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The constellation that includes the North Star has been know [#permalink]
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The constellation that includes the North Star has been known by many names among different cultures, called “The Bear” in ancient Greece, “The Drinking Gourd” in parts of Africa, and “Star Girl and Her Seven Sky Brothers” among the Cheyenne people of North America.
(A) among different cultures, called (B) among different cultures; it was called (C) in different cultures, being called (D) in different cultures; including the title (E) in different cultures; it was called
I feel that OA- E is changing the meaning a little. original " ... has been known by many names... -The Drinking Gourd- in parts of Africa". There is no indication that it is not known by the name now in those parts of Africa.
So I chose, C. Even if wordy, it maintains the meaning of "has been"... thoughts?
The constellation that includes the North Star has been known by many names among different cultures, called “The Bear” in ancient Greece, “The Drinking Gourd” in parts of Africa, and “Star Girl and Her Seven Sky Brothers” among the Cheyenne people of North America.
* among different cultures, called * among different cultures; it was called * in different cultures, being called * in different cultures; including the title * in different cultures; it was called
I feel that OA- E is changing the meaning a little. original " ... has been known by many names... -The Drinking Gourd- in parts of Africa". There is no indication that it is not known by the name now in those parts of Africa.
So I chose, C. Even if wordy, it maintains the meaning of "has been"... thoughts?
to me, it seems as though, in C, "being called" could be referring to different cultures not the constellation
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The constellation that includes the North Star has been known by many names among different cultures, called “The Bear” in ancient Greece, “The Drinking Gourd” in parts of Africa, and “Star Girl and Her Seven Sky Brothers” among the Cheyenne people of North America
among different cultures, called among different cultures; it was called in different cultures, being called in different cultures; including the title in different cultures; it was called
Spoiler: Doubt In the question, "it" in choice E is ambigious whether it refers to Constellation or North Star, how to decide in such circumstances.
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It is in the subject position of the "first" clause and unambiguously refer to "constellation"
Jim is working harder than Jack, as he wants the scholarship. ----> He (in subject position of first clause) is not ambiguous. It refers to Jim not Jack.
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It is in the subject position of the "first" clause and unambiguously refer to "constellation"
Jim is working harder than Jack, as he wants the scholarship. ----> He (in subject position of first clause) is not ambiguous. It refers to Jim not Jack.
So u mean to say if in a sentence, "if" correctly refers to the subject of a sentence, then its fine, so if in the below sentence it was
In the 1980's the rate of increase of the minority population of the US was nearly as fast as it was in the 1970's
Based on this one can understand that IT refers to rate of increase, but even minority population is also a noun, yet it is not the primary subject hence IT does not refer to minority population.
If a pronoun such as IT in the subordinate clause, has 2 antecendents i.e. 2 nouns such as
Fishing is a sport and knitting is an art, hence john loves it. here it is ambigious as to whether it refers to Fishing or Knitting.
Am i correct in understanding this concept, pls explain.
In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.
(A) twice as fast as (B) twice as fast as it was in (C) twice what it was in (D) two times faster than that of (E) two times greater than
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I do not understand y are we using "was called" in choice E???
The constellation has been known by many names...[so, why the change?]; it was called... I would also want to know the reason for the change in tense from "has been" to "was called"
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Bluerobbin I see. I need kudos for explaining this one !
Jim is working harder than Jack, as he wants the scholarship. ----> He (in subject position of first clause) is not ambiguous. It refers to Jim not Jack.
I can break the above sentence into 2 clause Jim is working harder than Jack. He wants the scholarship.
Now this will hint that this sentence is different. Do you have more than one clauses??
In the 1980's the rate of increase of the minority population of the US was nearly as fast as it was in the 1970's >>>> "it" is correct as it is comparing the "rate of increase"
2 mistakes in this sentence - 1. "as fast as" is redundant since you are using "increase" - rate of increase 2. Use DOUBLE,TRIPLE as verbs and TWICE ,THRICE for comparisons
Fishing is a sport and knitting is an art, hence john loves it. here it is ambigious as to whether it refers to Fishing or Knitting. >> Right on ! "it" is ambiguous. Break the sentence into three parts
Fishing is a sport knitting is an art John loves it ----> "it" (in the object position of clause 3) can refer to sport or to art. Hence ambiguous!
In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s. (A) twice as fast as (B) twice as fast as it was in (C) twice what it was in (D) two times faster than that of (E) two times greater than IMO : C In your example if you say "it" is referring to minority population then you are forgetting the preposition "of" e.g Men of Rome that fought bravely that refers to "Men" which is a noun before the preposition.
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nusmavrik wrote:
It is in the subject position of the "first" clause and unambiguously refer to "constellation"
Jim is working harder than Jack, as he wants the scholarship. ----> He (in subject position of first clause) is not ambiguous. It refers to Jim not Jack.
