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Hi everyone, could anyone help me ascertain if I have any chance of getting into Harvard. I do understand that my profile is a bit weak but if there's any chance at all than I'd love to apply.

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Nationality: Pakistan (Might be an underrepresented nationality)
Gender: Male
Age: 25 (soon to be)

Undergrad: 3.2 GPA (Lahore University of Management Sciences)

GMAT: 700 (Q48, V38, IR 4) - Online GMAT Hence no AWA

Work Experience: 3 Years
1 Year in a Burgeoning Startup Attempting to Create Livelihood for Local Farmer Population
2 Years in Friesland Campina as Assistant Manager Sales and Operational Planning

Awards: Topped Country in Additional Mathematics in IGCSE Exams

Co-Curricular: None - however a documented creative streak (write my own blog and have self published a small novella describing life in University, also delivered a University Level Talk on Video Game Addiction)

Internships: Multiple Local as well as Single International Internship in China

Letters of Recommendation: Planning on getting 2 from Directors at Pakistani OPCO's of Multi National Companies who I've worked with previously.
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Undergrad Information: Public 4 year state school (2.9 GPA, took double courseload and graduated in 2 years)
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Work experience and leadership: Special Operations Intelligence while in Military and afterwards as a civilian. Four deployments, three to combat zones. Experience with international politics
Community and others: Interesting volunteer experience (International SPCA)
Post MBA goals: Consulting with long term plans to transition back to public sector
Anything else?: Strong academic performance in military schools after undergrad (ranked first in class for several technical schools, selected for SOF community, etc). Good story to explain poor GPA during undergrad. Strong leadership experience via combat deployments. Intent is to end up in a DOD federal leadership position with intent to help fix diversity problems in the military, short term goal MBB consulting

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Hi,

I am 29 yo Turkish male. I completed my Business Administration Undergrad in Turkey at top 3 schools in Turkey in 2014. (I was 1983th between 2M students)
Undergrad GPA: 3.36/4.0
Went to Netherlands for Erasmus study.
GMAT - Still working on it.

I worked for a VC fund for a year when I graduated. 500 deals prescreened. Helped for fundraising & establish a new funnel system for the fund. Also, I’ve contacted with many bigtech companies such as Amazon, Google etc. to get some perks for our portfolio companies. One of the portfolio company that I worked closely elected as Endeavor Entrepreneur within my efforts.

Later, I’ve noticed that I need much more industry & professional experience to bring more on table. So I left there and started to work for leading telco company. I’ve started at strategy department. First 2 years, we evaluate more than 50 deals to make feasilibity plans and potential benefits of those to company. Later, we have merged with subsidiaries team. My company has around 20 different subsidiaries and I entered all monthly board meetings of those subsidiaries. I collected & compiled financial and business data of those under single dashboard and presented this dashboard to C-Level. Some companies need further attention. So, I worked closely with their teams. Later , since April 2019 we are focusing on commercial projects and business development activities. Our New management team wants to combine external innovation with our company’s resources. This new duty really helped me to show myself. Because I have been actively involved in entrepreneurship ecosystem since 2013 from my university years while I was working as an Intern at entrepreneurship center in my university. I can really find eligible entrepreneurs easily by contacting with my network and my manager & director are always surprised that How I’m doing this.

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1. Board Member of a University club which organizes book fair that aims to bring discount priced books to school for university students & youth festival that is the biggest event of the year. 4 day lasting. ~600 events organized and doing this free for students by securing some sponsorship (Hundred thousands dollars per year)
2. Actively mentoring to Turkish Tech ecosystem. One of the company ,that I’ve helped, raised 500k USD and then he secured a joint venture investment from an American investor group. Also I helped him to develop & present his financial model. We also worked closely together to look for customer development strategy & changing business model from single time payment to recurring revenue model. Other one is an IoT company which digitizes everything. Some of my ex-directors started to work at municipalities and government itself. They called me about their needs & I find some companies which might be helpful for them. Still some negotiations & trials are ongoing. Hope they can help to digitalize infrastructure to increase efficiency.
3. Worked on technology committee at a political movement. They want me to help them in their technology policy making issues. We are still working on it. Writing policies & recommendations. Putting it into party’s future plans & programs. Cross functional team. It can closely work with other divisions such as economy, environment etc.
4. Started to write at one news blog during covid-19. Writing biweekly some tech articles into there.

