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05 Dec 2023, 01:13
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I applied to Carlson in round 2, but now I have to pause due to a few issues. One tricky part is that they said the "Proof of English Language Proficiency" that I provided earlier is NOT OK.
I then asked them politely in an email about this issue and also asked, if my document is not ok, then what should I provide? I pointed out that the document mentioned, "The student has gained such oral and written skills in the obligatory English language required by the degree program that are necessary for practicing the profession and for further professional development." My four-year degree was designed in three parts - professional courses, further development courses, and practical training, which I believe is why my school stated that in the document.
They replied to me, but I think they responded in a very unfriendly way! After my reply, they only said my document was wrong and didn't provide any suggestions on what should be provided. I'll quote their reply here so that you guys can see it: "The statement you provided does not indicate that you completed your bachelor's degree program solely in English. The indication that you have 'gained such oral and written skills in the obligatory English language required by the degree programme that are necessary for practising the profession and for further professional development' is not an indication that your program was conducted entirely, and solely, in English, which is what we require."
To be honest, I am applying to several schools like Rice, Darden, UT Dallas, and no other school has such a tricky rule. I remember vividly when I discussed the English proof with RICE admin, they said you just need to tick a box stating you've completed your undergraduate degree in English. That's all! No further requirements.
I also think Carlson is the only one who requires the submission of official GRE/GMAT scores before admission, which seems quite nonsensical as well. I am not in a good financial situation and I have to pay extra costs for that. This seems overly complicated and a waste of money, but I've already paid a $75 application fee... I deeply regret applying to this school, and I mean it!
I hope no one else has to suffer from this school's procedures like I have !! By the way, about my undergraduate studies - I completed my bachelor's degree in Finland where several majors are taught in English. If the administration really worked hard, they should check the school's website, and not require some unnecessary documents just for the so-called "processing" purpose.
I then asked them politely in an email about this issue and also asked, if my document is not ok, then what should I provide? I pointed out that the document mentioned, "The student has gained such oral and written skills in the obligatory English language required by the degree program that are necessary for practicing the profession and for further professional development." My four-year degree was designed in three parts - professional courses, further development courses, and practical training, which I believe is why my school stated that in the document.
They replied to me, but I think they responded in a very unfriendly way! After my reply, they only said my document was wrong and didn't provide any suggestions on what should be provided. I'll quote their reply here so that you guys can see it: "The statement you provided does not indicate that you completed your bachelor's degree program solely in English. The indication that you have 'gained such oral and written skills in the obligatory English language required by the degree programme that are necessary for practising the profession and for further professional development' is not an indication that your program was conducted entirely, and solely, in English, which is what we require."
To be honest, I am applying to several schools like Rice, Darden, UT Dallas, and no other school has such a tricky rule. I remember vividly when I discussed the English proof with RICE admin, they said you just need to tick a box stating you've completed your undergraduate degree in English. That's all! No further requirements.
I also think Carlson is the only one who requires the submission of official GRE/GMAT scores before admission, which seems quite nonsensical as well. I am not in a good financial situation and I have to pay extra costs for that. This seems overly complicated and a waste of money, but I've already paid a $75 application fee... I deeply regret applying to this school, and I mean it!
I hope no one else has to suffer from this school's procedures like I have !! By the way, about my undergraduate studies - I completed my bachelor's degree in Finland where several majors are taught in English. If the administration really worked hard, they should check the school's website, and not require some unnecessary documents just for the so-called "processing" purpose.
05 Dec 2023, 01:31
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Ugh. Sorry. This is quite an unfortunate experience and could’ve been so easily fixed by the admissions steam 😥
I think what they meant to say but did not say, is that you need to take one of the English proficiency tests. TOEFL or IELTS.
Frankly, it’s pretty silly for schools to ask for English proficiency proof when someone can submit a decent GMAT score. My undergrad was in English and I had a diploma that was in English but I still had to take TOEFL. It was an easy test but $150 later I had that done.
It’s quite common for admissions to be silly and require English proficiency if you went to school in a country that doesn’t have English as their primary language. They even require it for Indian graduates 🤷♂️
PS. Carlson is a state school and those tend to be a little bit more quirkier.
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I think what they meant to say but did not say, is that you need to take one of the English proficiency tests. TOEFL or IELTS.
Frankly, it’s pretty silly for schools to ask for English proficiency proof when someone can submit a decent GMAT score. My undergrad was in English and I had a diploma that was in English but I still had to take TOEFL. It was an easy test but $150 later I had that done.
It’s quite common for admissions to be silly and require English proficiency if you went to school in a country that doesn’t have English as their primary language. They even require it for Indian graduates 🤷♂️
PS. Carlson is a state school and those tend to be a little bit more quirkier.
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05 Dec 2023, 01:44
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I agree bb. Find it even more annoying when some nationalities are outright asked to write the ielts/TOEFL without even looking at the applicant's GMAT. Looking at Anderson here..
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All the best for your other applications. I hope you get into every school you're applying to! 
