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Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best Candidates to the job. The legislature’s move to raise the salary has done nothing to improve the situation, because it was coupled with a ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements.
Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative effect.
Pat’s response to Mel is inadequate in that it
(A) attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members
(B) mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change
(C) attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely by pointing to the absence of negative effects
(D) simply denies Mel’s claim without putting forward any evidence in support of that denial
(E) assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group necessarily benefit all members of that group
Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative effect.
Pat’s response to Mel is inadequate in that it
(A) attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members
(B) mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change
(C) attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely by pointing to the absence of negative effects
(D) simply denies Mel’s claim without putting forward any evidence in support of that denial
(E) assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group necessarily benefit all members of that group
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Hi Punyata
Welcome to gmat club
I'm glad to help.
ANALYZE THE STIMULUS:
Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best Candidates [potential candidates] to the job. The legislature’s move to raise the salary has done nothing to improve the situation, because it was coupled with a ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements.
Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few judges [current members] teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative effect
Pat’s response to Mel is inadequate in that it
ANALYZE EACH ANSWER:
A. attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members.
Correct. Mel talks about potential candidates, however Pat talks about current members
B. mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change
Wrong. The argument does NOT talk about the cause of a change (the legislature’s move to raise the salary).
C. attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely by pointing to the absence of negative effects
Wrong. Pat just says the ban will have little or no negative effect. He does NOT talk anything about positive effect.
D. simply denies Mel’s claim without putting forward any evidence in support of that denial
Wrong. TEMPTING but wrong. Pat denies Mel’s claim WITH evidence in support. However, his evidence has problem itself.
E. assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group necessarily benefit all members of that group.
Wrong. TEMPTING but wrong. Pat said the change does NOT hurt (will have little or no negative effect) the current member. He did NOT say the change BENEFITS the current member. These logics are totally different..
For example: The new shopping outlet does not have negative effect to shopping malls in downtown. ==> It does not mean the new shopping outlet has positive effect to shopping malls in downtown.
TAKE AWAY:
Be aware of reverse logics
A does NOT hurt B ==> does not mean A supports B
A does NOT support B ==> does not mean A hurts B
Hope it helps.
Welcome to gmat club
I'm glad to help.ANALYZE THE STIMULUS:
Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best Candidates [potential candidates] to the job. The legislature’s move to raise the salary has done nothing to improve the situation, because it was coupled with a ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements.
Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few judges [current members] teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative effect
Pat’s response to Mel is inadequate in that it
ANALYZE EACH ANSWER:
A. attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members.
Correct. Mel talks about potential candidates, however Pat talks about current members
B. mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change
Wrong. The argument does NOT talk about the cause of a change (the legislature’s move to raise the salary).
C. attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely by pointing to the absence of negative effects
Wrong. Pat just says the ban will have little or no negative effect. He does NOT talk anything about positive effect.
D. simply denies Mel’s claim without putting forward any evidence in support of that denial
Wrong. TEMPTING but wrong. Pat denies Mel’s claim WITH evidence in support. However, his evidence has problem itself.
E. assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group necessarily benefit all members of that group.
Wrong. TEMPTING but wrong. Pat said the change does NOT hurt (will have little or no negative effect) the current member. He did NOT say the change BENEFITS the current member. These logics are totally different..
For example: The new shopping outlet does not have negative effect to shopping malls in downtown. ==> It does not mean the new shopping outlet has positive effect to shopping malls in downtown.
TAKE AWAY:
Be aware of reverse logics
A does NOT hurt B ==> does not mean A supports B
A does NOT support B ==> does not mean A hurts B
Hope it helps.
Updated on: 01 Feb 2022, 12:36
Originally posted by ReedArnoldMPREP on 07 Jan 2022, 08:41.
Last edited by ReedArnoldMPREP on 01 Feb 2022, 12:36, edited 1 time in total.
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It might help to see a different argument made that uses the same logic. Let's pretend Mel and Pat are two owners of a popular sports franchize.
Mel: We need to get better players. We don't offer high enough pay to get the best players to join our team. You want to raise the amount of money we offer, but that's not helpful, because at the same time you're putting it in the contract that they aren't allowed be in commercials!"
"Pat: That doesn't matter. Our players aren't in commercials anyway."
Written like this, the problem might be more obvious. "Wait, Pat... we're not talking about our *current* players. We're trying to get *new* players. Maybe those players really want to be in commercials. Maybe our players aren't in commercials because they aren't good enough to merit such business opportunities. If you don't allow the new, best players to be in commercials, they STILL won't play for us, even if our salary increases..."
C is very tempting. But the absence of negative effects isn't really Pat's flaw. Plus, Pat acknowledges there could be '*little* negative effect.' He doesn't outright argue there will be *no* negative effect (and that's what 'absence' means... You have to be very literal with GMAT language! "An absence of a negative effect" doesn't mean "The negatives are so miniscule it's worth it." It actually means "There is *no* negative effect." Pat does say that might be possible, but he also says there could be a *small* negative effect, but he clearly thinks it's so small it doesn't matter.
But it DOES matter. Because while it might be only a 'little' negative effect for CURRENT judges, it could be a HUGE negative effect for the NEW judges, the 'best candidates,' they are attempting to recruit.