Short Term Goal: Working at management consulting especially at public, finance & tmt practices.

Long Term Goal: By combining MPA - ID education at HKS & MBA at H/W/Sloan/Tuck and my experience at telecom & management consulting, I would like to work for government as a public officer. I want to increase prosperity, digitalization, entrepreneurship & education levels of my country.

One of my biggest passion is smart cities & infrastructure digitalization. It is an essential things for the world. Resources are getting more scarce day by day and we need to use benefits of technology. So we need to digitalize infrastructure as efficient as possible. I am recommending this to current administrators as well as the political movement leaders that I am actively involved.

I want to learn holistic approach of Public Administration & Business Administration. That’s why I choose to do MBA & MPA-ID. MPA-ID is a rigorous and math heavy program within developing countries. I will be working in a Turkey or other developing countries when I graduated. It is more challenging and has a great learning curve.

I would like to do HKS MPA-ID Joint Degree with HBS MBA or Concurrent Degrees with Sloan, Tuck or Wharton. Do I have any chance of getting into those?

Thanks for long reading and evaluation!

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If you have a competitive test score, it pays for you to apply to HKS and the MBA programs you are considering. You may also want to consider the Wharton Johns Hopkins program in International Studies or the joint programs at Columbia between its MBA program and SIPA.

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Hi everyone, could anyone help me ascertain if I have any chance of getting into Harvard. I do understand that my profile is a bit weak but if there's any chance at all than I'd love to apply.

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Nationality: Pakistan (Might be an underrepresented nationality)
Gender: Male
Age: 25 (soon to be)

Undergrad: 3.2 GPA (Lahore University of Management Sciences)

GMAT: 700 (Q48, V38, IR 4) - Online GMAT Hence no AWA

Work Experience: 3 Years
1 Year in a Burgeoning Startup Attempting to Create Livelihood for Local Farmer Population
2 Years in Friesland Campina as Assistant Manager Sales and Operational Planning

Awards: Topped Country in Additional Mathematics in IGCSE Exams

Co-Curricular: None - however a documented creative streak (write my own blog and have self published a small novella describing life in University, also delivered a University Level Talk on Video Game Addiction)

Internships: Multiple Local as well as Single International Internship in China

Letters of Recommendation: Planning on getting 2 from Directors at Pakistani OPCO's of Multi National Companies who I've worked with previously.

I can't say you'd have "no chance" of getting in, but I am not optimistic. If you tell me your post-MBA goal, I'm happy to recommend other programs for you.
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Undergrad Information: Public 4 year state school (2.9 GPA, took double courseload and graduated in 2 years)
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Community and others: Interesting volunteer experience (International SPCA)
Post MBA goals: Consulting with long term plans to transition back to public sector
Anything else?: Strong academic performance in military schools after undergrad (ranked first in class for several technical schools, selected for SOF community, etc). Good story to explain poor GPA during undergrad. Strong leadership experience via combat deployments. Intent is to end up in a DOD federal leadership position with intent to help fix diversity problems in the military, short term goal MBB consulting

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Obviously your undergrad GPA is going to be a hurdle. However given your GMAT, your military academic success, your military experience and leadership, and your goals, it makes sense for you to apply to HBS -- provided you also apply to other programs that support your goals. For the other programs, consider Yale, Kellogg, Duke, Darden, Georgetown, and Ross.
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Hi everyone, could anyone help me ascertain if I have any chance of getting into Harvard. I do understand that my profile is a bit weak but if there's any chance at all than I'd love to apply.

