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There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as the novels of James Fenimore Cooper.

(A) There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as: Incorrect. It's too wordy and " Where" should refer to place. In this case, "in which" is preferred.
(B) In early American literature, nowhere is Jane Austen’s influence so apparent than in: Incorrect. Novels of James now becomes part of early American Literature. Changes meaning.
(C) It is nowhere more apparent in early American literature that Jane Austen was an influence as in: Incorrect. The focus of the sentence should be on Influence of Jane Austen while this sentence takes that focus away.
(D) Nowhere in early American literature is the influence of Jane Austen more apparent than in: Correct.
(E) Nowhere in early American literature is it more apparent that Jane Austen had an influence than: Incorrect. Jane Austen had an influence incorrectly changes the meaning.
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There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as the novels of James Fenimore Cooper.

(A) There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as
(B) In early American literature, nowhere is Jane Austen’s influence so apparent than in
(C) It is nowhere more apparent in early American literature that Jane Austen was an influence as in
(D) Nowhere in early American literature is the influence of Jane Austen more apparent than in
(E) Nowhere in early American literature is it more apparent that Jane Austen had an influence than

OA after some discussion.


This quest test your idioms knowledge.
it should be either 'more...than' or ' so .....that'. only option D and E have this construction. In option E, it has used 'had' which is not require.
Hence correct option is D
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There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as the novels of James Fenimore Cooper.

(A) There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as : Nowhere and where redundant
(B) In early American literature, nowhere is Jane Austen’s influence so apparent than in
(C) It is nowhere more apparent in early American literature that Jane Austen was an influence as in
(D) Nowhere in early American literature is the influence of Jane Austen more apparent than in
(E) Nowhere in early American literature is it more apparent that Jane Austen had an influence than

OA after some discussion.


"So apparent as to" is not unidiomatic but it is wrong in thIS context. (Comparison here)
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(B) In early American literature, nowhere is Jane Austen’s influence so apparent than in
(C) It is nowhere more apparent in early American literature that Jane Austen was an influence as in
(D) Nowhere in early American literature is the influence of Jane Austen more apparent than in
(E) Nowhere in early American literature is it more apparent that Jane Austen had an influence than
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While doing this question, it may be worthwhile to remember another similar problem that was doing the rounds in the 2006's and 2007's. The source is not clear. However, it seems that it emanated from the now disgraced 1000 series, which itself was a derivative of the official GMAT questions.

Nowhere in Prakta is the influence of modern European architecture more apparent than their government buildings.

(A) more apparent than their
(B) so apparent as their
(C) more apparent than in its
(D) so apparent than in their
(E) as apparent as it is
Ans : C
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There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as the novels of James Fenimore Cooper.

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(A) There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as

"where" should refer to a place, it cannot logically refer to American literature.
A is out.
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(B) In early American literature, nowhere is Jane Austen’s influence so apparent than in

so...than... is wrong.
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(C) It is nowhere more apparent in early American literature that Jane Austen was an influence as in

The subject of the sentence is " influence of Jane Austen " not " Jane Austen " herself.
C is out.
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(D) Nowhere in early American literature is the influence of Jane Austen more apparent than in

Clean comparison.
Nowhere [ in early American literature is the influence of Jane Austen ] more apparent than [ in the novels of James Fenimore Cooper.

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(E) Nowhere in early American literature is it more apparent that Jane Austen had an influence than

Same error as in C.
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hey MartyTargetTestPrep ReedArnoldMPREP - could you assist on B. The GMAT i thought was moving away from idioms, yet i got this on my mba#1 exam. can one eliminate B if you dont know the idiom.
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hey MartyTargetTestPrep ReedArnoldMPREP - could you assist on B. The GMAT i thought was moving away from idioms, yet i got this on my mba#1 exam. can one eliminate B if you dont know the idiom.


First, the practice tests at MBA.com are not *fully* up-to-date with modern test patterns. They don't get updated near as frequently as the actual tests (I don't even know the last time there was an overhaul to the practice tests).

Secondly, I suppose this is an idiom? But it's also just... definitional. "So" (when used like this) means "to an excessive amount, resulting in something" (as in, "I was so hungry that I ate two burritos"). Now, in colloquial speech we often leave out the second part and just use 'so' for emphasis meaning, basically, 'extremely' ("I was *so* hungry"), however on the GMAT that's too informal. B is kind of playing with that common usage.

