two, as long as I just stay in touch.
I thought I did quant pretty well, as none of the questions were very unfamiliar. Seeing a Q47 was a complete and utter shock. I have a huge fear of quant, and was/am convinced that I am bad at Math (Bad school experiences). I think I struggled with keeping my head during the exam and managing time to some extent since I had managed to get myself extremely stressed out. I also think I struggle with some of the DS questions as well and tend to get stuck with silly mistakes as well; For example: a question in the exam asked me to find the potential sum of two terms in a sequence. I manually solved it but jumped straight from the 7th term to the 9th term. I took 3minutes to identify my error before solving the question correctly.

I would really appreciate some help with the following:
- Somebody who could mentor me over the next 15days particularly with regards to my approach to Quant; mentally and quantitatively.
- Opinions on the following:
o Is writing within the next 15 days a mistake?
o Would buying an ESR help me get a better idea of where I went wrong in my exam?
Please do let me know if there is any further information I can provide? I look forward to hearing from you and would really appreciate the help.

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No harm in taking the GMAT again if you feel your performance is likely to improve. For a top 5, I would like you to have a Q49+. But the way I see it, you took the last test just a week ago. Do you think you have made some progress since then? I see that you ran out of time in the last quarter but you need to ensure that this time around, you will manage your time better. Also, it is surprising that you have a much lower percentile in PS than in DS. Do you end up making calculation mistakes?
Re-taking the exam is not a mistake in most cases. It does make one poorer by a few hundred dollars but that is about it. You can always cancel your score and it won't appear on your score card. Though the final depends on your timeline too - would you have enough time to retake again if you end up cancelling the score you get? (say in case it is less than 740)

Hi,
I don't plan on applying at least for another year so I should enough time to retake if I really have to. Though I would really prefer to get done with this and tick the GMAT Box.

I don't think I've made any major improvements in the last ten days, conceptually at least. I think my low score was primarily due to nerves. That's because:
1. Almost all my GMAC mock tests (5/6) we're a Q50
2. In all my practice tests I always scored a higher accuracy in problem solving than data sufficiency. Also, you're more likely to make silly mistakes in actual calculations which are more common in PS questions than DS, which mostly tests the logical concepts.

I think I need help with accurate calculations and time management. Do let me know if there are any strategies you would recommend for the same. A time marker strategy would be incredibly helpful!

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Amazing improvement in such a short duration.
May be you can throw more light on introspection of your last exam and share
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That's excellent news! All the best for the rest of the process :-)
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Congrats and happy to help, Samiya ! Amazing job.

I would also love to see your V48 ESR, if you're willing to share--ESR analysis so far suggests that you may have answered only 1 counted question incorrectly!

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Hi,

Thank you so much! I was completely shocked by my Verbal because I was pretty sure I'd flunked it.
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Hi Samiya , well, seeing that you now have a stellar 780 (99%) GMAT score, there is no need for you to re-take, and thus no need for you to learn from your ESR.

However, your case is interesting to me, because I have only seen one other instance of a V48 ESR--the one from the picture above (I also scored V48 on Verbal on my first attempt in 2012, but ESRs were not available at the time). For the sake of the GMAT community's knowledge base, it would be nice to see a different example of a V48 score, to confirm that you did in fact also answer only one counted question incorrectly.

If the cost ($25) is the issue, then I've been known to offer to pay for the ESRs in similar situations in the past, and would consider "contributing to the cause" in this case as well.
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