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Since 1989, after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans, who have had to acclimate to an entirely different political system.

A.after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified German, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans

B.after the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural terms as well as those of economic assimilation, were the former East Germans

C.when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the reunified Germany's most problematic ethnic groups, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, was the former East Germans

D.when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, has been the former East Germans

E.after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in both terms of cultural and economic assimilation, have been the former East Germans

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Since 1989, after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans, who have had to acclimate to an entirely different political system.

A.after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified German, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans

B.after the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural terms as well as those of economic assimilation, were the former East Germans

C.when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the reunified Germany's most problematic ethnic groups, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, was the former East Germans

D.when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, has been the former East Germans

E.after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in both terms of cultural and economic assimilation, have been the former East Germans


one [strike]of the most problematic ethnic groups[/strike] ... WAS/WERE the former east germans
WAS is correct ... so A & B are out ..... so is E for using HAVE (plural)

now between B & D

Since 1989 .. one of the groups ... was east germans
Since 1989 .. one of the groups ... has been east germans
let's flip to see which is correct

Since 1989 ... xyz was one of the groups ..
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Since 1989 ... xyz has been one of the groups ..

HAS BEEN is correct as it indicates the ongoing situation

IMO the ans is D

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But i can't understand why 'was' is correct. If its singular shouldn't it be 'who has had' ??

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But i can't understand why 'was' is correct. If its singular shouldn't it be 'who has had' ??


which WAS are you confused about? and 'who has had' is not even in the answer choices.
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But i can't understand why 'was' is correct. If its singular shouldn't it be 'who has had' ??

because the clause--who have had to...--is used to modify "Germans" which is plural.

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Challenge is b/w C and D. IMO D.

I prefer D because it matches with the following verb - who have had to acclimate to an entirely different political system.

Since 1989,.....has been the......, who have....

one of the reunified Germany's most problematic ethnic groups
one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany

Both are correct usage.

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E - if right the explanation follows
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The OA is D.

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No one has mentioned the after/when split, so just for completeness...

Outside knowledge of history dictates that it must be "when" because the reunification was a single event in 1989, not in a previous year. Even though the GMAT does not test such knowledge, the meaning is still more clear with "when," so you've got to lean that way (checking the other splits, of course). Compare the following:

Since Tuesday, after the factory had been destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.
Since Tuesday, after the factory was destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.
Since Tuesday, when the factory was destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.

The 3rd example is most clear: the fire destroyed the factory on Tuesday, and as a result, the employees then started working at another location. With the other two examples, the fire may have happened anytime before or on Tuesday (uncertain), but the employees started working at the other facility on Tuesday.
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Nice question thanks for it ...
and thanks dimitri92 and esledge for the explanation ..

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Does that mean : "when" is always preferable whenever there is after/when split?
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No one has mentioned the after/when split, so just for completeness...

Outside knowledge of history dictates that it must be "when" because the reunification was a single event in 1989, not in a previous year. Even though the GMAT does not test such knowledge, the meaning is still more clear with "when," so you've got to lean that way (checking the other splits, of course). Compare the following:

Since Tuesday, after the factory had been destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.
Since Tuesday, after the factory was destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.
Since Tuesday, when the factory was destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.

The 3rd example is most clear: the fire destroyed the factory on Tuesday, and as a result, the employees then started working at another location. With the other two examples, the fire may have happened anytime before or on Tuesday (uncertain), but the employees started working at the other facility on Tuesday.

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Does that mean : "when" is always preferable whenever there is after/when split?
Pls comment. thanks

No, not always. It would depend on the intended/logical meaning.

Since 1776, when the Declaration of Independence was signed, Americans have commemorated the 4th of July.
Since 1776, after the Declaration of Independence was signed, Americans have commemorated the 4th of July.

Here, "when" is more accurate, as the signing was actually in 1776 and the when/after phrase modifies 1776.

When the Declaration of Independence was issued, Americans gathered annually to celebrate the 4th of July.
After the Declaration of Independence was issued, Americans gathered annually to celebrate the 4th of July.

In this one, “after” is more accurate, as the when/after phrase modifies “Americans gathered annually,” which by definition didn’t just happen at the one moment “when” the Declaration was issued.

After he lost his job, Luis decided to go to business school.
When he lost his job, Luis decided to go to business school.

Either of these would be fine. At least the order of events is the same in both, and who knows exactly when Luis made the decision—the moment he lost his job or afterwards? I wouldn't use after/when to eliminate anything on such a question--find other splits.
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great explanation esledge. D for me.

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Prax wrote:
Since 1989, after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans, who have had to acclimate to an entirely different political system.

A.after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified German, in cultural and economic assimilation terms, were the former East Germans

B.after the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural terms as well as those of economic assimilation, were the former East Germans

C.when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the reunified Germany's most problematic ethnic groups, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, was the former East Germans

D.when the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in terms of cultural and economic assimilation, has been the former East Germans

E.after the Berlin Wall had been demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in both terms of cultural and economic assimilation, have been the former East Germans


Between C and D I will choose D because the sentence starts with since....

so we should have a present tense in sentence not past.

Since 1989, ......was the former East Germans, who have had to acclimate to an entirely different political system. seems incorrect
Since 1989,......has been the former East Germans,who have had to acclimate to an entirely different political system. seems correct.
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B.after the Berlin Wall was demolished, one of the most problematic ethnic groups in the reunified Germany, in cultural terms as well as those of economic assimilation, were the former East Germans

does in cultural terms as well as those of economic assimilation change the meaning?

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same question for option E:

in both terms of cultural and economic assimilation - change in meaning?

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IMO D........

has been required and not have been

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esledge wrote:
No one has mentioned the after/when split, so just for completeness...

Outside knowledge of history dictates that it must be "when" because the reunification was a single event in 1989, not in a previous year. Even though the GMAT does not test such knowledge, the meaning is still more clear with "when," so you've got to lean that way (checking the other splits, of course). Compare the following:

Since Tuesday, after the factory had been destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.
Since Tuesday, after the factory was destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.
Since Tuesday, when the factory was destroyed by fire, the employees have been working at the facility across town.

The 3rd example is most clear: the fire destroyed the factory on Tuesday, and as a result, the employees then started working at another location. With the other two examples, the fire may have happened anytime before or on Tuesday (uncertain), but the employees started working at the other facility on Tuesday.



Hi Esledge

one of the most problematic ethnic groups is referred as Singular, but I feel it should be Plural
Kindly help us on this

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Clarifications needed : "one of the most problematic ethnic groups" - Is this singular or plural?

Why is when preferred to after? When specifically means that the wall was demolished in 1989. But how do we know that extra information. We clearly don't. Shouldn't answers with after be the right choice here?

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