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On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

(1) The distance of 'a' from zero is greater than the distance of 'c' from zero.
(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.

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Bunuel, VeritasKarishma, chetan2u

The solution provided in the thread is good, and I find it doable till 2 equations that is for options 'A' and 'B'...from 'C' onward it got difficult, I mean during actual exam its difficult to find the numbers to fit in YES/NO both situations.
Kindly help to solve the question in an easier and more doable method.
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Statement 1: There are 2 possibilities. Either 0 lies between a and c OR 0 lies to the right hand side of C. So statement 1 is not sufficient. Option A and D are eliminated

Statement 2: There again 2 possibilities. Either 0 lies to the left hand side of b or right hand side of b and 0 lies between a and c only when 0 is in left hand side of b. Not sufficient. Option B is eliminated.

when we introduce statement 2 to 2 possibilities of statement 1, we will find that 0 cannot lie to the left hand side of b. So 0 is on right side of b and since distance between b and c is smaller than half the distance of a and c, we know that 0 will also lie on right hand side of B. Thus we know the answer to the question "if 0 lies between a and c".

C is the answer.
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On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

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(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.

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---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------

On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

(1) The distance of 'a' from zero is greater than the distance of 'c' from zero.

We can have 0 at 3 different places relative to 'a' and 'c'.

Case 1: -----0----- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------0------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 3: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c -----0----

But the first case is not possible since then a would be definitely closer to 0 than c would be. Cases 2 and 3 are both possible so this stmnt alone is not sufficient.

(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.
If the distance between c and a is the same as distance between c and -b, -b can be at 2 places around c such that

Case 1: ---------- a and -b ----------------0---------------- b ----------- c ---------
a and -b are at the same point and 0 is between a and c somewhere.

Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------- 0 ------------------------- (-b) -----------
-b is to the other side of c (same distance away as a is to c) and 0 is somewhere to the right of c.

Again, 2 cases are possible so this stmtn alone is not sufficient.

Using both,

Case 1 of stmnt 2 becomes invalid because distance of a from 0 is equal to distance of b from 0 and hence this is less than distance of c from 0. This contradicts stmnt 1.
Only case 2 of stmnt 2 is possible in which 0 is to the right of c.
Hence, this is sufficient.

Answer (C)

Hello VeritasKarishma Bunuel

How can (-b) be to the right of (b) on the number line??
(Is it because b can be a negative number and then negative of negative number would be a positive number?)

TIA!
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On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

(1) The distance of 'a' from zero is greater than the distance of 'c' from zero.
(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.

Source: ExpertsGlobal

---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------

On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

(1) The distance of 'a' from zero is greater than the distance of 'c' from zero.

We can have 0 at 3 different places relative to 'a' and 'c'.

Case 1: -----0----- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------0------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 3: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c -----0----

But the first case is not possible since then a would be definitely closer to 0 than c would be. Cases 2 and 3 are both possible so this stmnt alone is not sufficient.

(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.
If the distance between c and a is the same as distance between c and -b, -b can be at 2 places around c such that

Case 1: ---------- a and -b ----------------0---------------- b ----------- c ---------
a and -b are at the same point and 0 is between a and c somewhere.

Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------- 0 ------------------------- (-b) -----------
-b is to the other side of c (same distance away as a is to c) and 0 is somewhere to the right of c.

Again, 2 cases are possible so this stmtn alone is not sufficient.

Using both,

Case 1 of stmnt 2 becomes invalid because distance of a from 0 is equal to distance of b from 0 and hence this is less than distance of c from 0. This contradicts stmnt 1.
Only case 2 of stmnt 2 is possible in which 0 is to the right of c.
Hence, this is sufficient.

Answer (C)

Hello VeritasKarishma Bunuel

How can (-b) be to the right of (b) on the number line??
(Is it because b can be a negative number and then negative of negative number would be a positive number?)

TIA!

Exactly! If b can be negative, then -b can be positive!
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Those are two separate variables so shouldn't they be two different points?
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How can we assume in Statement 2, Case 1 that a and -b are at the same point?
Those are two separate variables so shouldn't they be two different points?

Hi AkshitaMishra

Sorry for the intrusion but here is the explanation to your doubt

Statement 1: confirms that a c is closer to 0 than a

CAse 1: a = -5, c = -1 i.e. 0 is NOT between a and c
CAse 2: a = -5, c = +1 i.e. 0 is between a and c
NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.

Also we know that a < b < c (from graph)

CAse 1: a = -5, c = -1 and b = -3 i.e. 0 is NOT between a and c
CAse 2: a = -5, c = +6 and b = 5 i.e. 0 is between a and c
NOT SUFFICIENT

Combining the statements

Case 2 of statement 2 is not invalid because distance of a from 0 is not greater than distance of c from 0

i.e. 0 can NOT be between a and c

SUFFICIENT

Answer: Option C
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How can we assume in Statement 2, Case 1 that a and -b are at the same point?
Those are two separate variables so shouldn't they be two different points?

AkshitaMishra

Say on the number line, c is at 10 and a is at 4. This is what they look like on the number line:

________________________ (a = 4)_____________________(c = 10)________________

The distance between c and a is 6 units.

