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Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was
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Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was



This is how I approached this question. Please correct me, if i am wrong

The non-underlined part has Until, so we need 'had' in the underlined portion. So (B) and (D) goes off.

In (C), we have had unequivocally declared... had its source.. this is wrong, so eliminated it.

In (E), 'declaration that' is not very apt when compared to 'declared that'. So E goes.

So A is the correct one.


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A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
keep

B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
need had before declared, out

C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
"had its source in" seems wordy, out

D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
need had before declared, out

E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was
need a perfect tense, out

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Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was



Experts, can you please help me understand why past perfect is absolutely required in this sentence?

Until Roussesu - indicates that there are events that happened before that time.. so should use of past perfect be optional?
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I approached it this way.

Until Rousseau means that Rousseau declared after something happened or not happened. ie, a past event happened before Rousseau declared his opinion.

A past event happening before another should have "HAD" in it... Option A,C,E has it.

declaration in E is not a right word. Its better to have "declared"

Double HAD in option C is not a right delivery.

A remains. In A, the statment gives a proper delivery of idea that Until Rousseau declared, no intellectual had unequivocally(clearly) declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

no intellectual had unequivocally(clearly) declared is a first action. So it has a HAD in it.
Rousseau declared is a second action. So it is in simple past tense.

Please correct me if I am wrong..

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I approached it this way.

Until Rousseau means that Rousseau declared after something happened or not happened. ie, a past event happened before Rousseau declared his opinion.

A past event happening before another should have "HAD" in it... Option A,C,E has it.

declaration in E is not a right word. Its better to have "declared"

Double HAD in option C is not a right delivery.

A remains. In A, the statment gives a proper delivery of idea that Until Rousseau declared, no intellectual had unequivocally(clearly) declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

no intellectual had unequivocally(clearly) declared is a first action. So it has a HAD in it.
Rousseau declared is a second action. So it is in simple past tense.

Please correct me if I am wrong..


Thank you sheolokesh :) Now I understand why the past perfect tense is required.
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Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was



Isnt C a more direct way of saying the statement?

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Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was


Isnt C a more direct way of saying the statement?


There's nothing wrong with the original sentence...

Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

Original sentence has the following correct usages -

1. Use of Past perfect ( With sentence involving Until )
2. Correct subject Verb agreement ( The source - Was )


Correct answer but be (A) , source in is not good in my opinion...
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Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was



Isnt C a more direct way of saying the statement?


No, on the contrary, A is more direct: The source of X is Y.
The following construction would be considered awkward in GMAT: X has its source in Y.

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gabriel87 wrote:
Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was



Isnt C a more direct way of saying the statement?


No, on the contrary, A is more direct: The source of X is Y.
The following construction would be considered awkward in GMAT: X has its source in Y.


Hi sayantanc2k.
confused with the usage of Had.
Word "Until" is enough to show sequence of events.

Why "D" is incorrect.

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Isnt C a more direct way of saying the statement?


No, on the contrary, A is more direct: The source of X is Y.
The following construction would be considered awkward in GMAT: X has its source in Y.


Hi sayantanc2k.
confused with the usage of Had.
Word "Until" is enough to show sequence of events.

Why "D" is incorrect.


I get your point. Some authentic prep sources suggest that with "before" past perfect is redundant. However I have generally observed that with "until" past perfect is used. Following is how I would explain this:

1. To depict a past event that started and ended before another past event (from perspective of the later past event, the previous event is simple past)- redundancy when "before" is used.
2. To depict a past event that started before and continued till another past event ( from perspective of the later past event, the previous event is present perfect) - no redundancy when "until" is used.

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Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was



Until Rousseau requires use of past perfect 'had+verb' ; b,d,e are out

'its' do not have antecedent ; C is out

A is correct

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Until Rousseau no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was social conditioning.

Pay attention to last words "social conditioning" we could eliminate B and C since "...source in social conditioning" is wrong.

"Until Rousseau" requires past perfect tense. D and E are out.

Left only A correct.


A)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was --- Correct
B) no intellectual unequivocally declared that human evil was from a source in
C)no intellectual had unequivocally declared that human evil had its source in
D)no intellectual unequivocally declared that the source of human evil was
E)no intellectual had an unequivocal declaration that the source of human evil was
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