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Since the 1930's aircraft manufacturers have tried to build airplanes with frictionless wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly that the air passing over them would not become turbulent.


(A) wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly

(B) wings, wings so smooth and so perfectly shaped

(C) wings that are shaped so smooth and perfect

(D) wings, shaped in such a smooth and perfect manner

(E) wings, wings having been shaped smoothly and perfectly so

Originally posted by batliwala on 19 Apr 2004, 00:52.
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Hi rrkan, tricky question, duped me too.

C is out cos - shaped so smooth and perfect (here smooth and perfect are supposed to modify shaped - ed verb - thus we need adverb and an adjective, but if you see we have both as adjectives)

Choice B it is, since "...so smooth....so perfectly shaped" i notice how adverb perfectly is modifying shaped and adjective smooth is modifying adverb perfectly and also parallelism of so x so y is maintained
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Anandnk, you are twisting my arm! :beatup

A) "shaped so smoothly..." is a dependent clause with no subject
B) correctly introduces the dependent clause with the subject "wings"
C) "smooth and perfect" are adjectives. We need adverbs "smoothly and perfectly" in order to modify verb "shaped"
D) again, the dependent clause is introduced with no subject or pronoun (ie which or that) which refers to the subject of the independent clause
E) to convey the idea of magnitude, "so" should have been placed before the adverbs which intend to modify the verb "shaped". Also, use of present perfect is unappropriate
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batliwala wrote:
7. Since the 1930's aircraft manufacturers have tried to
build airplanes with frictionless wings, shaped so
smoothly and perfectly
that the air passing over
them would not become turbulent.

(A) wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly
(B) wings, wings so smooth and so perfectly shaped
(C) wings that are shaped so smooth and perfect
(D) wings, shaped in such a smooth and perfect manner
(E) wings, wings having been shaped smoothly and
perfectly so


Dharmin,Anand

you are correct. but lets set a trend ourselves. When i was taking my GMAT, i used to attempt to explain most ,if not all, of my answers, right or wrong. let us try to promote this culture. Anand does a great job, but we want others to explain their answers too.

Here the absolute phrase starting with "shaped" needs to clearly identify what is shaped...wings are shaped OR airplanes are shaped.

Only B and E fit that criteria. It wouldnt be hard to eliminate E.

B is so much better and concise.

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I looked into this one again and I believe the reason why A is not as good as B is simply because the relative pronoun "them" at the end of the sentence does not have any clear referrent. Does it refer to "airplanes" or "wings"? The same goes for A's participial phrase form which could refer to either one of those 2 preceding nouns.

For example, you have these 2 participial phrase structures:
eg The airplane kit model in the closet, built with such perfection that it amazed the whole family, was part of his collection.

As you can see above, there is an ambiguity as to what was built with such perfection. Is it the subject of the prepositional phrase in red or is it the "airplane kit model"? Because of this ambiguity, relative pronoun "it" also have an ambiguous referrent. If the author meant that it was the closet which was built with..., then he should repeat the word closet to clear such ambiguity. By the same token, "it" should then have a clear referrent.

eg The airplane kit model in the closet, a closet built with such perfection that it amazed the whole family, was part of his collection.

You can apply this same concept to the original question
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I got my answer.
Such a silly question :wall .

In (B), "smooth" and "shaped" (adjectives) are modifying Noun (wings). So it is right.
In (C), "smooth" and "perfect" (adjectives) are modifying Verb (shaped) but we know that only Adverbs can modify Verb. So it is wrong.
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Since the 1930’s aircraft manufacturers have tried to build airplanes with frictionless wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly that the air passing over them would not become turbulent.

(A) wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly
(B) wings, wings so smooth and so perfectly shaped
(C) wings that are shaped so smooth and perfect
(D) wings, shaped in such a smooth and perfect manner
(E) wings, wings having been shaped smoothly and perfectly so


This is a complex question which has been discussed earlier also. You can search it on the forum.

The answer is B.

We need to repeat the word WINGS to clarify that it was the wings that the manufacturers were trying to smoothen and give a perfect shape to.

In A, shaped so smoothly and perfectly ends up modifying Aircraft manufacturers creating an absurd meaning.

In C, we need SMOOTHLY and PERFECTLY (Adverbs) rather than SMOOTH and PERFECT (adjectives) to modify the verb SHAPED

D has a problem similar to A

E repeats the word WINGS but is idiomatically wrong - the correct idiom is SO X THAT Y
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the clue lies in reading the full question :)

when we read the full question, we see the word "them". Now if we see them on an underlined portion we are immediately alerted and we look for the antecedent. Here the problem is reversed. We have them in the non-underlined part, so it is our job to make them point to the correct antecedent.

them can refer to any of the following -- aircraft, aircraft manufacturer's and wings.

Clearly them has to point to wings, so we add the extra wing as in B.
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Since the 1930's aircraft manufacturers have tried to
build airplanes with frictionless wings, shaped so
smoothly and perfectly
that the air passing over
them would not become turbulent.

(A) wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly
(B) wings, wings so smooth and so perfectly shaped
(C) wings that are shaped so smooth and perfect
(D) wings, shaped in such a smooth and perfect manner
(E) wings, wings having been shaped smoothly and
perfectly so


I could never infer the ans. Can some explain the reason behind the ans. Thanks


Ajit, you have this q floating around already in this forum. Try to search it and will provide you deeper insights

You see them in the part of the sentence that is not underlined right, this introduces ambiguity, what does them refer to manufacturers or wings, now B and E solves this by using a resumptive modifier.