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Nationality: Pakistan (Might be an underrepresented nationality)
Gender: Male
Age: 25 (soon to be)

Undergrad: 3.2 GPA (Lahore University of Management Sciences)

GMAT: 700 (Q48, V38, IR 4) - Online GMAT Hence no AWA

Work Experience: 3 Years
1 Year in a Burgeoning Startup Attempting to Create Livelihood for Local Farmer Population
2 Years in Friesland Campina as Assistant Manager Sales and Operational Planning

Awards: Topped Country in Additional Mathematics in IGCSE Exams

Co-Curricular: None - however a documented creative streak (write my own blog and have self published a small novella describing life in University, also delivered a University Level Talk on Video Game Addiction)

Internships: Multiple Local as well as Single International Internship in China

Letters of Recommendation: Planning on getting 2 from Directors at Pakistani OPCO's of Multi National Companies who I've worked with previously.

I can't say you'd have "no chance" of getting in, but I am not optimistic. If you tell me your post-MBA goal, I'm happy to recommend other programs for you.

Thank you for taking the time out to get back to me. I'll try and best answer the questions you've asked as well.
Before doing so however, I understand my chances are a bit limited with my current standing and my primary goals are actually in countries such as AUS, Canada and Singapore however I do want to atleast try my hand at some top US and European universities even if I get rejected down the line I can apply again when i have a better profile. I have a typical list made with some dream universities, some hopeful ones and then a few that i feel a bit more confident since I'm well above in terms of median GMAT and close in terms of GPA as well. I hope that's a good approach going into applications?

Some detail would help here in terms of work experience.
2018 - Mandi Express Pvt Ltd (eCommerce Portal connecting farmers producing fresh produce to consumers)
Primary Responsibilites:
1-Handling Website Operations and Backend from Customer Service to Completion
2-Designed Marketing and Pricing Protocols for new Vendors

While I could honestly host a list of achievements here my primary duties were simply to ensure that the front end and backend of the website was functioning properly as any problem resulted in business loss. My primary achievement was the role I played in acquisition of a massive eCommerce account that basically put the startup on the map - I was responsible for designing the pricing mechanism that we were using with the acquired account.

Mid 2019 Till Date - Friesland Campina Engro Pakistan
Primary Achievements:
1-Reduced OOS from a higher limit of 15 OOS days to a target of 5 OOS days for Value Brands (Brands driving Productivity Growth)
2-Demand and Supply Alignment to achieve growth of 16% in Volume base from 2018-2019 over a 300mn annual Volume Base
3-Responsible for Ongoing Digital Revitalization of Demand Forecasting (Ongoing - involves migrating from a manual forecasting system to an entirely digital solution)
4-Responsible for annual Corporate Planning

My referrers will also likely attest to the same achievements as above.

Creative Outlets:
1-University Blog - I used to contribute weekly to university literature and as stated earlier I wrote a small book describing the typical struggles of a university student back in Pakistan
2-Public Speaking - Delivered a talk on Video Game Addiction in collaboration with the Psychology Club in University.
3-Community Contribution - I have a strong sense of community in general, while it's definitely hard to document such instances because a lot of what I've often done is more informal however whichever University I am to be a part of will find that I'm among those who will often go well beyond the line of duty to contribute to anything either the university or the student body might require.

I understand that my application is weak and my career is in its infancy as well but that is precisely why I want to apply for an MBA. My interests lie in Marketing and Data Analytics and as it stands there is a lack of appreciation or work on generating Strategic Insights for growth on a national level in my home country. I want to get in a room with the individuals that will likely be accompanying me in this MBA journey and learn from them and be able to take that learning to wherever I join. My aim would be to start a Career in Marketing or Strategy with my primary interests being in Consumer Products or in Consumer Technology - that too preferably in the country where i graduate.
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Hi everyone, could anyone help me ascertain if I have any chance of getting into Harvard. I do understand that my profile is a bit weak but if there's any chance at all than I'd love to apply.

Profile:
Nationality: Pakistan (Might be an underrepresented nationality)
Gender: Male
Age: 25 (soon to be)

Undergrad: 3.2 GPA (Lahore University of Management Sciences)

GMAT: 700 (Q48, V38, IR 4) - Online GMAT Hence no AWA

Work Experience: 3 Years
1 Year in a Burgeoning Startup Attempting to Create Livelihood for Local Farmer Population
2 Years in Friesland Campina as Assistant Manager Sales and Operational Planning

Awards: Topped Country in Additional Mathematics in IGCSE Exams

Co-Curricular: None - however a documented creative streak (write my own blog and have self published a small novella describing life in University, also delivered a University Level Talk on Video Game Addiction)

Internships: Multiple Local as well as Single International Internship in China

Letters of Recommendation: Planning on getting 2 from Directors at Pakistani OPCO's of Multi National Companies who I've worked with previously.

