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Answer is corrected to E. Here is the explanation -

If there be 1 litre of acid in 4 litres of mixture, then in



That is a strange solution -- naturally if we just guess the right answer in advance, that we started with 4 litres in total, then it becomes easy to check that we started with 4 litres in total. But how did we decide we started with 4 litres? That seems to me the whole point of the problem. We're not free to pick an arbitrary starting number here, and if we pick any other starting total besides 4 litres, the percentages won't work out correctly.

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Hi IanStewart

I think assuming values will take you to answer more in less but we can also reach to answer by solving through equation method - Here is how I came to the right answer using equations -

Let a be the acid in liters and w be the water in liters,
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using Statement 1 - \(\frac{a}{a+w+1}\) = \(\frac{1}{5}\), solving we get - 4a = w+1 --------------(1)

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using Statement 2 - \(\frac{a+1}{a+1+w+1}\) = \(\frac{1}{3}\)

solving we get -
3a + 3 = a+w+2
2a +2 = w + 1 = 4a ------------( substituting from 1)
a = 1 , so w = 3

Hence, original concentration of Acid = \(\frac{1}{4}*100\) = 25%
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WarriorWithin wrote:
When one litre of water is added to a mixture of acid and water, the new mixture contains 20% acid. When one litre of acid is added to the new mixture, then the resulting mixture contains \(33 \frac{1}{3}\) acid. The percentage of acid in the original mixture was

A. 20%
B. 22%
C. 23%
D. 24%
E. 25%


At the end of the first stage, the amount of acid is equal to 1/5 of the total mixture:
\(A = \frac{1}{5}T\)
\(5A = T\)

In the second stage, the amount of acid and the total each increase by 1 liter, with the result that the increased amount of acid is equal to 1/3 of the new total:
\(A+1 = \frac{1}{3}(T+1)\)
\(3A+3 = T+1\)
\(3A+2 = T\)

Since 5A=T and 3A+2=T, we get:
5A = 3A+2
2A = 2
A = 1
T = 5A = 5

Since the total at the end of the first stage is 5 liters, the original amount of mixture -- before the addition of one liter of water -- is 4 liters.
Thus:
\(\frac{A}{original-mixture} = \frac{1}{4} =\) 25%

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Suppose the fraction of the original mixture that is acid is p, and we start with T litres in total. Then we have pT litres of acid, and the rest, T - pT litres, must be water.

When we add one litre of water, we still have pT litres of acid, and now we have T - pT + 1 litres of water. We know this is now 20% acid (and so is 80% water), so acid and water are now in a 1 to 4 ratio, and T - pT + 1 = 4pT.

When we next add one litre of acid, we still have T - pT + 1 litres of water, but now we have pT + 1 litres of acid. If we now have a solution which is 1/3 acid, then acid and water are in a 1 to 2 ratio, and T - pT + 1 = 2(pT + 1).

Since we now know T - pT + 1 is equal both to 4pT and to 2(pT + 1), those must equal each other, so

4pT = 2pT + 2
pT = 1

and we started out with 1 litre of acid. We know after adding 1 litre of water, the solution is 20% acid, and since we have 1 litre of acid, we must then have 4 litres of water. So in the initial situation, before adding the 1 litre of water, we had 3 litres of water and 1 litre of acid, and a 25% acid solution.

The OA currently listed in the first post is "C", which is not correct.



Hi IanStewart

Can you please explain the highlighted bit above? I understood till the part where we get pT = 1. I'm confused with the rest.

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Hi IanStewart

Can you please explain the highlighted bit above? I understood till the part where we get pT = 1. I'm confused with the rest.

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pT in my solution was the amount of acid we started with. So when I find pT = 1, that means we started with 1 litre of acid. Say we also had w litres of water to start with.

We know when we add 1 litre of water, which will give us 1 litre of acid and w+1 litres of water, we get a solution that is 20% acid, or 1/5 acid. If the solution is 1/5 acid, the ratio of acid to water is 1 to 4. We have 1 litre of acid, so we must have 4 litres of water, and w + 1 = 4, so w = 3, and we started with 3 litres of water.
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When one litre of water is added to a mixture of acid and water, the new mixture contains 20% acid. When one litre of acid is added to the new mixture, then the resulting mixture contains \(33 \frac{1}{3}\) acid. The percentage of acid in the original mixture was

A. 20%
B. 22%
C. 23%
D. 24%
E. 25%


Let the initial weights be a and w.
When one litre of water is added to a mixture of acid and water, the new mixture contains 20% acid
=> a:(w+1)=20:80=1:4
4a=w+1.....(I)

When one litre of acid is added to the new mixture, then the resulting mixture contains \(33 \frac{1}{3}\) % acid.
Be careful of the word NEW mixture.
=> (a+1):(w+1)=1:2
2a+2=w+1.....(II)

From I and II, we get 4a=2a+2 => a=1, and, therefore, w=3.
% of a in a+w = \(100*\frac{1}{1+3}=25\)%

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