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The first passage can be interpreted as "there was a union during the war, but it fell apart immediately after" while the second passage is saying there never was a union, before or after the war. They're both agreeing that there was no union and no advancement after WWII.

I see what you're saying and it does look like a viable option, but I'm sticking with C on this one.
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I forgot to highlight the relevant parts for this question. I was only used to highlighting SC. This one is special. :-D


aaah. I was wondering whether something was missing. I'm still sticking with C however.

A. passage doesn't talk about any contribution to the war effort at all.
B. it's not talking about issues the members consider important, just the relationship between African Americans and the unions.
C. the historians say there was a relationship during the war, the scholars say there never was. this is the disagreement
D. doesn't say anything about the influence of unions in the workplace
E. while the disagree about any relationship during the war, both historians and scholars seem to agree that African Americans were no better off following the war
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Some historians contend that conditions
in the United States during the
Second World War gave rise to a
Line dynamic wartime alliance between
(5) trade unions and the African American
community, an alliance that advanced
the cause of civil rights. They conclude
that the postwar demise of this
vital alliance constituted a lost oppor-
(10) tunity for the civil rights movement that
followed the war. Other scholars,
however, have portrayed organized
labor as defending all along the relatively
privileged position of White
(15) workers relative to African American
workers. Clearly, these two perspectives
are not easily reconcilable, but
the historical reality is not reducible
to one or the other.

(20) Unions faced a choice between
either maintaining the prewar status
quo or promoting a more inclusive
approach that sought for all members
the right to participate in the internal
(25) affairs of unions, access to skilled
and high-paying positions within the
occupational hierarchy, and protection
against management’s arbitrary
authority in the workplace. While
(30) union representatives often voiced
this inclusive ideal, in practice unions
far more often favored entrenched
interests. The accelerating development
of the civil rights movement
(35) following the Second World War
exacerbated the unions’ dilemma,
forcing trade unionists to confront
contradictions in their own practices.



The "unions' dilemma" (underlined 2nd para) mentioned in the text can best be described as the question of whether or not to

A). pressure management to create more skilled and high-paying positions
B). fight for greater union participation in management decisions
C). include minority workers in their membership
D). extend full rights and benefits to all their members
E). emphasize the recruitment of new members over the serving needs of the current members

Can someone explain which is the correct answer and why the rest are wrong? Thanks!
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Some historians contend that conditions
in the United States during the
Second World War gave rise to a
dynamic wartime alliance between
(5) trade unions and the African American
community, an alliance that advanced
the cause of civil rights. They conclude
that the postwar demise of this
vital alliance constituted a lost oppor-
(10) tunity for the civil rights movement that
followed the war. Other scholars,
however, have portrayed organized
labor as defending all along the relatively
privileged position of White
(15) workers relative to African American
workers. Clearly, these two perspectives
are not easily reconcilable, but
the historical reality is not reducible
to one or the other.
(20) Unions faced a choice between
either maintaining the prewar status
quo or promoting a more inclusive

approach that sought for all members
the right to participate in the internal
(25) affairs of unions, access to skilled
and high-paying positions within the
occupational hierarchy, and protection
against management’s arbitrary
authority in the workplace. While
(30) union representatives often voiced
this inclusive ideal, in practice unions
far more often favored entrenched
interests. The accelerating development
of the civil rights movement
(35) following the Second World War
exacerbated the unions’ dilemma,
forcing trade unionists to confront
contradictions in their own practices.
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Q7:
According to the passage, the historians mentioned in line 1 and the scholars mentioned
in line 11 disagree about the
A. contribution made by organized labor to the war effort during the Second World
War
B. issues that union members considered most important during the Second World
War
C. relationship between unions and African Americans during the Second World
War
D. effect of the Second World War on the influence of unions in the workplace
E. extent to which African Americans benefited from social and political changes
following the Second World War

Some historians: Alliance between Trade Unions and African Americans /Civil rights during WW2
Others:Organised labor was used to promote the White Labourers rights during WW2.
Conclusion of para 1: Unions had to make a choice

A. contribution made by organized labor to the war effort during the Second World
War
>>>address only the statement made by "others"
B. issues that union members considered most important during the Second World
War
>>>OOS
C. relationship between unions and African Americans during the Second World
War
>>>>>>address only the statement made by "Some historians"
D. effect of the Second World War on the influence of unions in the workplace
>>>discusses the Unions in general

E. extent to which African Americans benefited from social and political changes
following the Second World War
>>>>>>>>>address only the statement made by "Some historians"

Originally posted by goalsnr on 29 Jun 2008, 10:13.
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1. b
a. contradicts the fact
b. answer
c. no reference in para
d.similar to the copy point...but doesn't talk abt difficulty
e.point is about setting a new standard of service, not on par

2.e
a. not an exceptional case.
b. doesn't mention abt urgency of investment in other areas
c. no analysis info is mentioned
d. it does the reverse.
e. answer

3.b
a.it's not odd.
b.answer
c.no reference to the attribute types.
d.no..the merit is singled out from the demerits.
e.no time discussion mentioned
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To attack a passage, one can use help from using Headline Highlights.