I can't say you'd have "no chance" of getting in, but I am not optimistic. If you tell me your post-MBA goal, I'm happy to recommend other programs for you.

Thank you for taking the time out to get back to me. I'll try and best answer the questions you've asked as well.
Before doing so however, I understand my chances are a bit limited with my current standing and my primary goals are actually in countries such as AUS, Canada and Singapore however I do want to atleast try my hand at some top US and European universities even if I get rejected down the line I can apply again when i have a better profile. I have a typical list made with some dream universities, some hopeful ones and then a few that i feel a bit more confident since I'm well above in terms of median GMAT and close in terms of GPA as well. I hope that's a good approach going into applications?

Some detail would help here in terms of work experience.
2018 - Mandi Express Pvt Ltd (eCommerce Portal connecting farmers producing fresh produce to consumers)
Primary Responsibilites:
1-Handling Website Operations and Backend from Customer Service to Completion
2-Designed Marketing and Pricing Protocols for new Vendors

While I could honestly host a list of achievements here my primary duties were simply to ensure that the front end and backend of the website was functioning properly as any problem resulted in business loss. My primary achievement was the role I played in acquisition of a massive eCommerce account that basically put the startup on the map - I was responsible for designing the pricing mechanism that we were using with the acquired account.

Mid 2019 Till Date - Friesland Campina Engro Pakistan
Primary Achievements:
1-Reduced OOS from a higher limit of 15 OOS days to a target of 5 OOS days for Value Brands (Brands driving Productivity Growth)
2-Demand and Supply Alignment to achieve growth of 16% in Volume base from 2018-2019 over a 300mn annual Volume Base
3-Responsible for Ongoing Digital Revitalization of Demand Forecasting (Ongoing - involves migrating from a manual forecasting system to an entirely digital solution)
4-Responsible for annual Corporate Planning

My referrers will also likely attest to the same achievements as above.

Creative Outlets:
1-University Blog - I used to contribute weekly to university literature and as stated earlier I wrote a small book describing the typical struggles of a university student back in Pakistan
2-Public Speaking - Delivered a talk on Video Game Addiction in collaboration with the Psychology Club in University.
3-Community Contribution - I have a strong sense of community in general, while it's definitely hard to document such instances because a lot of what I've often done is more informal however whichever University I am to be a part of will find that I'm among those who will often go well beyond the line of duty to contribute to anything either the university or the student body might require.

I understand that my application is weak and my career is in its infancy as well but that is precisely why I want to apply for an MBA. My interests lie in Marketing and Data Analytics and as it stands there is a lack of appreciation or work on generating Strategic Insights for growth on a national level in my home country. I want to get in a room with the individuals that will likely be accompanying me in this MBA journey and learn from them and be able to take that learning to wherever I join. My aim would be to start a Career in Marketing or Strategy with my primary interests being in Consumer Products or in Consumer Technology - that too preferably in the country where i graduate.

My recommendation to you would be to either wait a few years and improve your qualifications by doing excellent work professionally such that you can show the leadership and impact that top MBA programs want to see while also improving your GMAT score, or, enroll in a Masters in Business Analytics program. These are increasingly popular programs. They may give your the foundation your need, or they may give you the foundation to get a great job for a few years and then apply to an MBA. However, you may not need the MBA. Here are a few links to information about MSBA programs, many of which are online.

Check out:
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https://blog.accepted.com/nyu-sterns-ne ... isode-306/
https://blog.accepted.com/uclas-ms-in-b ... isode-208/
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Or just google MS in Business Analytics.
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Hi all,

I'd greatly appreciate feedback on my profile and specifically if I'd make sense to explain GPA issue in the additional essay - thanks a lot.

