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Gatehouse Admissions partners closely with business school applicants targeting the most competitive MBA programs. Through establishing deep partnerships, providing unrelenting support, and infusing expertise into each step of the application process, Gatehouse Admissions helps its clients put their best foot forward in their business school applications. Gatehouse Admissions provides both Full Support services and A La Carte services, including mock interview sessions and hourly services.
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AI Super-Summary of Customer Reviews for Gatehouse*

Several reviewers shared their positive experiences working with various admissions consultants from Gatehouse Admissions for their MBA applications. They praised consultants like Rachel Nelson, April Stewart, Liza Weale, and Eric for their strategic guidance, attention to detail, and personalized advice that helped applicants craft compelling narratives and prepare thoroughly for interviews. Reviewers highlighted their successful admissions into top business schools like Harvard, Wharton, and Booth, often with scholarships, attributing this success to the counselors' dedication and expertise. Despite challenges like tight deadlines or low test scores, these consultants were credited with elevating their clients' applications and providing unwavering support throughout the process.
13 users mention "Admitted"
  • "I was accepted to HBS..." Read more
  • "accepted to 3 out of the 4 schools that Alex supported me on for R2 - Booth, Kellogg, and Haas..." Read more
  • "heading to Wharton in the fall..." Read more
  • "Admitted to Wharton, Columbia..." Read more
  • "received offers from Wharton, Columbia, and Stern..." Read more
  • "I applied to Booth, Columbia, Sloan, and Wharton..." Read more
  • "Attending HBS Fall of 2024 and admitted to Wharton..." Read more
  • "admitted to both Booth and Kellogg..." Read more
  • "applied for two top 5 schools and got into both..." Read more
  • "Admitted to HBS and Wharton..." Read more
  • "Admitted to HBS; GBS; Wharton (with $55k per year scholarship)..." Read more
  • "HBS / GSB admit..." Read more
  • "admitted to a handful of programs with scholarships..." Read more
12 users mention "Detail-Oriented"
  • "'Experience Inventory' ... very thorough (10+ pg) word document..." Read more
  • "meticulously detailed and organized..." Read more
  • "edited scrupulously..." Read more
  • "attention to detail, particularly when it comes to essay editing..." Read more
  • "help with the essay writing portion..." Read more
  • "meticulously reviewed every aspect..." Read more
  • "guided me through the entire writing process..." Read more
  • "thoughtfully crafted every single line..." Read more
  • "intelligent, knowledgeable, organized, empathetic, and refreshingly direct..." Read more
  • "timely, honest, encouraging, and darn good at what she does..." Read more
  • "help me articulate my accomplishments, projects, and performance..." Read more
  • "creating structure to each component of the application process..." Read more
11 users mention "Full Service"
  • "working with Rachel throughout the MBA application process..." Read more
  • "working with him on my MBA admissions..." Read more
  • "Working with Liza..." Read more
  • "was an invaluable partner in getting me there..." Read more
  • "partner and advisor in my admission journey..." Read more
  • "successful business school application journey..." Read more
  • "an absolutely essential part of my application success..." Read more
  • "Working with Laura was an absolute dream..." Read more
  • "great to work with over the past few months..." Read more
  • "helping me put my best foot forward..." Read more
  • "success to Marcus and the Gatehouse team..." Read more
7 users mention "Supportive"
  • "Rachel was an amazing thought partner throughout the entire process..." Read more
  • "provide emotional support when I needed it most..." Read more
  • "dedicated to your cause and success..." Read more
  • "feedback in a confidence-building way..." Read more
  • "made me feel that I got all that i put into the process..." Read more
  • "Liza was my lifeline and true advisor..." Read more
  • "gave me the confidence to push forward with my applications..." Read more
6 users mention "Scholarship Awarded"
  • "$150K in total merit scholarship..." Read more
  • "Columbia with a substantial scholarship..." Read more
  • "each accompanied by significant merit-based aid..." Read more
  • "accepted at Columbia, with a $50k merit scholarship..." Read more
  • "scholarship I was able to receive..." Read more
  • "admitted to several other T15 schools with scholarship..." Read more
6 users mention "Career Transition"
  • "from a traditional MBB consulting / Private Equity investing background..." Read more
  • "provided guidance on what I could do to stand out..." Read more
  • "I had a unique plan distinct from other applicants..." Read more
  • "previously applied for 2+2..." Read more
  • "overrepresented background..." Read more
  • "traditional applicant (MBB background)..." Read more
5 users mention "US MBA Programs"
  • "application processes across the schools I was considering..." Read more
  • "small group of schools..." Read more
  • "ensuring that my application was as strong as possible..." Read more
  • "unlock the keys to success in the bschool application process..." Read more
  • "successful application to business school..." Read more
4 users mention "Time Management"
  • "craft a working cadence and interim deadlines..." Read more
  • "comprehensive timeline with milestones..." Read more
  • "organizational skills and holding me accountable to our timeline..." Read more
  • "Every Sunday I received a weekly action plan..." Read more
4 users mention "Responsive"
  • "meaningful same-day essay feedback..." Read more
  • "provided thorough and efficient feedback in each step of the process..." Read more
  • "consistently replying to emails within 24 to 48 hours..." Read more
  • "remarkably accessible, ensuring that I had support..." Read more
3 users mention "Top-Tier School Focus"
  • "successfully went through this process himself..." Read more
  • "get into my dream school, Wharton..." Read more
  • "true difference-maker..." Read more
2 users mention "Industry Specialist"
  • "4 years work experience in Private Equity..." Read more
  • "experience working and living in Europe..." Read more
2 users mention "Non-traditional Backgrounds"
  • "non-traditional industry (I work in pharmaceuticals manufacturing)..." Read more
  • "frame my untraditional background..." Read more
2 users mention "Value for Money"
  • "tremendously enjoyed working with her and couldn t recommend her enough..." Read more
  • "don't believe I would have achieved the same outcome without her support..." Read more
2 users mention "Waitlist Support"
1 users mention "Europe MBA Programs"
  • "heading to London Business School..." Read more
1 users mention "Career Changers"
  • "looking to make an industry change into clean energy..." Read more
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January 03, 2020
bschool259