Resumptive modifier is nothing but a modifier that is restated such that it avoids any ambiguities. No btwn B and E, perfect use of Idiom So that makes B stand alone
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Since the 1930's aircraft manufacturers have tried to build airplanes with frictionless
wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly that the air passing over them would not
become turbulent.
(A) wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly
(B) wings, wings so smooth and so perfectly shaped
(C) wings that are shaped so smooth and perfect
(D) wings, shaped in such a smooth and perfect manner
(E) wings, wings having been shaped smoothly and perfectly so

could anyone tell me if this question could appear on the real GMAT ? I doubt wether this sentence is accurate.


Got it wrong in first go!

only B & C are compelling options!
this question is checking concept of "resumptive modifiers", which demands repartition of word "wings"
Also, option C could have been right provided we had perfectly; only adverbs can modify verb (verb = shaped). perfect is adjective. Further, "shaped smoothly" would have been wrong. you can shape perfectly, but not smoothly. In B this is corrected; wings so smooth (adjective) and perfectly (adverb) shaped
. . so answer is B


Now, What are RESUMPTIVE MODIFIERS;read below

By adding modifying phrases to the end of a sentence, a writer can take the reader in new, sometimes unexpected directions. A resumptive modifier picks up a word or phrase from a sentence that seems to be finished and then adds information and takes the reader into new territory of thought. Because resumptive modifiers are, by nature, repetitive, they tend also to add a sense of rhythm to a sentence.

Example: The Swiss watchmakers' failure to capitalize on the invention of the digital timepiece was both astonishing and alarmingastonishing in that the Swiss had, since the beginnings of the industrial revolution in Europe, been among the first to capitalize on technical innovations, alarming in that a tremendous industrial potential had been lost to their chief competitors, the watchmakers of Japan.

for TWO MORE EXAMPLES of this type of question, search following questions in forum
"Yellow jackets number among the 900 or so species . . . "
"In a crowded, acquisitive world, the disapperance of lifestyles such as those once . . ."

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Since the 1930’s aircraft manufacturers have tried to build airplanes with frictionless wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly that the air passing over them would not become turbulent.

(A) wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly
(B) wings, wings so smooth and so perfectly shaped
(C) wings that are shaped so smooth and perfect
(D) wings, shaped in such a smooth and perfect manner
(E) wings, wings having been shaped smoothly and perfectly so

Hm. C is an easy elimination (shaped so smooth). I also think we can eliminate anything that describes its shaping as "smoothly". So we'll get rid of A and E. Now we're down to B and D. B has better structure. B it is.
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I think we can eliminate A and D for the reason that it's not clear whether the ...shaped refers to the airplane or the wings :o
That should refer to something singular, so C is out.
E sounds verbose.
B it is.



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Since the 1930’s aircraft manufacturers have tried to build airplanes with frictionless wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly that the air passing over them would not become turbulent.

(A) wings, shaped so smoothly and perfectly
(B) wings, wings so smooth and so perfectly shaped
(C) wings that are shaped so smooth and perfect
(D) wings, shaped in such a smooth and perfect manner
(E) wings, wings having been shaped smoothly and perfectly so

Hm. C is an easy elimination (shaped so smooth). I also think we can eliminate anything that describes its shaping as "smoothly". So we'll get rid of A and E. Now we're down to B and D. B has better structure. B it is.
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Why is "C" an easy elimination. I did not understand
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Not sure why A is wrong. Unless comma has a different meaning..

Per my analysis shaped is a verb playing the modifier role and -ed modifier always modifies the closest noun - which is wings.

Smoothly and Perfectly are adverbs intended for shaped and also the idiom so and that are considered.

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Not sure why A is wrong. Unless comma has a different meaning..

Per my analysis shaped is a verb playing the modifier role and -ed modifier always modifies the closest noun - which is wings.

Smoothly and Perfectly are adverbs intended for shaped and also the idiom so and that are considered.

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A is wrong because there is a dangling modifier which does not clearly state whether the aircraft is smooth and perfectly shaped or the wings.

if you want to modify the noun 'wings' , you will need to place a 'which' (non essential modifiers) after the comma.
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hi lostthepie,
Can you please explain why ed modifer can't modify the near by noun wings and only which can perform that?
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hi lostthepie,
Can you please explain why ed modifer can't modify the near by noun wings and only which can perform that?



My 2 cents....

verb ed can modify nouns for sure. but if you notice carefully, here noun is "airplanes" "with....wings" is a prepositional phrase modifying "airplanes". Thus it creates an ambiguity as to what exactly verb ed is modifying

use of "that" will make the modifier an essential one, thus it will carefully modify the entire noun phrase "airplane .... wings" and not just airplanes or wings

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So use of that and which is correct if we want to modify a noun with prepostional phrases and ver-ed modifier doesnt have this flexiblity ?am i right?
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So use of that and which is correct if we want to modify a noun with prepostional phrases and ver-ed modifier doesnt have this flexiblity ?am i right?


That is correct.

Follow the links below, very helpful in clearing the doubts in discussion here. It is better to understand the concept clearly than simply remember grammar rules

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verb-ed-modifiers-vs-verb-ing-modifiers-125611.html

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+1 kudos mate for sharing the link.

But if you see those posts we see that verb-ed modifier is also a noun modifier for sure.SO all noun modifiers can modify the far away noun.So verb-ed modifiers can also modify far away noun i guess..please correct me if am wrong
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