- Demographics: 26 y/o female from Turkey
- GMAT: 750 (online) - verbal: 41, quan: 50, IR: 8
- Undergrad: Industrial Engineering at a top school in Turkey - CGPA: 3.34 (it has a downwards trends which can be an issue)
- Work Experience:
* Has been working for 4 years at the management consulting division of a global technology company
* Got 2 fast-track promotions and has been working as a project manager for the past year
* Has extensive international experience in Europe and Asia Pacific
- Extracurriculars (was not really active here after university)
* Organized a TEDx at the university
* Mentored and taught courses to underprivileged students at the university
- Courses: Got online course from HarvardX and MoMA
- Career goal:
* Post-MBA: Joining the financial services unit of a digital giant (e.g., ApplePay, AmazonPay)
* Long-term: Founding my own fintech that tackles financial inclusion through technology
- Why MBA: I want to develop myself on entreprenurship

First round: HBS, LBS, MIT, Columbia
Second round: INSEAD, Wharton, Stanford
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Hi all,

I'd greatly appreciate feedback on my profile and specifically if I'd make sense to explain GPA issue in the additional essay - thanks a lot.

- Demographics: 26 y/o female from Turkey
- GMAT: 750 (online) - verbal: 41, quan: 50, IR: 8
- Undergrad: Industrial Engineering at a top school in Turkey - CGPA: 3.34 (it has a downwards trends which can be an issue)
- Work Experience:
* Has been working for 4 years at the management consulting division of a global technology company
* Got 2 fast-track promotions and has been working as a project manager for the past year
* Has extensive international experience in Europe and Asia Pacific
- Extracurriculars (was not really active here after university)
* Organized a TEDx at the university
* Mentored and taught courses to underprivileged students at the university
- Courses: Got online course from HarvardX and MoMA
- Career goal:
* Post-MBA: Joining the financial services unit of a digital giant (e.g., ApplePay, AmazonPay)
* Long-term: Founding my own fintech that tackles financial inclusion through technology
- Why MBA: I want to develop myself on entreprenurship

First round: HBS, LBS, MIT, Columbia
Second round: INSEAD, Wharton, Stanford

Hello

To respond to your question, if there was a downward trend to your grades, I encourage you to address it and provide context for what happened. You may want to listen to "5 A's for Your Low GPA."

YOu have a competitive profile at the programs you are applying to. I'm assuming you can show impact and leadership or you wouldn't have received those promotions. With a strong presentation of your qualifications, I'm optimistic about your chances of acceptance at least at some of your target programs.

If you'd like help with your applications, please let me know.

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- Demographic
--- 25, Male, Chinese-Canadian
- Academics
--- B.Sc, Computer Science at Top-20
--- Published 2 papers in mid-tier journals
--- TA'ed for 2 courses
--- Graduated in 3 (usually 4) years
- Scores
--- GPA - 3.40
--- GRE: Q:166, V:162, AWA:5 (Projected)

Experience (oldest - most recent)
- 1-year - Tech Founder
--- tech software start-up (3 people)
--- got into a semi-prestigious accelerator
--- flunked without raising money
- 2-year - Software Engineer
--- at a famous tech unicorn that got pretty well-known recently
--- youngest senior engineer there, and was one of the top contributors
--- owned many key systems and was reallocated to the highest priority team company wide
--- no leadership role
- 1-year - Project Manager (current)
--- volunteering full-time at a small but international NGO thats been around for a long time
--- coordinating 6 people in 6 different African countries, each them having a team of (3-7)
--- project didn't exist before, defined the objectives + assembled the personale (though these people had a small involvement with the NGO before)
--- currently on-site in Africa (not sure if it means anything)
--- $ figures are very small & project is still at proposal stage

Personal Essay
- A few things to distinguish me + justifying the low GPA
--- Homeless while I was in College + worked 30 hrs/wk
--- Found my way into a sweatshop in China after high school

References
- Harvard Ph.D
- Harvard MPA

Post MBA
- Starting an international social business focusing on solving education problems in developing countries using cutting-edge technology

Target Schools
- Harvard, Stanford, other (top 10 global)
- Applying Jan deadline (R2 Harvard)

Concerns
- General lack of leadership experience except the current volunteering role
- All my work experience lack prestige. The non-profit is small. The tech company I was at is not the Big 4.
- Can't really wait a year. The full-time volunteering gig is precarious. If I can't get in this year, my next career move will have to be a step back progression wise.
- The personal essay doesn't have a lot going with regards to leadership potential. Not sure if my profile is strong enough without highlighting these particularities.
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Hi , u have a pretty good profile.