Joined: Jan 03, 2020

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Liza was key to my success!!

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Background: Female, nontraditional professional background, GRE Q160, V167, GPA 3.89

Accepted early decision to CBS.

I had a few introductory phone calls with other consultants, and after speaking with Liza, I knew I wanted to partner with her throughout this process. Liza was positive, but realistic, and it was clear – just during those 30 minutes - that she really wanted me to succeed.

Liza’s guidance at the beginning of the process was key to my success. She helped me define and communicate my short- and long-term goals, which are major components of the application. Liza also helped me identify my strongest and most compelling experiences/stories to focus on in my resume and essays. It was very important to have Liza’s expertise as I jumped into the applications.

Liza adheres to the MBA Mission's essay/application review turnaround deadlines, which she holds her clients and herself to. This policy helped me stay on track. I needed to send Liza my materials by a certain date in order to receive her feedback by a certain date. As someone who could tinker with my essays for hours on end, these deadlines were a huge help and kept me moving forward. Additionally, Liza never missed a turnaround deadline - I knew exactly when I would receive her very thorough comments and responses to my questions!

Lastly, rather late in the game, I was thinking about adding a more competitive school to my Round 1 applications. I was hesitant about adding another school, but when I reached out to Liza about applying, her response was something along the lines of, "Excited for you! Here’s what needs to happen." With Liza's support, I ended up applying and being accepted to this school. I'm thankful to Liza for advising and cheering me on throughout this process!!!

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November 13, 2019
MBA42020

Joined: Mar 07, 2019

Posts: 4

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Verified GMAT Classic score:
690 Q48 V37

Great investment

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First a little background on me: White, male, engineer from a large state school (GPA 3.7 / GMAT: 690 / 4 years of experience upon matriculation). Pre-MBA I have been working at a large management consulting company (Deloitte / Accenture / EY). So all in all, I felt like I had what was a very generic profile.