P1: Hist: US condition in WW2 led to alliance (UNION + Af-Am comm.)
Alliance disappeared - bad to civil right movement
Sch: UNION is pro white all along

P2: UNION has 2 choices: stay same or inclusion ideal
UNION rep say inclusion ideal but practices the other
Movement after WWII forced union to straight out dilemma

Disagreement lies on whether UNION helps AF-AM community or the White

Answer choices:
A) contribution to WWII not mentioned
B) most important issues? Not mentioned nor argued upon
D) effect of WWII, the passage is about UNION
E) changes after WWII and its effect on Af-am community... Not disputed...

Is the union helping Af am or not? C is the closest...
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The reasoning behind the answer being C is as follows:

1) Based on lines 1-11, the historians mentioned in line 1 believe that during WW2, the trade unions had a great relationship with the African-American community.
2) Based on lines 11-16, the scholars mentioned in line 11 instead believe that the trade unions never had a good relationship with African-Americans, and instead chose to stymie their movement toward equal rights even during WW2.
1+2 = 3) Therefore, the historians in line 1 and the scholars in line 11 are at odds regarding the relationship between trade unions and African-Americans during the course of WW2.

Within the passage, there is no mention of the opinion of either of these groups about the effect of WW2 on the civil rights movement. Instead, we only have the author's opinion. That is why D isn't the answer.

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According to the passage, the historians mentioned in the first highlighted portion of text and the scholars mentioned in the second highlighted portion disagree about the

The historians and scholars disagree about the contribution made by unions to civil rights movement.

(A) contributions to war effort... Is not the issue...

(B) most important to both... We don't know...

(C) unions formed alliance with afr. Americans while scholars believed this as not the case...

(D) effect of war on workplace ... Not mentioned...

(E) post war is not what they disagree about but during war conditions...

Answer: C
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I need to understand why is A not the right answer is it not talking about perspectives
The passage mentions viewpoints so why is A wrong

then in that case how do we really read the primary puporse


Some historians contend that conditions in the
United States during the Second World War gave rise
to a dynamic wartime alliance between trade unions
and the African American community, an alliance that
advanced the cause of civil rights. They conclude that
the postwar demise of this vital alliance constituted a
lost opportunity for the civil rights movement that
followed the war. Other scholars, however, have
portrayed organized labor as defending all along the
relatively privileged position of White workers relative
to African American workers. Clearly, these two
perspectives are not easily reconcilable, but the
historical reality is not reducible to one or the other.
Unions faced a choice between either maintaining the
prewar status quo or promoting a more inclusive
approach that sought for all members the right to
participate in the internal affairs of unions, access to
skilled and high-paying positions within the
occupational hierarchy, and protection against
management's arbitrary authority in the workplace.
While union representatives often voiced this inclusive
ideal, in practice unions far more often favored
entrenched interests. The accelerating development
of the civil rights movement following the Second
World War exacerbated the unions' dilemma, forcing
trade unionists to confront contradictions in their own
practices.

The passage is primarily concerned with
(A) providing a context within which to evaluate
opposing viewpoints about a historical
phenomenon
(B) identifying a flawed assumption underlying one
interpretation of a historical phenomenon
(C) assessing the merits and weaknesses of a
controversial theory about a historical
phenomenon
(D) discussing the historical importance of the
development of a wartime alliance
(E) evaluating evidence used to support a particular
interpretation of a historical phenomenon

The author stated two opposing views by historians and scholars. He mentioned that it is not the first nor is the second view correct. Then he presented a his view. The author is more on identifying the flaw rather than evaluating the two views. This makes A wrong.

C is wrong because he gave no merit to the two views in the first paragraph.

D is wrong because this is not about the importance of war alliance.

E. there are no evidence for the two opposing views. The author presented his argument instead.

Answer to me is B. what's the OA? I think it's b because the assumption is that the historians or the scholar is right, at least one of them or their views are reconcilable which according the the author is not the case.
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Can someone explain question 2?

2. According to the passage, the historians (at the beginning) and the scholars (highlight) disagree about the
A. contribution made by organized labor to the war effort during the Second World War
passage did not mention anything about contribution
B. issues that union members considered most important during the Second World War
nothing said about issues either
C. relationship between unions and African Americans during the Second World War
Yes. Histories contend: African Americans should make alliance with trade unions. Scholars concider organized labor as defending all along the relatively privileged position of White workers relative to African American workers. Obviously, Scholars don't want an alliance between AA and trade unions.
D. effect of the Second World War on the influence of unions in the workplace
the historians did not disagree on that
E. extent to which African Americans benefited from social and political changes following the Second World War
Nowhere in the passage it states that AA benefited from social and political changes following the Second World War
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To answer a first question, let's fist find the Conclusion of the passage: Clearly, these two perspectives are not easily reconcilable, but the historical reality is not reducible to one or the other.

Two perspectives = opposing viewpoints. The fist paragraph gives information about two opposing theories. The second paragraph provides evidences about the challenges that trade unions faced after WWII.