However only a profile doesn't sum up an application . Every single aspect matters. Being an Indian IIT engineering student is a competitive pool. You should throughly analyse on weak areas and apply in R2.
Considering your pool ideal GMAT score should be 740+ for a safer side.

Try to get a better score
GPA could be a bummer - did u face any obstacles ? any story behind it.


Essays - get into a depth of what each school values and then create an essay accordingly. Ideally it takes 5-7 drafts to get the perfect essay. Self analyse and focus on explaining more than what you are in your resume or other applications factors.

wish you luck !!!
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Hi everyone, I'm in my senior year of Engineering at one of (if not the) best Engineering schools in Canada (think Waterloo, U of T) thinking of applying to these programs now and perhaps again after a few years if I'm not successful.

**MBA Info**

* ***Why I want an MBA:*** Being in the tech industry, I'm interested in pivoting to tech consulting at MBB or VC in the future.

**Background**

* ***Work experience:***
* *I've done internships at big and small tech companies (including Facebook, Airbnb, Pinterest, Stripe) in Software Engineering and Product Management roles.*
* Heading to a tech unicorn (think Lyft, Uber, Stripe, Pinterest, Robinhood) as a Software Engineer after graduating from college.

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* ***Extra curriculars and other experience:***
* Volunteered at local food bank for the better part of a year now.
* I do website design and maintenance for the Innocence Project in my area (this is a social cause I'm passionate about because of some family history here).
* **Undergrad school/major:** Electrical and Computer Engineering major at Tier 1 Engineering school in Canada
* **Race/nationality:** Pakistani-Canadian (born in Pakistan, grew up in Canada)
* **Gender:** Male

**Stats**

* ***GMAT Score:*** 740
* ***Undergrad GPA:*** So this is where I'm confused. My school isn't on a 4.0 scale, but we have percentages instead. 1st and 2nd year I did not do so well and got averages in the mid-60s. I did have extenuating circumstances because my father suffered a heart attack during this time and it was a major burden on my shoulders. So much so that, when in the middle of my 2nd year he was no longer able to work, I withdrew from school for one year in the middle of my 2nd year to work for a year to pay the bills. Came back and in 3rd year I got averages in the mid-70s, which is a Good standing at my school. In 4th year I got averages in the mid to high 80s, which is an Excellent standing.
* Not sure how much my circumstances matter, but being from a family with limited means and being a first-generation college student coupled with some bad cards dealt to me led to poorer performance for the beginning part of my undergrad.
* I'm hoping that my upwards trend in my undergrad performance is a good signal for them, coupled with my GMAT score, which I'm willing to write again to get an even better score.

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I'd appreciate any feedback you all have, including things I could do to make myself more competitive in the time that I have before applications now, and perhaps things I could do to make myself more competitive in 3-4 years out of college if I apply again as a regular applicant.

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Hi Guys,

Great discussion and insight. Just wanted to post my profile here and see your thoughts on my chances?

Graduated from Cal Poly SLO as an Electrical Engineer. GPA 3.2 (reason for low GPA is because I tried to stay active in the college culture and maintain a heavy schedule filled with extra circulars)
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1) VP of my fraternity
2) Social Chair of National Society of Leadership and Success
3) Club Soccer
4) Post college; did some community work with the Mayor for street adjustments and updates

GMAT score is 710 (49Q 36V).

I have 2 years of work experience at 2 top engineering firms.
Looking to get into Investment Banking and aiming to do my MBA at Duke, Harvard, NYU, Cornell, Yale
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Hi everyone, I'm in my senior year of Engineering at one of (if not the) best Engineering schools in Canada (think Waterloo, U of T) thinking of applying to these programs now and perhaps again after a few years if I'm not successful.