I knew early on that I would use an admissions consultant. I saw how competitive my pool was and realized that I needed a way to differentiate myself from the rest of the pack. I had a few calls with consultants and told them my list of schools. Some either immediately said that I was reaching too far and others seemed overly optimistic. I decided to go with Liza when she gave me honest feedback and said that while my schools would be challenging, they were doable. Ultimately I signed up for 3 schools (Darden, Fuqua, Johnson) and had these 3 schools as reaches / dream schools. For me it was all or nothing.

Working with Liza was what kept me sane during this challenging process. She did this through 3 key things:

1) Finding and developing my story - Liza did an amazing job of finding a thread in my story that was able to differentiate me from my peers and then pull on that thread. She helped uncovered both personal and professional stories that I had forgotten about and helped me make them come to life. By the time my applications were submitted I had a clear cohesive story that helped me stand out as a unique candidate.

2) Optimism - In a anxiety inducing process where self-doubt can often creep in, Liza was upbeat and provided constructive feedback in a manner that was motivating and made me want to improve. Her energy was contagious and necessary during this application process.

3) Invested - Liza was the first to say good luck and to ask how things went after an interview or admissions decision. I felt that she was just as invested in my applications as I was.

Ultimately I was admitted to my dream schools of Fuqua and Darden and still waiting to hear back from Johnson. As I write this review it comes as no surprise that this is the 99th (or 100th) positive five star review she has gotten. While certainly not a cheap investment, it has paid itself back tenfold.

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November 10, 2019
Applicant21

Joined: Oct 02, 2019

Posts: 1

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Verified GMAT Classic score:
580 Q40 V30

Liza - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

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A bit of background about myself, I'm a Middle Eastern female working in the banking industry with around 7 years of work experience.

At the beginning I was very reluctant to apply for any of the top school's MBA, as I assumed that my application would be easily overlooked. However, upon talking with Liza, she was able to significantly change my views and our conversation encouraged me to apply to my target school.

Working with Liza has helped me identify my goals not only in the essays, but also in real life. Her questions to my essays drafts made me highlight lots of unique points and qualities that did not cross my mind initially, and made my overall story in the essays logical and convincing.

She was able to let me extract the core story behind my essays, and helped me cut all the unnecessary details to represent my story in the most compelling way.

She has as well guided me through the interview process, which is a really stressful period to all applicants. She provided me with interview guidelines and we scheduled one mock interview (through Skype). The mock interview was great and really imitated the real interview! her feedback was very beneficial and helped me show up to the interview very well prepared and confident.

Overall, I would HIGHLY recommend Liza as a partner in the application process. With her guidance, I was gladly accepted to my target school (an ivy league)!

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June 20, 2019
KONYC89

Joined: Aug 10, 2013

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Liza is the best!

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First up, here's a bit of background about me and my candidacy: I'm an American female, from a non-ivy undergrad (3.8 GPA) with slightly below average GMAT (690). Pre MBA, I worked at a global Financial Services company with the goal of landing a spot at a top consulting firm post MBA.

I decided to work with a consultant on my business school apps early on, knowing that I could easily be overlooked if I didn't highlight the right details about my experience when I applied to top programs. I met with representatives from a few companies, however, decided to work with MBA Mission as soon as I met with Liza Weale.

I can't begin to describe how helpful Liza was throughout the entire application process - she helped narrow down my list of target schools, advised which areas of my background were most compelling and worked with me through countless revisions, until my application truly reflected that I was a competitive candidate. Ultimately I ended up working on two applications with Liza - Harvard and Columbia, and I was accepted to CBS! And when I was deciding between a new role and business school, she was a solid sounding board.

Overall, while I valued Liza's input on my application, I also truly enjoyed working with her, which made the process much more painless (dare I say, even enjoyable at times?) Needless to say, if you're planning to spend the money on a consultant, I highly recommend meeting with Liza.