So u mean to say if in a sentence, "if" correctly refers to the subject of a sentence, then its fine, so if in the below sentence it was
In the 1980's the rate of increase of the minority population of the US was nearly as fast as it was in the 1970's
Based on this one can understand that IT refers to rate of increase, but even minority population is also a noun, yet it is not the primary subject hence IT does not refer to minority population.
If a pronoun such as IT in the subordinate clause, has 2 antecendents i.e. 2 nouns such as
Fishing is a sport and knitting is an art, hence john loves it. here it is ambigious as to whether it refers to Fishing or Knitting.
Am i correct in understanding this concept, pls explain.
In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.
(A) twice as fast as (B) twice as fast as it was in (C) twice what it was in (D) two times faster than that of (E) two times greater than
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Thanks nusmavrik. Can you explain the implications of a preposition- as you mention >> if you say "it" is referring to minority population then you are forgetting the preposition "of"
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The results of the recognition of the importance of oral rehydration therapy [is/are] very encouraging to WHO ------> subject is "results". Hence the verb should be "are"
the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was ----> subject is "rate" NOT minority population.
Men of Rome who fought bravely ...... ----> subject is "Men" NOT Rome
In the example : In the 1980's the rate of increase of the minority population of the US was nearly as fast as it was in the 1970's >>>> "it" is correct as it is comparing the "rate of increase" between the two periods. However this sentence has redundancies as I have explained earlier.
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Thanks nusmavrik. Can you explain the implications of a preposition- as you mention >> if you say "it" is referring to minority population then you are forgetting the preposition "of"
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The constellation that includes the North Star has been known by many names among different cultures, called “The Bear” in ancient Greece, “The Drinking Gourd” in parts of Africa, and “Star Girl and Her Seven Sky Brothers” among the Cheyenne people of North America
among different cultures, called among different cultures; it was called in different cultures, being called in different cultures; including the title in different cultures; it was called
Not any convincing explanations in old threads, so posting the same.
Queries: (1).Plz explain In V/s Among (2). Why (C). is wrong ?? because IMO (C) says correctly. (3). The ambiguity of "it" in the second clause of (E)
The CONS has been known, (after comma part if in "ing" form tells us "How?" the preceding clause took place or else provides the result of prec. clause) The CONS has been known , and how it has been known "being called X,Y,Z among....)
Plz explain
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not convinced with the tense usage in E. Its given that "...has been known", then how can E is correct since it uses "was called". Whats the source?
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between B and D.... B uses 'among'...now we don't know that only the cultures named in the sentence names the constellation by these names or there are others too.. so we use 'different'
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The constellation that includes the North Star has been known by many names among different cultures, called “The Bear” in ancient Greece, “The Drinking Gourd” in parts of Africa, and “Star Girl and Her Seven Sky Brothers” among the Cheyenne people of North America.
The first thing to solve here is "in" VS "among". Here the winner is (IMO) "in", " North Star has been known by many names in/among different cultures": has been known (...) among is wrong. Out A and B. Now I can eliminate C easly, "COMMA +ING" modifies the preceding clause, in this case "being " refers to "North Star has been known by many names" (doesn't make sense). D or E?
D) in different cultures; including the title E) in different cultures; it was called
When we use ";", we must be aware that is connects two indipent phrases. In D "including" spoils this construct (D is not an indipendent phrase" including the title “The Bear” in ancient Greece ...") IMO E
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Official Explanation: The sentence tests the idiomatic version of the preposition in, which should be used to refer to different cultures. Among is not appropriate here, because the sentence is concerned with the use of names inside each culture. Secondly, the creation of a grammatically correct sentence using a semicolon is being tested.
A) Among would indicate terms common to each culture and is not appropriate in this sentence. Also, the sentence as written is incomplete.
B) Though the sentence is complete, among does not correctly modify different cultures.
C) This option creates a complete sentence, but is unnecessarily wordy.
D) Both a semicolon and conjunction are used in this option, making the sentence incomplete.
E) This option correctly uses the preposition in to modify different cultures and creates a complete sentence by inserting a semicolon.
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The constellation that includes the North Star has been known by many names among different cultures, called “The Bear” in ancient Greece, “The Drinking Gourd” in parts of Africa, and “Star Girl and Her Seven Sky Brothers” among the Cheyenne people of North America.
A) among different cultures, called B) among different cultures; it was called C) in different cultures, being called D) in different cultures; including the title E) in different cultures; it was called
I picked B .I thought among is right.Why among is wrong here?
well this seems a silly question but indeed is not.
back to your question, here is not only a question about "among " as wrong modifier but in my opinion is more slight the difference.
The names are known not among the cultures - the cultures itself didn't share the name - but inside the different cultures the name was identified in different manners. maybe "among" them was known each others how they called the north star but maybe NOT. Each cultures was incapsuleted in their vision and saw at north star in different ways.
So we are concern how NS was called "inside" the single culture. one by one. In Africa (culture) was called X, in Asia Y, in Australia Z and so on
This is a great question; it tastes not only idioms but meaning at the top
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