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The Norwegian government started legal action recently to try and block the so-called Robin Hood tax because it could ensnare countries outside the Eurozone that do not adopt the law.

1) to try and block the so-called Robin Hood tax because it could ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law

2) to try and block the so-called Robin Hood tax; the tax could ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law

3) to try to block the so-called Robin Hood tax because it will ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone, which do not adopt the law

4) to try to block the so-called Robin Hood tax on the grounds that it could ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law

5) to try to block the so-called Robin Hood tax due to the fact that it will ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law

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Please check my method and correct me if I am wrong:

Option A and B are eliminated because of the phrase- "Try and Block". "Try to Block" is idiomatically correct.

Option C and E state that the law WILL ensnare countries outside the Eurozone whereas the question states that it "Coult"

Which leaves us with C
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Please check my method and correct me if I am wrong:

Option A and B are eliminated because of the phrase- "Try and Block". "Try to Block" is idiomatically correct.

Option C and E state that the law WILL ensnare countries outside the Eurozone whereas the question states that it "Coult"

Which leaves us with D*
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The Norwegian government started legal action recently to try and block the so-called Robin Hood tax because it could ensnare countries outside the Eurozone that do not adopt the law.

A) to try and block the so-called Robin Hood tax because it could ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law

B) to try and block the so-called Robin Hood tax; the tax could ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law

C) to try to block the so-called Robin Hood tax because it will ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone, which do not adopt the law

D) to try to block the so-called Robin Hood tax on the grounds that it could ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law

E) to try to block the so-called Robin Hood tax due to the fact that it will ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law

->"to try to block" is the correct idiom, A & B are out
-> Which in option C refers to the Euro zone, hence wrong, C out
-> "on the grounds that it COULD" is preferred to "due to the fact that it WILL"

OA is D
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Although I picked the right answer, I am bit confused in regard to the intended meaning of the sentence.....

"that do not adopt the law" ---> is it the Euro Zone 'that do not adopt the law' or the countries 'that do not adopt the law'?

Can someone please share his/her thoughts on the same?

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Although I picked the right answer, I am bit confused in regard to the intended meaning of the sentence.....

"that do not adopt the law" ---> is it the Euro Zone 'that do not adopt the law' or the countries 'that do not adopt the law'?

Can someone please share his/her thoughts on the same?

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Hi,

The intended meaning is the countries "that do not adopt the law" and these countries lie outside the Euro Zone.


In regards to which is correct - "to try and block" or "to try to block", lets check the meaning. Here the Norwegian government wants to stop the RH Tax. So they are going to do one action : try blocking it, where they may or may not succeed. They are not doing 2 different actions of 1st "Trying" and then a 2nd separate action of "Blocking". I.e. the "Try" leads to "Block" if successful and we should not use "and". So it should not be "To Try and Block" as correct form is - "To Try to Block". Hope I was able to clarify this.
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Hi guys!
I have a question about C. Is it correct to say that "outside Euro zone" modifies "countries" and hence we can use "which" after modifier?. I read about this possibility in SC guide. Please clarify. Thanks!
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C) to try to block the so-called Robin Hood tax because it will ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone, which do not adopt the law -----1. ‘Because it will ensnare’ seems too strongly worded. 2. Which certainly refers to the countries; Note that the verb is plural and it does not refer to the Zone, which is singular. So C is passable.

D to try to block the so-called Robin Hood tax on the grounds that it could ensnare countries outside the Euro Zone that do not adopt the law--- Could ensnare is fine, definitely acceptable at the start of the campaign;2. However, the ‘that’ in Euro Zone is a restrictive pronoun, therefore must refer to the Euro Zone ; There is no elbow-room for the restrictive pronouns to modify any noun other than what is in the front. So all choices that say “ Euro-zone that” are inherently flawed. This leaves only C, I suppose

That is the reason C is better than D.
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Hi daagh, my reasoning is exactly same as yours, 'which' can jump over and refer 'countries' but 'that' can only refer to the previous noun 'euro zone' but the OA is given as D.

So is our reasoning wrong or is there some other split that we are not aware of ? :)

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I am not aware of any other split that justifies "Euro Zone that"; The original poster might fetch the OE, if possible.
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daagh wrote:
....2. However, the ‘that’ in Euro Zone is a restrictive pronoun, therefore must refer to the Euro Zone ; There is no elbow-room for the restrictive pronouns to modify any noun other than what is in the front...
Hi daagh Sir,

Would you please shed light on the following?

If restricted pronoun 'that' cannot modify any noun other than what is in the front, how in the following correct sentence 'that' modifies 70,000 icy objects instead of Kuiper Belt?

Pluto is now categorized as just one out of 70,000 icy objects in the Kuiper Belt that measure 100 kilometers across or more. Truncated from https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-brand-new- ... 72543.html
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Mahmud6 wrote:
daagh wrote:
....2. However, the ‘that’ in Euro Zone is a restrictive pronoun, therefore must refer to the Euro Zone ; There is no elbow-room for the restrictive pronouns to modify any noun other than what is in the front...
Hi daagh Sir,

Would you please shed light on the following?

If restricted pronoun 'that' cannot modify any noun other than what is in the front, how in the following correct sentence 'that' modifies 70,000 icy objects instead of Kuiper Belt?