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May 28, 2019
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Joined: Feb 16, 2016

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Liza - best decision ever

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Background: Male, re-applicant, non-business undergrad, 5+ years consulting

After going through rejections the prior year (worked with a different admission consulting company), I knew I needed a different strategy to have a positive outcome this time around. I spoke with a few other companies and most of them were hesitant in taking me on as a client due to low GPA/GMAT stats. Feedback provided in initial consultation was that I should delay re-applying until improving my stats. Despite the feedback, I still felt there was a way for me to be competitive or even be considered for a top MBA program. I first heard about Liza from a friend who worked with her before and spoke nothing but great things. I decided to do an initial consultation with Liza and explained to her of my situation/background/low stats. She was very honest in her feedback saying that it would be difficult to be competitive and I should be prepared for backup options if not accepted again. Liza still felt there was a unique story that I could tell and schools would look at that positively if the story was told in an effective way. Knowing that I was taking a gamble given my low stats, I felt really comfortable after my initial discussion with Liza and knew I wanted to work with her on my applications.

I decided to re-apply to two top-20 programs. Initial activity with Liza was spent on the brainstorming document. I highly encourage you to spend ample time on this document so that Liza has all the personal stories/experiences which she will be reviewing prior to essay drafting. The more information you share in brainstorming, the more material Liza will be able to help you filter to determine what is powerful to include in essays or not. There were personal stories which I included from my childhood which I never thought b-school admissions would want to hear, but Liza was a true advocate in highlighting those experiences which I know helped distinguish myself from the stack of applicants.
Once essay drafting began, I always felt like I was telling the story I wanted to tell. Liza was a great supporter along the way who was not afraid to provide honest feedback if I was heading in the wrong direction or not making sense. Her feedback is extremely valuable and allows you to take a step back and self-reflect. Over the course of drafting versions of essays, I became more and more confident in the story I was telling. Liza would always ask me how I’m feeling about everything before any major deadline we set for ourselves. When it came time for interviews, she would personally send me a note hours before wishing me good luck which was really great. Those moments were very nerve-wrecking, but it was just nice knowing Liza was rooting for me.

My recommenders commended on Liza’s assistance during the recommendation letter drafts. Even though I did not see what they wrote, I knew that Liza knew my story better than anyone else and made sure the recommenders brought out my strengths. She worked closely with my recommenders and helped them frame their stories which resonated well with my overall goals. Knowing that Liza was on my side every step of the way, I know that my recommenders had all the tools and information needed to write an effective letter.

The overall end result was that I was invited to interview to both my programs and accepted and a waitlist to the programs which I was rejected from nearly a year ago. I know this would not have been possible without Liza’s support throughout this entire process. Liza is definitely a gamechanger and helped me represent myself in the best way to admissions committee. If you are in the process of applying for business school, Liza is without a doubt the only way to go. Even though she was my admissions consultant, along the way she became a friend who truly wanted me to succeed. Best decision ever.

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May 22, 2019
MBA2021LIZA

Joined: May 22, 2019

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Verified GMAT Classic score:
760 Q50 V42

Liza = AMAZING

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Background: Male, Ivy Undergrad, banking+PE+ops role
Results: accepted at Harvard and Stanford

I could not speak more highly about working with Liza. I was referred to her by a friend who had used her Round 1 in the same year (I worked with her for Round 2). After doing intro calls with 3-4 consultants it was immediately clear to me that the two of us clicked and she would be the ideal consultant for me to work with. Her spots fill up fast, so if you are interested I would definitely recommend getting a spot with her as soon as possible.

Liza made the very daunting task of answering abstract questions like "What else should we know about you?" and "What matters most?" very personal and attack-able. Her approach makes you actually look within yourself to really think about the right answer. She's incredibly good at asking you questions about how you feel, and then helping dissect that into a key theme or two that make for a great essay and hold true to the person that you actually are.

You'll begin by assembling a detailed brainstorming document. While this does take time, it is well worth the investment. From this, you'll be able to work with Liza to figure out a whole range of potential essay topics, and what's more, you'll also be able to recycle this work for your short answers on the application and also for stories on the interview. It is well worth the time.

