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# What number is 6 more than x + y ? (1) y is 3 less than x. (2) y is t

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What number is 6 more than x + y ?

(1) y is 3 less than x.
(2) y is twice x.

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26 Apr 2019, 14:48
Bunuel wrote:
What number is 6 more than x + y ?

(1) y is 3 less than x.
(2) y is twice x.

DS47502.01

We're asked to calculate x + y + 6 so we need to know x + y.
We'll look for the relevant information, a Logical approach.

(1) gives y = x - 3, not what we need. Insufficient.
(2) gives y = 2x, still not what we need. Insufficient.
Together is 2 equations with 2 variables, sufficient to calculate both x and y so enough to calculate x+y.
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27 Apr 2019, 07:15
Bunuel wrote:
What number is 6 more than x + y ?

(1) y is 3 less than x.
(2) y is twice x.

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#1
y=x-3
y+x ; 2x-3 ; x= 3/2
insufficeint
#2
y=2x
3x from x+y
insufficient
from 1 &2
we know
2x=x-3
x=-3 so -3+6 ; 3
IMO C sufficient
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Updated on: 19 May 2019, 08:24
Bunuel wrote:
What number is 6 more than x + y ?

(1) y is 3 less than x.
(2) y is twice x.

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The original question: $$x+y+6=?$$
The rephrased question: $$x+y=?$$

1) We know that $$y=x-3$$ and can use the statement information to further rephrase the question.

$$x+x-3=?$$

Since $$x$$ can be any real number, we can't get a unique value to answer the further rephrased question. $$\implies$$ Insufficient

2) We know that $$y=2x$$ and can use the statement information to further rephrase the question.

$$x+2x=?$$

Since $$x$$ can be any real number, we can't get a unique value to answer the further rephrased question. $$\implies$$ Insufficient

1&2) The system of equations $$y=x-3$$ and $$y=2x$$ has a unique solution. Thus, we could get a unique value to answer the rephrased question. $$\implies$$ Sufficient

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27 Apr 2019, 08:55
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Bunuel wrote:
What number is 6 more than x + y ?

(1) y is 3 less than x.
(2) y is twice x.

Target question: What is the value of x + y + 6?

Statement 1: y is 3 less than x.
We can write: y = x - 3
There are several values of x and y that satisfy this equation. Here are two:
Case a: x = 3 and y = 0. In this case, the answer to the target question is x + y + 6 = 3 + 0 + 6 = 9
Case b: x = 4 and y = 1. In this case, the answer to the target question is x + y + 6 = 4 + 1 + 6 = 11
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: y is twice x.
We can write: y = 2x
There are several values of x and y that satisfy this equation. Here are two:
Case a: x = 1 and y = 2. In this case, the answer to the target question is x + y + 6 = 1 + 2 + 6 = 9
Case b: x = 2 and y = 4. In this case, the answer to the target question is x + y + 6 = 2 + 4 + 6 = 12
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 2 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statements 1 and 2 combined
Statement 1 tells us that y = x - 3
Statement 2 tells us that y = 2x
We have 2 DIFFERENT linear equations with 2 variables.
Since we COULD solve the system for x and y, we COULD determine the value of x + y + 6
ASIDE: Although we COULD solve the system of equations, we would never waste valuable time on test day doing so. We need only determine that we COULD answer the target question.

Since we COULD answer the target question with certainty, the combined statements are SUFFICIENT

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07 May 2019, 18:37
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We need to determine 6 + x + y.

Statement One Alone:

y = x - 3

We do not have enough information to determine x, y or x + y. Statement one alone is not sufficient to answer the question.

Statement Two Alone:

y is twice x.

Once again, we do not have enough information to determine x, y or x + y. Statement two alone is not sufficient to answer the question.

Statements One and Two Together:

Using substitution, we have:

2x = x - 3

x = -3, so y = -6, and hence x + y + 6 = -3.

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Re: What number is 6 more than x + y ? (1) y is 3 less than x. (2) y is t  [#permalink]

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16 May 2019, 14:33
Hi All,

We're asked what number is 6 MORE than (X+Y). This question can be approached in a couple of different ways, including by TESTing VALUES. It's worth noting that the prompt does NOT place any restrictions on X and Y, so they could be positive, negative, 0, fractions, etc.

(1) Y is 3 LESS than X.

IF....
X=3 and Y=0, then the answer to the question is 3+0+6 = 9
X=4 and Y=1, then the answer to the question is 4+1+6 = 11
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT

(2) Y is TWICE X.
IF....
X=1 and Y=2, then the answer to the question is 1+2+6 = 9
X=2 and Y=4, then the answer to the question is 2+4+6 = 12
Fact 2 is INSUFFICIENT

Combined, we know...
Y is 3 LESS than X.
Y is TWICE X.

At this point, you might wonder how Y is LESS than X while also being TWICE X. This can happen when the variables are NEGATIVE. We can create the following two equations with the given information:
Y = X - 3
Y = 2X

This is a 'System' of equations (2 variables and 2 unique equations), so we CAN solve for the exact values of X and Y. They are:
2X = X - 3
X = -3
Y = -3 - 3 = -6

Thus, the answer to the question is (-3)+(-6)+6 = -3
Combined, SUFFICIENT

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