1. The passage is primarily concerned with

A. providing a context within which to evaluate opposing viewpoints about a historical phenomenon
I would not say it is the best answer, rather it is the closest one. The passage talks about two opposing theorie and provides evidences to evaluate them.
B. identifying a flawed assumption underlying one interpretation of a historical phenomenon
There are two distinct theories, not a historical phenomenon.
C. assessing the merits and weaknesses of a controversial theory about a historical phenomenon
The passage merely says that the theories were contradictory, without assessing of their merits and weaknesses
D. discussing the historical importance of the development of a wartime alliance
The war alliance between U.S., Britain, France, USSR was important, but it is not mentioned in the passage
E. evaluating evidence used to support a particular interpretation of a historical phenomenon
There were two distinct theories, not a historical phenomenon.
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1. The passage is primarily concerned with
A. providing a context within which to evaluate opposing viewpoints about a historical phenomenon
B. identifying a flawed assumption underlying one interpretation of a historical phenomenon
C. assessing the merits and weaknesses of a controversial theory about a historical phenomenon
D. discussing the historical importance of the development of a wartime alliance
E. evaluating evidence used to support a particular interpretation of a historical phenomenon

Can someone please explain why D is NOT the answer. I can see why A is the answer but I can not see why D is not the answer. The passage does talk about a wartime alliance between Trade unions and African american community and discusses in the first paragraph 2 views that relate to its importance to the civil rights movement. I can see how A is a better answer but am trying to find strong reasons to reject D.
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Unions faced a choice between either maintaining the prewar status quo or promoting a more inclusive approach that sought for all members the right to participate in the internal affairs of unions, access to skilled and high-paying positions within the occupational hierarchy, and protection against management's arbitrary authority in the workplace.

5. The "unions' dilemma" (highlight) mentioned in the highlighted text can best be described as the question of whether or not to

B. fight for greater union participation in management decisions

D. extend full rights and benefits to all their members

HI GMATNinja, mikemcgarry, RonPurewal, DmitryFarber, MagooshExpert (Carolyn), ccooley, GMATGuruNY

In the above question protection against management's arbitrary authority in the workplace doesn't mean B?
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Unions faced a choice between either maintaining the prewar status quo or promoting a more inclusive approach that sought for all members the right to participate in the internal affairs of unions, access to skilled and high-paying positions within the occupational hierarchy, and protection against management's arbitrary authority in the workplace.

5. The "unions' dilemma" (highlight) mentioned in the highlighted text can best be described as the question of whether or not to

B. fight for greater union participation in management decisions

D. extend full rights and benefits to all their members

HI GMATNinja, mikemcgarry, RonPurewal, DmitryFarber, MagooshExpert (Carolyn), ccooley, GMATGuruNY

In the above question protection against management's arbitrary authority in the workplace doesn't mean B?
No , that is one of the benefits which the members of the union receive.

Dilemma is "Unions faced a choice between either maintaining the prewar status quo or promoting a more inclusive approach that sought for all members"

Benefits which members of the union receive are "the right to participate in the internal affairs of unions, access to skilled and high-paying positions within the occupational hierarchy, and protection against management's arbitrary authority in the workplace."
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Some historians contend that conditions
in the United States during the
Second World War gave rise to a
Line dynamic wartime alliance between
(5) trade unions and the African American
community, an alliance that advanced
the cause of civil rights. They conclude
that the postwar demise of this
vital alliance constituted a lost oppor-
(10) tunity for the civil rights movement that
followed the war. Other scholars,
however, have portrayed organized
labor as defending all along the relatively
privileged position of White
(15) workers relative to African American
workers. Clearly, these two perspectives
are not easily reconcilable, but
the historical reality is not reducible
to one or the other.

(20) Unions faced a choice between
either maintaining the prewar status
quo or promoting a more inclusive
approach that sought for all members
the right to participate in the internal
(25) affairs of unions, access to skilled
and high-paying positions within the
occupational hierarchy, and protection
against management’s arbitrary
authority in the workplace. While
(30) union representatives often voiced
this inclusive ideal, in practice unions
far more often favored entrenched
interests. The accelerating development
of the civil rights movement
(35) following the Second World War
exacerbated the unions’ dilemma,
forcing trade unionists to confront
contradictions in their own practices.



The "unions' dilemma" (underlined 2nd para) mentioned in the text can best be described as the question of whether or not to

A). pressure management to create more skilled and high-paying positions
B). fight for greater union participation in management decisions
C). include minority workers in their membership
D). extend full rights and benefits to all their members
E). emphasize the recruitment of new members over the serving needs of the current members

Can someone explain which is the correct answer and why the rest are wrong? Thanks!

Ques 5. The "unions' dilemma" (underlined 2nd para) mentioned in the text can best be described as the question of whether or not to

A). pressure management to create more skilled and high-paying positions
B). fight for greater union participation in management decisions
C). include minority workers in their membership
D). extend full rights and benefits to all their members (2nd para third line)
E). emphasize the recruitment of new members over the serving needs of the current members

[The red highlighted words are not mentioned or talked about in the para, hence eliminated]

Let me know if you need any further explanation :)
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Gmat Ninja and other experts, can you please explain Q2?

HI Xolmuhammad,

Please refer this answer here:
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Let me know if you still have doubts.

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