In terms of essays, Liza provided appropriate guidance and feedback at all levels. Before I got going writing, we'd make sure there was at least an underlying theme that could be a good essay, so we'd avoid wasting time on a bad topic. Then, she was very open and honest with feedback. Sometimes, she would think the initial draft was nearly complete. Other times, she would provide very specific and helpful feedback and it was back to the drawing board. It was clear that she spent significant time reviewing my essays, and combined that effort with her massive knowledge on MBA applications to help me write the best essays. Each time I would revise, I could tell that the essay was getting stronger, and I thought the end product was not only a great business school essay but also one that was uniquely me and did convey my personality and answer the question appropriately.

I know for a fact I could not have done this stressful process without Liza. She was there to hold my hand as much as I needed each step of the way, and more importantly gave me confidence in myself -- both as an applicant in general and specifically when it came to the application items we were creating together. I could not recommend her more highly. It is clear she pours her heart and soul into her clients and is a huge advocate for them. I greatly looked forward to each of our interactions. TWO THUMBS UP!

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April 27, 2019
MBA2021ADMIT

Joined: Apr 27, 2019

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Stop searching - Liza is the best choice!

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Background: Male, Ivy undergrad, banking + PE

I originally heard about Liza through a few friends who had worked with her, and now I know exactly why they spoke so highly of her. I’m confident that I wouldn’t have been as successful in my application process had it not been for the guidance Liza provided – she’s worth every penny.

Before choosing Liza, I had spoken to a handful of consultants , all of whom had provided me with some helpful thoughts on how I could position myself in the application process. While Liza did the same, her approach was different; Liza was able to establish a genuine connection in a short intro call with me. I could tell she would be honest and forthright with me on my chances while also providing me with a sense of confidence; a true belief that I am capable of getting into a top 5 MBA program. Based on friends’ recommendations and the level of comfort I felt with Liza, I decided to go with her and purchased the complete package.

Going into the process, I felt concerned about my ability to differentiate myself (coming from an overrepresented male/banking/PE background), but Liza quickly put my fears at ease. During the essay process, Liza had an innate ability to bring out exactly why I took the path I did and helped me craft a story around how my upbringing and experiences have shaped my future career goals. Throughout the entire application process, Liza had this uncanny ability to provide constructive criticism in the most enthusiastic way possible; her comments always motivated me to do better, and it made the work that much easier. I was astounded at how my essays transformed between the first drafts and final products, and I really couldn’t have done it without Liza’s guidance.

Above all else, Liza is always on your side. She’s incredibly nice, considerate, and is constantly checking up on you, not just to make sure you’ve submit things on time, but to just say “how are you feeling?” – she provides an extra level of comfort and you get the feeling that she really, truly wants you to succeed. When I was rejected at one of my top schools, Liza was just a call away as a sounding board to hear me vent. When I was accepted at another of my top choices, Liza was ecstatic and overjoyed, just like I was! She’s there every step of the way, and you’ll never feel alone in the process.

Overall, I could not be happier with my experience working with Liza – it was everything I was hoping for and I wholeheartedly recommend her.

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April 24, 2019
Admitted123

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Liza is absolutely the best!

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I’m a woman working at an investment firm. It was fairly late in the cycle when I decided to apply to business school. I was introduced to Liza through a friend who worked with her and got into HBS. From our very first call, Liza had my absolute trust! It couldn’t be any clearer to me that she was someone who was truly dedicated to her job, and she was extremely experienced and knowledgeable. I actually interviewed five other admission consultants from top firms, and she was by far the best – there was no comparison. Unfortunately I was too late in the process and Liza was booked up for the start-to-finish package, and wasn’t able to take me on. So I somberly settled for my second pick at a competing firm. Unfortunately, my second pick full-time consultant regularly missed deadlines which weakened my trust in him along the process. Although Liza was booked up, she graciously agreed to work with me on an hourly basis – even though we were so close to the deadlines. We worked together for about 6 hours, including essay reviews and interview prep. Through the process, Liza encouraged me to dig deeper and reflect more on each of my experiences. She really helped me transform my essays: we removed all the cliche statements and the final product was much more unique and reflective of me as a person. Even once my purchased hours were up, Liza was still available as a resource and answered my emails generously in her own time.

