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correct idiom usage is X is expected to Y

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Hi guys,

IMO B

(A) it might have been expected for it to rise a little confussing, what doesvthe first it refer to?
(B) it might have been expected to rise Hold
(C) it might have been expected that it should rise for me wordy, the first it and second it don't have a clear reference
(D) its rise might have been expected pasive voice is not needed
(E) there might have been an expectation it would rise wordy

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OG-11, SC Q#32, Page#675
The Commerce Department announced that the economy grew during the second quarter at a 7.5
percent annual rate, while inflation eased when it might have been expected for it to rise.
(A) it might have been expected for it to rise
(B) it might have been expected to rise
(C) it might have been expected that it should rise
(D) its rise might have been expected
(E) there might have been an expectation it would rise

I have a question regarding an incorrect answer(Ans choice-D), rather than the correct one (Ans choice-B)

Regarding the explaination of (D) on page 675, OG-11 mentions that 'its rise' should be parallel to 'inflation'. Why is it so? Is the word 'when' a parallel marker?
I will appreciate any clarification....
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I have a question regarding an incorrect answer(Ans choice-D), rather than the correct one (Ans choice-B)

Regarding the explaination of (D) on page 675, OG-11 mentions that 'its rise' should be parallel to 'inflation'. Why is it so? Is the word 'when' a parallel marker?
I will appreciate any clarification....


What the OG implies is that "inflation = it" rather than "inflation = its rise"
It does not matter that there there is a "when" what matters is that "inflation" is properly compared with another noun (or pronoun in subject form).



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The Commerce Department announced that the economy grew during the second quarter at a 7.5 percent annual rate, while inflation eased when it might have been expected for it to rise.

(A) it might have been expected for it to rise
(B) it might have been expected to rise
(C) it might have been expected that it should rise
(D) its rise might have been expected
(E) there might have been an expectation it would rise

The OA/OE beats me


(A) it might have been expected for it to rise==>2 times use of IT makes it redundant.
(B) it might have been expected to rise==>this one CORRECT
(C) it might have been expected that it should rise===>REDUNDANT AND WORDY
(D) its rise might have been expected==>its not parallel...as we are talking about INFLATION so it's most logically parallel to continue the sentence in a manner that continues to address 'inflation' itself (or the equivalent pronoun 'it')==>this choice unnecessarily switches the subject to 'its rise', creating a nonparallel construction
(E) there might have been an expectation it ==> ==>no reference for THERE///WORDY AND REDUNDANT.
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The Commerce Department announced that the economy grew during the second quarter at a 7.5 percent annual rate, while inflation eased when it might have been expected for it to rise.

A. it might have been expected for it to rise

B. it might have been expected to rise

C. it might have been expected that it should rise

D. its rise might have been expected

E. there might have been an expectation it would rise


Following Stacey Koprince's advice(More about Stacey's advice https://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/index ... e-problem/ ) , I tried to analyze the above mentioned problem. However I was not able to answer following questions.

1> What type of problem is it ? (example: S-V agreement, Parallelism, Comparison etc.)

2> What is the most efficient approach to solve it ?

3> How to recognize similar problems in future ?


Kindly help me to decode this problem. Well the OA to above problem is B

Originally posted by hrbiswal on 23 Feb 2014, 22:46.
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The Commerce Department announced that the economy grew during the second quarter at a 7.5 percent annual rate, while inflation eased when it might have been expected for it to rise.

A. it might have been expected for it to rise

B. it might have been expected to rise

C. it might have been expected that it should rise

D. its rise might have been expected

E. there might have been an expectation it would rise


Following Stacey Koprince's advice(More about Stacey's advice https://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/index ... e-problem/ ) , I tried to analyze the above mentioned problem. However I was not able to answer following questions.

1> What type of problem is it ? (example: S-V agreement, Parallelism, Comparison etc.)

2> What is the most efficient approach to solve it ?

3> How to recognize similar problems in future ?


Kindly help me to decode this problem. Well the OA to above problem is B


This is a SC with with mixed considerations:
1. Conditional: the conjunction while indicates reverse result of the commerce department's announcement. Thus here might have/would have required to express negative thought and been is for passive form of the sentence.

