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Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with a mixture of chants, fiddle tunes, and religions music and only gradually evolved into the blues.

A. Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with

B. Similar to that of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from oral tradition that began with

C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as

D. Like other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson’s music arose from an oral tradition beginning with

E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as


QA : E , the music of early missi delta blue singers is compared with the music of Robert Johnson , E is the best of lot , gets a parallel and with correct comparison.
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Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with a mixture of chants, fiddle tunes, and religions music and only gradually evolved into the blues.


A. Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with

B. Similar to that of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from oral tradition that began with

C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as

D. Like other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson’s music arose from an oral tradition beginning with

E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as


Comparison is between two types of music. Only E makes correct comparison.
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souvik101990 wrote:
Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with a mixture of chants, fiddle tunes, and religions music and only gradually evolved into the blues.

A. Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with

B. Similar to that of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from oral tradition that began with

C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as

D. Like other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson’s music arose from an oral tradition beginning with

E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as


Hi Egmat,

Can you please explain why is option C incorrect. I don't think that the usage of as with a prepositional phrase to show comparison is incorrect. Is it because it changes the meaning of the sentence? It says RJ made music that arose from a tradition however, the parent sentence says the music was the result of an oral tradition... Please clarify



Hi Nishat,

Thanks for posting your doubt here. :-)

The change of meaning that you are talking about in Choice C does not exist. The original sentence as well as Choice C says that the music from an oral tradition beginning. I guess you got confused because the structure of the two choices are different.

In Choice C As + prepositional phrase does not work in the context of this sentence because the main clause contains an action that needs to be compared with another action after as. This action is missing in Choice C.

Hope this helps. :-)
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I still didn't understand. Could you please elaborate??
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I have a question on the parallelism drawn in the Independent Clause [The music of Robert Johnson]. When ideas are placed in parallel both the grammar & logic need to complement each other. One cannot exist without each other. While looking at the correct answer (E), would it not have been written better if the following structure was followed:

Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as [x,y,&z], and that only gradually evolved into [k].

The inclusion of 'that' would not be wrong. I am conscious of the fact that we cannot question the sentence structure in the non-underlined part, but would like to understand why without putting the parallel elements in a that [clause] in which that is acting as the subject or the head, we can still have the two elements in parallel.

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would like to understand why without putting the parallel elements in a that [clause] in which that is acting as the subject or the head, we can still have the two elements in parallel

Hi Abheek, E is parallel: evolved is parallel with began.

.....that began....and evolved...

that is obviously the implied subject for the verb evolved.

The sentence is no different from:

I came to the office and started working.

Here, parallel elements are came and started, with I being the implied subject of the verb started.

Had the structure been:

......that began....and [i]that evolved...[/i]

Then also the sentence would have been parallel, with the parallel elements being two relative clauses: that began and that evolved.
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hi egmat egmat

In Choice C As + prepositional phrase does not work in the context of this sentence because the main clause contains an action that needs to be compared with another action after as. This action is missing in Choice C.

Could you please explain this in more details please....
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Let's tackle this question, one issue at a time, and narrow it down to the correct answer! To begin, here is the original question with any major differences between the options highlighted in orange:

Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with a mixture of chants, fiddle tunes, and religions music and only gradually evolved into the blues.

A. Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with
B. Similar to that of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from oral tradition that began with
C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as
D. Like other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson’s music arose from an oral tradition beginning with
E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as

After a quick glance over the options, there are a few key differences we can focus on:

1. How they begin: similar to / as with / like
2. What comes after the modifier: the music of Robert Johnson / Robert Johnson / Robert Johnson's music
3. How they end: beginning with / that began with / beginning as


Since we're dealing with a comparison question, the first place to start should always be parallelism! We need to make sure that the sentence is comparing 2 similar things (apples to apples, bicycles to bicycles, etc.). Let's focus on that first, and eliminate any options that don't compare similar things:

A. Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with --> WRONG (compares people to music)

B. Similar to that of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from oral tradition that began with --> WRONG (compares music to a person)

C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as --> OK (compares people to people)

D. Like other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson’s music arose from an oral tradition beginning with --> WRONG (compares people to music)

E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as --> OK (compares music to music)

We can eliminate options A, B, & D because they create a non-parallel comparison.

Now that we have it narrowed down to only 2 options, let's focus on the other two list items to narrow it down to just one option:

C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as

This is INCORRECT for a couple reasons. First, starting a noun phrase with "As with" is considered a no-no on the GMAT. The GMAT prefers you use "like" instead because it's clear and to the point. Second, the phrase "beginning as" suggests these events took place in the present tense, but we need to use verbs or phrases that are in the past tense for this to make sense. If his music eventually "evolved" at some point in the past, then it doesn't make sense to say that it "starts" in the present.