Another thing I would highlight is that MBAmission has a two-day turnaround policy, and they do not miss deadlines. I initially didn’t realize how important this would be. But remember that applying to school is a very stressful period, and you should work with someone who is reliable and who will be there for you when need.

At the end, I ended up getting into both my top choices – and I’m very grateful to Liza for her help. Not only she helped me with my application, but also she was absolutely there for me along the process.

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April 24, 2019
Metsfan1990

Joined: Apr 24, 2019

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Verified GMAT Classic score:
750 Q48 V45

Very helpful

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Hollis was incredibly helpful at helping me articulate my "why MBA" story. It was incredibly valuable to receive her essay commentary, and she successfully narrowed down my essay to its most succinct format. Her advice on what information to highlight in my overall MBA application (and what to exclude) was also critical.

Finally, she added value when it came to navigating the do's and dont's of the application that are less obvious ("informal letters of rec", which letters to use, post mba goal crafting, etc.) Ultimately it is worth using her service if you want to feel like you put forth the best application possible.

I would highly recommend her as a counselor!

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April 23, 2019
mbaadmit43

Joined: Apr 23, 2019

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Verified GMAT Classic score:
730 Q48 V42

Liza Weale is the best. End of discussion.

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Male, Caucasian, 730 GMAT, Top-50 Undergrad College (non-ivy), Large Corporation

Results:
Accepted: Stanford, Kellogg
Waitlisted: Harvard

If you are looking to get into a top b-school, my advice to you is to partner with Liza Weale (and do it early before she reaches her capacity for the year…which she will). She will make you work your butt off because she cares so deeply about seeing you succeed. Be ready to self-reflect. Be ready to take feedback in stride. Be ready to give your all to this process. If you do, you will not be disappointed. You will walk away more self-aware, more self-confident, and with a better idea of how you want to leave your mark on the world. And if you do these things well, there is a good chance you’ll find success in the application process.

In my opinion, the hardest (and most important) part of the application process is getting to know yourself inside and out-- what makes you tick, why you do the things you do, what you want to do with your life—and then communicating this clearly and effectively through essays and interviews. This is no small task; in fact, it’s really really hard and I think it is impossible to do well without someone else pushing and challenging you throughout. Whether it’s a close friend, parent, or a consultant like Liza, find someone to fill this role. I would be hard pressed though to find many friends, parents, or other consultants that care as much as Liza does and that put in the kind of effort to help you put your best foot forward as Liza does (it’s crazy because she starts as a stranger and quickly becomes your biggest fan).

Liza first had me fill out a brainstorming document to help her get to know me (essentially 20+ pages of my life story) and then spent hours on the phone asking me question after question about it. From our very first conversation, I was struck by 1) how good of a listener she was, 2) how much she wanted to authentically get to know me, and 3) how fast she picked up on what was most important to me and how well she was able to think of essay ideas around these things. I had been spinning my wheels for months leading up to our initial conversation and after talking with her it was amazing how I left finally feeling a sense of direction. I then remember sending my first draft of HBS’s essay to Liza for feedback the week after this, thinking that it was pretty great. She turned it around a couple days later basically ripping it to shreds (in the most constructive and polite way possible!). 8 drafts later, I could not have been prouder of how far it had come and how it spoke to who I am and how I want to make my mark on the world.

Liza helped me in a similar way for Kellogg and Stanford—it took MANY hours of me writing, getting feedback, revising, and re-writing, but I felt incredibly pleased and proud of the essays I submitted when all was said and done. Liza also helped me transform my resume from corporate jargon into something that really packed a punch and helped me think of ways to write short answers in a way that was clear and powerful. She never missed a deadline and always came back with meaningful and thoughtful input. She was the best person to help me prep for interviews because of how well she got to know me. She was the first person after my parents I contacted after finding out from Stanford and Kellogg. Liza is incredible, and she will remain a friend for years to come. In my opinion it is well-worth the money to partner with a consultant, and if you do, you would be a fool to not choose Liza.

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