**MBA Info**

* ***Why I want an MBA:*** Being in the tech industry, I'm interested in pivoting to tech consulting at MBB or VC in the future.

**Background**

* ***Work experience:***
* *I've done internships at big and small tech companies (including Facebook, Airbnb, Pinterest, Stripe) in Software Engineering and Product Management roles.*
* Heading to a tech unicorn (think Lyft, Uber, Stripe, Pinterest, Robinhood) as a Software Engineer after graduating from college.

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Schools will definitely take into considering the context for your dip in grades and withdrawal from school.
* ***Extra curriculars and other experience:***
* Volunteered at local food bank for the better part of a year now.
* I do website design and maintenance for the Innocence Project in my area (this is a social cause I'm passionate about because of some family history here).
* **Undergrad school/major:** Electrical and Computer Engineering major at Tier 1 Engineering school in Canada
* **Race/nationality:** Pakistani-Canadian (born in Pakistan, grew up in Canada)
* **Gender:** Male

**Stats**

* ***GMAT Score:*** 740
* ***Undergrad GPA:*** So this is where I'm confused. My school isn't on a 4.0 scale, but we have percentages instead. 1st and 2nd year I did not do so well and got averages in the mid-60s. I did have extenuating circumstances because my father suffered a heart attack during this time and it was a major burden on my shoulders. So much so that, when in the middle of my 2nd year he was no longer able to work, I withdrew from school for one year in the middle of my 2nd year to work for a year to pay the bills. Came back and in 3rd year I got averages in the mid-70s, which is a Good standing at my school. In 4th year I got averages in the mid to high 80s, which is an Excellent standing.
* Not sure how much my circumstances matter, but being from a family with limited means and being a first-generation college student coupled with some bad cards dealt to me led to poorer performance for the beginning part of my undergrad.
* I'm hoping that my upwards trend in my undergrad performance is a good signal for them, coupled with my GMAT score, which I'm willing to write again to get an even better score.

​

I'd appreciate any feedback you all have, including things I could do to make myself more competitive in the time that I have before applications now, and perhaps things I could do to make myself more competitive in 3-4 years out of college if I apply again as a regular applicant.

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Schools definitely consider context for the dip in grades and the year that you withdrew from school, as well as your strong finish. Let them know what was going on during the dip.

I suspect that your chances of acceptance to regular MBA programs in a few years will be much better than to the deferred admit programs.

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Hi Guys,

Great discussion and insight. Just wanted to post my profile here and see your thoughts on my chances?

Graduated from Cal Poly SLO as an Electrical Engineer. GPA 3.2 (reason for low GPA is because I tried to stay active in the college culture and maintain a heavy schedule filled with extra circulars)
Extra circulars;
1) VP of my fraternity
2) Social Chair of National Society of Leadership and Success
3) Club Soccer
4) Post college; did some community work with the Mayor for street adjustments and updates

GMAT score is 710 (49Q 36V).

I have 2 years of work experience at 2 top engineering firms.
Looking to get into Investment Banking and aiming to do my MBA at Duke, Harvard, NYU, Cornell, Yale

UNless you have some phenomenal leadership stories, HBS and Yale are big stretches. YOu have a better shot at Duke and Cornell.
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Hi everyone, I'm in my senior year of Engineering at one of (if not the) best Engineering schools in Canada (think Waterloo, U of T) thinking of applying to these programs now and perhaps again after a few years if I'm not successful.

**MBA Info**

* ***Why I want an MBA:*** Being in the tech industry, I'm interested in pivoting to tech consulting at MBB or VC in the future.

**Background**

* ***Work experience:***
* *I've done internships at big and small tech companies (including Facebook, Airbnb, Pinterest, Stripe) in Software Engineering and Product Management roles.*
* Heading to a tech unicorn (think Lyft, Uber, Stripe, Pinterest, Robinhood) as a Software Engineer after graduating from college.