Now if another number, -b is also 6 units away from c (=10), where will -b lie? It can either lie at 4 or at 16.
So -b could lie at the same point as 'a' or same number of units to the right of 'c'.
Also the diagram shows a, b and c as distinct points but that doesn't mean that -b (which is different number) cannot overlap with any of these points.
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On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

(1) The distance of 'a' from zero is greater than the distance of 'c' from zero.
(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.

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---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------

On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

(1) The distance of 'a' from zero is greater than the distance of 'c' from zero.

We can have 0 at 3 different places relative to 'a' and 'c'.

Case 1: -----0----- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------0------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 3: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c -----0----

But the first case is not possible since then a would be definitely closer to 0 than c would be. Cases 2 and 3 are both possible so this stmnt alone is not sufficient.

(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.
If the distance between c and a is the same as distance between c and -b, -b can be at 2 places around c such that

Case 1: ---------- a and -b ----------------0---------------- b ----------- c ---------
a and -b are at the same point and 0 is between a and c somewhere.

Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------- 0 ------------------------- (-b) -----------
-b is to the other side of c (same distance away as a is to c) and 0 is somewhere to the right of c.

Again, 2 cases are possible so this stmtn alone is not sufficient.

Using both,

Case 1 of stmnt 2 becomes invalid because distance of a from 0 is equal to distance of b from 0 and hence this is less than distance of c from 0. This contradicts stmnt 1.
Only case 2 of stmnt 2 is possible in which 0 is to the right of c.
Hence, this is sufficient.

Answer (C)

Hi Karishma,

A very well written explanation.

I am not able to understand the following part

Quote:

Using both,

Case 1 of stmnt 2 becomes invalid because distance of a from 0 is equal to distance of b from 0 and hence this is less than distance of c from 0. This contradicts stmnt 1.
Only case 2 of stmnt 2 is possible in which 0 is to the right of c.
Hence, this is sufficient.


Can you please help me understand how both statements work together?

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On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

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(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.

Source: ExpertsGlobal

---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------

On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

(1) The distance of 'a' from zero is greater than the distance of 'c' from zero.

We can have 0 at 3 different places relative to 'a' and 'c'.

Case 1: -----0----- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------0------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 3: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c -----0----

But the first case is not possible since then a would be definitely closer to 0 than c would be. Cases 2 and 3 are both possible so this stmnt alone is not sufficient.

(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.
If the distance between c and a is the same as distance between c and -b, -b can be at 2 places around c such that

Case 1: ---------- a and -b ----------------0---------------- b ----------- c ---------
a and -b are at the same point and 0 is between a and c somewhere.

Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------- 0 ------------------------- (-b) -----------
-b is to the other side of c (same distance away as a is to c) and 0 is somewhere to the right of c.

Again, 2 cases are possible so this stmtn alone is not sufficient.

Using both,

Case 1 of stmnt 2 becomes invalid because distance of a from 0 is equal to distance of b from 0 and hence this is less than distance of c from 0. This contradicts stmnt 1.
Only case 2 of stmnt 2 is possible in which 0 is to the right of c.
Hence, this is sufficient.

Answer (C)


Hi KarishmaB,

Cant we have 0 inbetween B and C since that would also mean distance of a from zero would be greater than distance from C and form a 4th case ?

Is my assumption wrong?

Let me know, regards

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On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

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(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.

Source: ExpertsGlobal

---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------

On the number line shown, is zero between 'a' and 'c'?

(1) The distance of 'a' from zero is greater than the distance of 'c' from zero.

We can have 0 at 3 different places relative to 'a' and 'c'.

Case 1: -----0----- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------0------------- b ----------- c ---------
Case 3: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c -----0----

But the first case is not possible since then a would be definitely closer to 0 than c would be. Cases 2 and 3 are both possible so this stmnt alone is not sufficient.

(2) The distance between 'c' and 'a' is the same as the distance between 'c' and '-b'.
If the distance between c and a is the same as distance between c and -b, -b can be at 2 places around c such that

Case 1: ---------- a and -b ----------------0---------------- b ----------- c ---------
a and -b are at the same point and 0 is between a and c somewhere.

Case 2: ---------- a ---------------------------------- b ----------- c ---------- 0 ------------------------- (-b) -----------
-b is to the other side of c (same distance away as a is to c) and 0 is somewhere to the right of c.

Again, 2 cases are possible so this stmtn alone is not sufficient.

Using both,

Case 1 of stmnt 2 becomes invalid because distance of a from 0 is equal to distance of b from 0 and hence this is less than distance of c from 0. This contradicts stmnt 1.
Only case 2 of stmnt 2 is possible in which 0 is to the right of c.
Hence, this is sufficient.

Answer (C)


Hi KarishmaB,

Cant we have 0 inbetween B and C since that would also mean distance of a from zero would be greater than distance from C and form a 4th case ?

Is my assumption wrong?

Let me know, regards

Sunaad

Sure it can be but it is irrelevant since in our statement 1, we are only told about a and c and our question asks us only about a and c. Hence b is irrelevant in this context. The point is whether 0 is to the left of a, between a and c or to the right of c.
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