E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as

This is CORRECT! The comparison is parallel, the phrasing is clear and concise, and the meaning is clear thanks to the use of past tense verbs throughout.


There you have it - option E is the correct choice!


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Like must never be followed by a Prepositional Phrase or a Clause. But option E that happens to be correct in absence of any better option has a Prepositional Phrase after Like. I eliminated this option in the first glance on this reasoning.
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Hello Everyone!

Let's tackle this question, one issue at a time, and narrow it down to the correct answer! To begin, here is the original question with any major differences between the options highlighted in orange:

Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with a mixture of chants, fiddle tunes, and religions music and only gradually evolved into the blues.

A. Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with
B. Similar to that of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from oral tradition that began with
C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as
D. Like other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson’s music arose from an oral tradition beginning with
E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as

After a quick glance over the options, there are a few key differences we can focus on:

1. How they begin: similar to / as with / like
2. What comes after the modifier: the music of Robert Johnson / Robert Johnson / Robert Johnson's music
3. How they end: beginning with / that began with / beginning as


Since we're dealing with a comparison question, the first place to start should always be parallelism! We need to make sure that the sentence is comparing 2 similar things (apples to apples, bicycles to bicycles, etc.). Let's focus on that first, and eliminate any options that don't compare similar things:

A. Similar to other Mississippi Delta blues singers, the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition beginning with --> WRONG (compares people to music)

B. Similar to that of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from oral tradition that began with --> WRONG (compares music to a person)

C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as --> OK (compares people to people)

D. Like other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson’s music arose from an oral tradition beginning with --> WRONG (compares people to music)

E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as --> OK (compares music to music)

We can eliminate options A, B, & D because they create a non-parallel comparison.

Now that we have it narrowed down to only 2 options, let's focus on the other two list items to narrow it down to just one option:

C. As with other early Mississippi Delta blues singers, Robert Johnson made music that arose from an oral tradition beginning as

This is INCORRECT for a couple reasons. First, starting a noun phrase with "As with" is considered a no-no on the GMAT. The GMAT prefers you use "like" instead because it's clear and to the point. Second, the phrase "beginning as" suggests these events took place in the present tense, but we need to use verbs or phrases that are in the past tense for this to make sense. If his music eventually "evolved" at some point in the past, then it doesn't make sense to say that it "starts" in the present.

E. Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers , the music of Robert Johnson arose from an oral tradition that began as

This is CORRECT! The comparison is parallel, the phrasing is clear and concise, and the meaning is clear thanks to the use of past tense verbs throughout.


There you have it - option E is the correct choice!


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Like must never be followed by a Prepositional Phrase or a Clause. But option E that happens to be correct in absence of any better option has a Prepositional Phrase after Like. I eliminated this option in the first glance on this reasoning.
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Experts kindly clarify.
Like must never be followed by a Prepositional Phrase or a Clause. But option E that happens to be correct in absence of any better option has a Prepositional Phrase after Like. I eliminated this option in the first glance on this reasoning.
Let's focus on the phrase headed by like:

Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers

Here of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers is a prepositional phrase that modifies the music. Taken as one unit though, the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers is a noun phrase.

What we should watch out for is an option like this one:

Like of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers

Here like takes a prepositional phrase as its object (and not a noun). This is unlikely to be correct on the GMAT, and we should try not to mark an option that uses like this way.
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MAnkur wrote:
Experts kindly clarify.
Like must never be followed by a Prepositional Phrase or a Clause. But option E that happens to be correct in absence of any better option has a Prepositional Phrase after Like. I eliminated this option in the first glance on this reasoning.
Let's focus on the phrase headed by like:

Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers

Here of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers is a prepositional phrase that modifies the music. Taken as one unit though, the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers is a noun phrase.

What we should watch out for is an option like this one:

Like of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers

Here like takes a prepositional phrase as its object (and not a noun). This is unlikely to be correct on the GMAT, and we should try not to mark an option that uses like this way.


Hi Ajitesh
Thanks for the quick reply!
Would it be correct to say that Like can be followed by a prepositional noun phrase as in the Option E?
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Hi Ajitesh
Thanks for the quick reply!
Would it be correct to say that Like can be followed by a prepositional noun phrase as in the Option E?
We aren't really worried about whether there is a prepositional phrase somewhere after the like. :)

All we need to check is what the entire phrase after like is, as a "unit". So if we see the structure as "like X", we're interested in what the X is as a whole, and not in the individual components of X.

Like the music of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers
Like that of other early Mississippi Delta blues singers

Here I've highlighted the word that determines what the entire "X" phrase will be treated as.
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