​

* ***Extra curriculars and other experience:***
* Volunteered at local food bank for the better part of a year now.
* I do website design and maintenance for the Innocence Project in my area (this is a social cause I'm passionate about because of some family history here).
* **Undergrad school/major:** Electrical and Computer Engineering major at Tier 1 Engineering school in Canada
* **Race/nationality:** Pakistani-Canadian (born in Pakistan, grew up in Canada)
* **Gender:** Male

**Stats**

* ***GMAT Score:*** 740
* ***Undergrad GPA:*** So this is where I'm confused. My school isn't on a 4.0 scale, but we have percentages instead. 1st and 2nd year I did not do so well and got averages in the mid-60s. I did have extenuating circumstances because my father suffered a heart attack during this time and it was a major burden on my shoulders. So much so that, when in the middle of my 2nd year he was no longer able to work, I withdrew from school for one year in the middle of my 2nd year to work for a year to pay the bills. Came back and in 3rd year I got averages in the mid-70s, which is a Good standing at my school. In 4th year I got averages in the mid to high 80s, which is an Excellent standing.
* Not sure how much my circumstances matter, but being from a family with limited means and being a first-generation college student coupled with some bad cards dealt to me led to poorer performance for the beginning part of my undergrad.
* I'm hoping that my upwards trend in my undergrad performance is a good signal for them, coupled with my GMAT score, which I'm willing to write again to get an even better score.

​

I'd appreciate any feedback you all have, including things I could do to make myself more competitive in the time that I have before applications now, and perhaps things I could do to make myself more competitive in 3-4 years out of college if I apply again as a regular applicant.

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Congratulations on a solid GMAT score and quite a bit more work experience than the average 2+2 college senior applicant. As a first gen immigrant college student, you have a compelling story that I believe that you could present with charisma and confidence in the essays. Assuming you employ the right strategic positioning, I think you definitely have a chance at HBS.

International GPA conversions are indeed tricky. It’s hard to know what’s actually going on here. Was your GPA “below average” or was your grading scale just that much less forgiving? Grade inflation (especially at top schools) is very real in the U.S. and usually AdComs know this when comparing international GPAs with US ones. What matters more is *where you were on a relative basis* for the rest of your class at your school. Were you in the top quartile? Top decile? Top percentile? If so, say so, and this converted GPA doesn’t really matter much. You need to be focused on relative ranking.

You can mention your personal struggles and hardships in your essays to the extent that they demonstrate you overcoming adversity but I wouldn’t spend too much time on them (lest you seem “woe is me”). Since your GPA wasn’t ever really that low, you probably don’t want to write about it in the optional essay (that’s something we really only recommend when you fall outside good performance). But if you do decide to take this route by utilizing the optional essay to explain a low GPA, take ownership of what you learned from the academic underperformance and explain why it won’t repeat itself in MBA.

HBS is well aware of schools like U of T and Waterloo so they’ll have an associated “prestige-adjusted ranking” that they’ll apply as well. Top 10% from the U of T is going to fare better in the adcom’s eyes than top 10% from a second-tier state school in the US.

One way to compensate for less-than-stellar undergraduate GPA is to have good academic credentials outside of your undergraduate transcript to show that you can do well on high-stakes testing (e.g., CPA, CFA, other professional licenses, GRE, GMAT, EA, etc.). You have already done this a little bit with your GMAT score.

Your write up here doesn’t show much emphasis on extracurricular activities. This is a problem. Schools want leaders who are going to be engaged outside of the classroom while they are MBA students. They also want alums who are going to be committed to solving challenges in their communities. The way you signal that you are going to be this kind of MBA student and alum is by demonstrating that you are involved in extracurricular activities that are more than just professionally motivated.

Strategic positioning, that is, what you want to do with your life and your career and what kind of MBA student you want to be while you are at Harvard, is the big wild card here. I’m not totally sure what your long-term goals are from this write up. You have many of the “table stakes” characteristics that Harvard is looking for, but to gain acceptance you need to demonstrate that you know exactly where you are headed professionally and that your professional goals are imminently achievable based on your prior demonstrated success.

If talking to an admissions consultant about strategic positioning, school selection, or how to discuss your undergraduate GPA might be helpful to you, feel free to sign up for a free consultation here: https://admissionado.com/free-consultation/
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