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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer,

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both
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both is not needed, Monk's work is rooted in only the stride-piano tradition, thus eliminate A, B and E.

C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted

D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

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Going to try this by elimination. The first thing to look out here is the keyword for idiom "both". "both A and B" is the correct idiom. This eliminates A because of idiom error. In fact I get the feeling the the usage of 'both' is incorrect altogether here, since with 'both A and B' , A and B need to be at least somewhat parallel. In this case they are not. Thus eliminate B and E.

C just doesnt read correctly for me. Consider this :
Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in
many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

The 'he' is pretty ambiguous here.

Thus I will go with D.

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both
rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in
many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.
A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

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Was confused b/w B and D .

But it is the "tradition of both The smith and Duke eglinton" rather than
both in tradition of the smith and duke eglington".

My sat D.

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28 Jun 2007, 17:56
D. correct idiom: "both x and y" or "both in x and in y".
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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

(A) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
(C) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
(D) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
(E) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both
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Re: Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz : Whats wrong with this.... [#permalink]

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03 Jun 2010, 20:46
Post the question itself, please, that way it is easier to see the obvious mistakes, since we have to choose the best answer in GMAT!
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04 Jun 2010, 04:42
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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and
composer, produced a body of work both rooted
in the
stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and
Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from
the mainstream jazz repertory ..

Can we discuss whats wrong with this sentence? And how do we correct it?

Thanks

IMO this is not structurally parallel

idiom: both X and Y (here X & Y are parallel)

both rooted in the stride-piano tradition .. and Duke Ellington -> do you think this is parallel?
both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and in the stride-piano tradition of Willie Duke Ellington -> better

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

a) same
b) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
c) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
d) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
e) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

"rooted both" and "both rooted" : not required. The sentence means that the roots of the work are in the tradition of Willie and Duke Ellington.

Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington : here [highlight]and[/highlight] is used for the composers [highlight]not the roots[/highlight]

The sentence means that the work is rooted in the tradition of WS and DE.

a) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
b) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
c) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
d) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
e) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

C : ambiguous who
Hence D.

Both x and y
Both in x and in y
Both at X and at Y is correct. Both on X or on Y is correct.
Both should always have parallel forms associated to it.
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26 Aug 2010, 11:25
D is the answer because "both" is meaningless here and is not idiomatically correct.
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A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

In this both is not required at all
Hence A,B and E are out
that gives us C and D
C somehow does not sound right it suggest as if Thelonious Monk was rooted and not the work
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27 May 2011, 13:34
This one is a tough one ..
Is this 780+ Question ?

Even the wrong options needs good effort to be eliminated.
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05 Jun 2011, 21:02
Answer is D, It is OG 12 Q 88

who cases can be removed as other cases are simple hence A & C
similar to who appositives can also be ignored hence B

Between D & E it is tough
approach 1 - after both "x and y" are not parallel .. stride piano .. and duke .., so both will not work in this case
approach 2 - both is not required as body of work is rooted in stride piano tradition only
if it were written "body of work is rooted in both stride piano of tradition and dancing tradition" then it could have been correct

Hence D.. Yea it is tough one
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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

(A) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
(C) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
(D) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
(E) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both
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Why is the usage of both wrong in A,C,E?
I know the correct idiom is Both A and B or Both in A and in B ...

In B we have =>both in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith (A) and Duke Ellington (B)
---- isnt Both in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Both in the stride-piano tradition of Duke Ellington understood here ???

both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith (A) and Duke Ellington (B) --- do we need to type both in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and both in the stride-piano tradition of Duke Ellington .... isnt that understood?

Also, why is the usage of 'who' wrong in C?

Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

a) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
b) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
c) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
d) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
e) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

The usage of "who" in choice C is wrong.

Take a run at this simplified example...

Tiger Woods, who is a famous golfer, endorses Nike, but he wears Reebok. [Correct]

Tiger Woods, who is a famous golfer that endorses Nike, but he wears Reebok. [Incorrect]

Why? --- The noun Tiger Woods does not have an accompanying verb. It is incomplete.

Choice C can be corrected as follows:

Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, was a traditional jazz pianist and composer, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

As you can see -- [Noun], [WHO]......., [Verb] + Modifier, [Coordinating Conjunction] + [Independent Clause]
[Monk], [WHO]......., [was] + traditional jazz.. , [YET] [He stood apart from the...]
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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

a) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
b) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
c) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
d) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
e) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

The idiom both..and is deceptively used here. All options except C and D use the word both incorrectly here. C is a fragment, not a complete sentence. Hence the right answer is D.
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27 Aug 2011, 13:29
both is incorrectly used here. Hence, only C and D remain. C is a fragment and not a complete sentence. Hence, D is the answer.
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D...rooted both is unnecessary
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'both' is not needed. D is the right answer.
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