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A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?

(A) 3/10
(B) 23/60
(C) 7/12
(D) 41/60
(E) 5/6


Gloves:
LB = left blue
RB = right blue
LG = left green
RG = right green

LB: 3
RB: 3
LG: 2
RG: 2

Approach: 1 - P(no match)

No match situations:
P(LB, LB, LB): (3/10)(2/9)(1/8) = 1/120
P(RB, RB, RB): 1/120
P(LB, LB and a G): (3/10)(2/9)(4/8)*3 (for the 3 different ways we can pull the gloves) = 1/10
P(RB, RB and a G): 1/10 (same as above)
P(LG, LG, and a B): (2/10)(1/9)(6/8)*3 (for the 3 different ways we can pull the gloves) = 1/20
P(RG, RG, and a B): 1/20 (same as above)

P(no match) = 2(1/120) + 2(1/10) + 2(1/20) = 1/60 + 12/60 + 6/60 = 19/60

P(match) = 1 - P(no match) = 1 - 19/60 = 41/60
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A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?

(A) 3/10
(B) 23/60
(C) 7/12
(D) 41/60
(E) 5/6


You can use the 'calculating the reverse' method used by Bunuel above or if you would like to calculate the probability of getting a matched set in the usual way, you can think of it in this way:

Bleft (3), Bright(3), Gleft (2), Gright(2)

Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)

Bleft, Bright, B
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any blue in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and another B = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!/2!
(You multiply by 3! here to account for the order e.g. Bright, Bleft, Bleft or Bleft, Bright, Bright etc but two gloves will be identical so you divide by 2!)

Gleft, Gright, B
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any Blue in 6/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a B = (2/10)*(2/9)*(6/8)*3!

Gleft, Gright, G
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any other G in 2/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a G = (2/10)*(2/9)*(2/8)*3!/2!

Adding them all up, you get 41/60.

Note here that we cannot say that let's get Bleft, Bright and then any one of the remaining gloves. We need to take separate cases for the third glove (B or G i.e. first two cases above) because the number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, G is different from number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, B as we see above. In one case we multiply by 3! because all 3 gloves are distinct. In the other case, we multiply by 3!/2! because 2 of the gloves are identical. Same logic can be used for the green pair.


Please correct me why it's wrong to solve in this way..

Select one pair among 5 pair and select one from balance 8 gloves.

5C1*8C1/10C3

thanks in advance
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VeritasKarishma wrote:
arps wrote:
A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?

(A) 3/10
(B) 23/60
(C) 7/12
(D) 41/60
(E) 5/6


You can use the 'calculating the reverse' method used by Bunuel above or if you would like to calculate the probability of getting a matched set in the usual way, you can think of it in this way:

Bleft (3), Bright(3), Gleft (2), Gright(2)

Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)

Bleft, Bright, B
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any blue in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and another B = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!/2!
(You multiply by 3! here to account for the order e.g. Bright, Bleft, Bleft or Bleft, Bright, Bright etc but two gloves will be identical so you divide by 2!)

Gleft, Gright, B
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any Blue in 6/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a B = (2/10)*(2/9)*(6/8)*3!

Gleft, Gright, G
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any other G in 2/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a G = (2/10)*(2/9)*(2/8)*3!/2!

Adding them all up, you get 41/60.

Note here that we cannot say that let's get Bleft, Bright and then any one of the remaining gloves. We need to take separate cases for the third glove (B or G i.e. first two cases above) because the number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, G is different from number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, B as we see above. In one case we multiply by 3! because all 3 gloves are distinct. In the other case, we multiply by 3!/2! because 2 of the gloves are identical. Same logic can be used for the green pair.


Please correct me why it's wrong to solve in this way..

Select one pair among 5 pair and select one from balance 8 gloves.