Pluto is now categorized as just one out of 70,000 icy objects in the Kuiper Belt that measure 100 kilometers across or more. Truncated from https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-brand-new- ... 72543.html


Hello,

I am ofcourse no daagh sir. But thought of presenting my take on this one.
'that' correctly modifies the Kuiper Belt. Had it been modifying icy objects, the meaning would have been absurd, suggesting that the icy objects measure 100 kilometers ....

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....2. However, the ‘that’ in Euro Zone is a restrictive pronoun, therefore must refer to the Euro Zone ; There is no elbow-room for the restrictive pronouns to modify any noun other than what is in the front...
Hi daagh Sir,

Would you please shed light on the following?

If restricted pronoun 'that' cannot modify any noun other than what is in the front, how in the following correct sentence 'that' modifies 70,000 icy objects instead of Kuiper Belt?

Pluto is now categorized as just one out of 70,000 icy objects in the Kuiper Belt that measure 100 kilometers across or more. Truncated from https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-brand-new- ... 72543.html


Hello,

I am ofcourse no daagh sir. But thought of presenting my take on this one.
'that' correctly modifies the Kuiper Belt. Had it been modifying icy objects, the meaning would have been absurd, suggesting that the icy objects measure 100 kilometers ....

Hope it helps


TaN1213

Thanks you for your response.

Have you seen the link I mentioned with the post? In the link 'that' correctly modifies the icy objects NOT the Kuiper Belt.
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Mahmud6 wrote:
TaN1213 wrote:

Hello,

I am ofcourse no daagh sir. But thought of presenting my take on this one.
'that' correctly modifies the Kuiper Belt. Had it been modifying icy objects, the meaning would have been absurd, suggesting that the icy objects measure 100 kilometers ....

Hope it helps


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Thanks you for your response.

Have you seen the link I mentioned with the post? In the link 'that' correctly modifies the icy objects NOT the Kuiper Belt.

Yes, I am talking about the option B(correct answer choice) from your link.

B). Discovered in 1930 and once considered the ninth planet in the solar system, Pluto lost its planetary status in 2006, a development that prompted the International Astronomical Union (IAU) to create a new definition for the term ‘planet’, and is now categorized as just one out of 70,000 icy objects in the Kuiper Belt that measure .

As you have already mentioned - "If restricted pronoun 'that' cannot modify any noun other than what is in the front" , 'that' correctly modifies the belt.

Let me know if you feel I am missing something.
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TaN1213 wrote:
Mahmud6 wrote:
TaN1213 wrote:

Hello,

I am ofcourse no daagh sir. But thought of presenting my take on this one.
'that' correctly modifies the Kuiper Belt. Had it been modifying icy objects, the meaning would have been absurd, suggesting that the icy objects measure 100 kilometers ....

Hope it helps


TaN1213

Thanks you for your response.

Have you seen the link I mentioned with the post? In the link 'that' correctly modifies the icy objects NOT the Kuiper Belt.

Yes, I am talking about the option B(correct answer choice) from your link.

B). Discovered in 1930 and once considered the ninth planet in the solar system, Pluto lost its planetary status in 2006, a development that prompted the International Astronomical Union (IAU) to create a new definition for the term ‘planet’, and is now categorized as just one out of 70,000 icy objects in the Kuiper Belt that measure .

As you have already mentioned - "If restricted pronoun 'that' cannot modify any noun other than what is in the front" , 'that' correctly modifies the belt.

Let me know if you feel I am missing something.


If 'that' had correctly modified the Kuiper Belt, than it would have been 'measures' Not 'measure'.
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Mahmud6 wrote:
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Mahmud6 wrote:

TaN1213

Thanks you for your response.

Have you seen the link I mentioned with the post? In the link 'that' correctly modifies the icy objects NOT the Kuiper Belt.

Yes, I am talking about the option B(correct answer choice) from your link.

B). Discovered in 1930 and once considered the ninth planet in the solar system, Pluto lost its planetary status in 2006, a development that prompted the International Astronomical Union (IAU) to create a new definition for the term ‘planet’, and is now categorized as just one out of 70,000 icy objects in the Kuiper Belt that measure .

As you have already mentioned - "If restricted pronoun 'that' cannot modify any noun other than what is in the front" , 'that' correctly modifies the belt.

Let me know if you feel I am missing something.


If 'that' had correctly modified the Kuiper Belt, than it would have been 'measures' Not 'measure'.


I see. Need to be careful. Thanks :)
Now I too await Daagh sir's reply on this one.
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I found a long discussion on whether that can refer back to far away noun or not.Well the answer is YES IT CAN but only if that modification makes sense .

There is a nicely written article by egmat on the topic and an entire chapter dedicated in the mgmat SC guide.

I'm posting an official gmatprep question in which that has refereed back to a far away noun.

For many revisionist historians, Christopher Columbus has come to personify devastation and enslavement in the name of progress that has decimated native peoples of the Western Hemisphere.

(A) devastation and enslavement in the name of progress that has decimated native peoples of the Western Hemisphere

(B) devastation and enslavement in the name of progress by which native peoples of the Western Hemisphere have been decimated

(C) devastating and enslaving in the name of progress those native peoples of the Western Hemisphere that have been decimated

(D) devastating and enslaving those native peoples of the Western Hemisphere which in the name of progress are decimated

(E) the devastation and enslavement in the name of progress that have decimated the native peoples of the Western Hemisphere
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