Instead we should use "Nowhere was her influence as apparent as in _________" (if this was the true peak of the apparent-ness of her influence) or "Nowhere was her influence more apparent than in" (if it's possible in some other instances her influence was equally apparent, but nowhere did the apparent-ness of her influence exceed what it was in this instance).
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..........
Secondly, I suppose this is an idiom? But it's also just... definitional. "So" (when used like this) means "to an excessive amount, resulting in something" (as in, "I was so hungry that I ate two burritos"). Now, in colloquial speech we often leave out the second part and just use 'so' for emphasis meaning, basically, 'extremely' ("I was *so* hungry"), however on the GMAT that's too informal. B is kind of playing with that common usage.
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Hi ReedArnoldMPREP - on the blue font - is that acceptable on the GMAT ? I think the sentence above is acceptable because the "THAT" is playing the role of divider of the 2 clauses (clause 1 - I was so hungry) (clause 2 - I ate two burritos)

Now, i am more confused :(

So....that IS ACCEPTABLE on the GMAT

So, whats wrong with (B) then

Originally posted by jabhatta2 on 18 Mar 2022, 15:52.
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ReedArnoldMPREP wrote:
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Secondly, I suppose this is an idiom? But it's also just... definitional. "So" (when used like this) means "to an excessive amount, resulting in something" (as in, "I was so hungry that I ate two burritos"). Now, in colloquial speech we often leave out the second part and just use 'so' for emphasis meaning, basically, 'extremely' ("I was *so* hungry"), however on the GMAT that's too informal. B is kind of playing with that common usage.
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Hi ReedArnoldMPREP - on the blue font - is that acceptable on the GMAT ? I think the sentence above is acceptable because the "THAT" is playing the role of divider of the 2 clauses (clause 1 - I was so hungry) (clause 2 - I ate two burritos)

Now, i am more confused :(

So....that IS ACCEPTABLE on the GMAT

So, whats wrong with (B) then


B says "so apparent *than*"

Not 'so apparent that' (and if it said 'so apparent that,' it would not make a complete thought. "Nowhere was her influence so apparent that the novels of James Fenimore Cooper."

A). What did the novels of James Fenimore Cooper *do*?

B). Even if they DID do something, the meaning would be "Jane Austen's influence was never high enough to make James Fenimore Cooper's novels [do something]."

The meaning is clearly "Jane Austen's influence was at its maximum in James fenimore Cooper's novels."

The meaning of 'so... that,' in this place, wouldn't work. You'd have to say something like, "The influence of Jane Austen in James Fenimore Cooper's novels was so apparent that nowhere else in early American Literature can match it."

But that is a completely different structure.
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Thanks ReedArnoldMPREP for responding

What are your thoughts on "so ...than" specifically ?

too me - all of these sentences seem right (in spoken english atleast)

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Nowhere is Alex more influential than in Canada.
Nowhere is Alex as influential as in Canada
Nowhere is Alex more influential as in Canada
Nowhere is Alex as influential than in Canada
Nowhere is Alex so influential than in Canada
Nowhere is Alex so influential as in in Canada
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Thanks ReedArnoldMPREP for responding

What are your thoughts on "so ...than" specifically ?

too me - all of these sentences seem right (in spoken english atleast)

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Nowhere is Alex more influential than in Canada.
Nowhere is Alex as influential as in Canada
Nowhere is Alex more influential as in Canada
Nowhere is Alex as influential than in Canada
Nowhere is Alex so influential than in Canada
Nowhere is Alex so influential as in in Canada


Only the first two are correct.
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ReedArnoldMPREP wrote:
jabhatta2 wrote:
Thanks ReedArnoldMPREP for responding

What are your thoughts on "so ...than" specifically ?

too me - all of these sentences seem right (in spoken english atleast)

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Nowhere is Alex more influential than in Canada.
Nowhere is Alex as influential as in Canada
Nowhere is Alex more influential as in Canada
Nowhere is Alex as influential than in Canada
Nowhere is Alex so influential than in Canada
Nowhere is Alex so influential as in in Canada


Only the first two are correct.


Thanks ReedArnoldMPREP - is there a logical reason why More...as | as...than | so...than | so....as | are considered wrong or have you just memorized it ?

Also, just confirming -- other than the idiom so...than -- there is no other way to eliminate correct ?
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Thanks ReedArnoldMPREP - is there a logical reason why More...as | as...than | so...than | so....as | are considered wrong or have you just memorized it ?


Memorizing is probably easiest, I guess? But also consider what the words mean. 'As' is typically used to show comparisons of 'equality,' (as tall as, as fast as, etc.) so saying 'more...as' doesn't make sense, as 'more' is unequal. 'Than' is used for comparisons of difference, not equality, so saying 'as...than' doesn't make sense. 'So' is used to mean, when talking about 'amount,' 'an excessive amount resulting in something,' and not *really* to compare two things of different value (as 'than' is) or two things of the same value (as 'as' is), so "so...than" and "so...as" don't make sense.

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Also, just confirming -- other than the idiom so...than -- there is no other way to eliminate correct ?


I don't see any other reason to eliminate B.
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There is nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is so apparent as the novels of James Fenimore Cooper.

D.

(A) There is - nowhere in early American literature where the influence of Jane Austen is - so apparent as -
A`s meaning :- influence of Jane Austen || novels of James Fenimore Cooper.
Intended meaning : in early american literature || novels of ....

(B) In early American literature, nowhere is Jane Austen’s influence so apparent than in
Wrong idiom : so X than Y

(C) It is nowhere more apparent in early American literature that Jane Austen was an influence as in
Wrong idiom : more X that Y

(D) Nowhere in early American literature is the influence of Jane Austen more apparent than in
Intended meaning : in early american literature || novels of ....


(E) Nowhere in early American literature is it more apparent that Jane Austen had an influence than : wrong meaning
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