2. Infinitive: there are some verb which are followed by infinitive such as, agree, appear, arrange, choose, expect...........

Answer is B.
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This problem can be categorized under the heading of parallelism. Although the parallelism is subtle."While" indicates comparison. On the left hand side of while we have "eased" which is a verb . Hence there has to be a verb on the right hand side too. Moreover expected to do something is the correct idiom. Hence combining the two rules we are left with just two answers "A" and "B".In"A" the second "it" is ambiguous. So we are left with "B" as the right answer. "D" is ruled out because "rise" is a noun in that answer choice.
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The Commerce Department announced that the economy grew during the second quarter at a 7.5 percent annual rate, while inflation eased when it might have been expected for it to rise.

A. it might have been expected for it to rise

B. it might have been expected to rise

C. it might have been expected that it should rise

D. its rise might have been expected

E. there might have been an expectation it would rise
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The Commerce Department announced that the economy grew during the second quarter at a 7.5 percent annual rate, while inflation eased when it might have been expected for it to rise.

(A) it might have been expected for it to rise Expected to is correct idiom
(B) it might have been expected to rise
(C) it might have been expected that it should riseExpected to is correct idiom
(D) its rise might have been expected Passive Voice
(E) there might have been an expectation it would riseExpected to is correct idiom
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The first clue to look at here is the idiom ‘… expected to…’

We can knock out two options based on this.

(A) it might have been expected for it to rise

(B) it might have been expected to rise

(C) it might have been expected that it should rise

Eliminate Options A and C.

In Options D and E, we see a parallelism issue. We must have a verb that parallels with ‘eased’. This is not the case with these two options.

(D) its rise might have been expected

(E) there might have been an expectation it would rise

Eliminate Options D and E.

Option B is the best choice.

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The first clue to look at here is the idiom ‘… expected to…’

We can knock out two options based on this.

(A) it might have been expected for it to rise

(B) it might have been expected to rise

(C) it might have been expected that it should rise

Eliminate Options A and C.

In Options D and E, we see a parallelism issue. We must have a verb that parallels with ‘eased’. This is not the case with these two options.

(D) its rise might have been expected

(E) there might have been an expectation it would rise

Eliminate Options D and E.

Option B is the best choice.

Hope this helps!


I have a doubt here regarrding the non-underlined part...why is it using simple past after the reported speech rather than past perfect as economy already grew .

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How is option D passive and not option B, both of the options have "have been" as a verb, while I understand that there is a change in subject in the two options(Inflation for B and Inflation's rise for D). I don't understand how D is passive and B is active
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is the "have been" usage correct here?

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"had been" usage should be better here since the event of expectation is already over in the past.
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I am unable to select one option between B and D. The difference is to rise vs rise. Is the reason that D is not preferred because it is noun form[VAN concision rule]? Is yes, however, in this sentence noun form is short 1 word instead of 2[to rise].
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I am unable to select one option between B and D. The difference is to rise vs rise. Is the reason that D is not preferred because it is noun form[VAN concision rule]? Is yes, however, in this sentence noun form is short 1 word instead of 2[to rise].

Hi waytowharton,

Its rise is awkward and opens the sentence up to other interpretations.

1. However, the most direct reason not to opt for that phrase may be that inflation itself means ~"a sustained increase in (usually) prices", so going with inflation's rise really is unnecessary and just makes the sentence harder to understand.

2. Keep in mind though, that a rise in inflation can be used to refer to higher levels of inflation ("The central bank expected a rise in inflation"), but that phrase is very different from inflation's rise. In other words, while we can say "The central bank expected a rise in inflation", we can't say "The central bank expected inflation's rise".
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The first clue to look at here is the idiom ‘… expected to…’

We can knock out two options based on this.

(A) it might have been expected for it to rise

(B) it might have been expected to rise

(C) it might have been expected that it should rise

Eliminate Options A and C.

In Options D and E, we see a parallelism issue. We must have a verb that parallels with ‘eased’. This is not the case with these two options.

(D) its rise might have been expected

(E) there might have been an expectation it would rise

Eliminate Options D and E.

Option B is the best choice.

Hope this helps!



Hey can you tell me what are the words in red called in English part of speech.

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