5C1*8C1/10C3

thanks in advance


The Blue pairs are not distinct. So BLeft of all 3 are same. So are BRight of all 3.
When you do 5C1, you are picking one of the 5 pairs in 5 ways. But picking one Blue pair is the same as picking the other Blue pair.
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‘Creating Analogy’
Denote Blue-left as ‘A’ , Blue-right as ‘B’ , Green-left as ‘C’ , and Green-right as ‘D’.
Set formed [ AAA BBB CC DD ], with 10 data points.
Q stem asks to extract 3 data points from the set such that we have one of the two pairs: AB or CD
Possible combinations of AB: AB+ A or B or C or D
Possible combinations of CD: CD+ A or B or C or D
No. of ways of selecting each combo
(divide by 2! to allow correction for repeats, wherever applicable):
ABA= [3C1*3C1*2C1]/2! = 9
ABB= [3C1*3C1*2C1]/2! = 9
ABC= [3C1*3C1*2C1] = 18
ABD= [3C1*3C1*2C1]= 18
CDA= [2C1*2C1*3C1] = 12
CDB= [2C1*2C1*3C1] = 12
CDC= [2C1*2C1*1C1]/2! = 2
CDD= [2C1*2C1*1C1]/2! = 2
Favourable conditions: 9+9+18+18+12+12+2+2 = 82
Total conditions: 10C3 = 120
Probability= 82/120 = 41/60
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12bhang wrote:
Hi Karishma,

Could you please tell me how I'm going wrong?

Since there are 3 blue pairs and 2 green pairs, we have a total of 10 gloves.

I considered two cases:
Case 1: we have a blue pair match

This can be done if we have a blue left, a blue right and any other glove. So,
Since we have 3 blue lefts and 3 blue rights and a total of 10 gloves,

3C1*3C1*8C1- 3 ways of selecting a blue left, 3 for a blue right and any one glove of the remaining 8=72 ways.


You are double counting here. Say the gloves are all distinct. The 3 blue left ones are Bl1, Bl2 and Bl3. Three blue right ones are Br1, Br2, Br3.
So you select one of the blue left ones and one of the blue right ones: Bl2, Br3.
Now you have 8 leftover and you can select any one of them. Say you select Bl1.
So your selection consists of Bl1, Bl2, Br3

Imagine another scenario:
So you select one of the blue left ones and one of the blue right ones: Bl1, Br3.
Now you have 8 leftover and you can select any one of them. Say you select Bl2.
So your selection consists of Bl1, Bl2, Br3

The two selections are the same but you have counted them as different selections.


12bhang wrote:
Case 2: we have a green pair match,

SO, Gleft,Gright and any other glove,

2C1*2C1*8C1=32

Summing , we get 104

The total number of ways to select 3 gloves =10C3=120

so probability of getting a match=104/120 = 13/15.

Where am i going wrong?


Same problem with the green pair.
From the solutions given above, review how to effectively use probability to solve this question.

In case you want to use combinations, you still have to take cases:

All three Blues:
3C2*3C1*2 = 18(Select 2 of the blue left and one of the blue right. Multiply by 2 because you can select 2 of the blue right and one of blue left too)

2 Blues, 1 Green:
3C1*3C1*4C1 = 36

2 Greens, 1 Blue
2C1*2C1*6C1 = 24

Three Greens
2C2*2C1*2 = 4

Total = 82

Select 3 gloves from 10 in 10C3 ways = 120

Probability = 82/120 = 41/60


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One quick question on below explanation - When we are calculating total number of case to pick 3 gloves why aren't we doing 10C1*9C1*8C1 (case 1) instead of 10C3 (case 2). I do understand that case 1 is arrangement and case 2 is pure selection but when we calculate the number of case for say 2G and 1B aren't we doing arrangement somehow?


Yes, 10C1*9C1*8C1 implies that we have 10 distinct objects and we have to pick 3 of them and arrange them in 3 distinct slots: first place, second place and third place.
But we don't have any distinct slots. This is a combinations problem. We need to just select, not arrange in any slots.
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Hi guys,

I am taking this approach since I don't find any piece of information in the question saying that the gloves will be picked sequentially. I know this is wrong but I don't know where, please help me correct it

Numerator: 5*8 (select 1 pair of gloves from the 5 pair and 1 glove from the remaining 8)
Denominator: 10C3

-> The probability is 1/6
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metallicafan wrote:
Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)



First we are going to see the probabilities when we have a pair of blue gloves =

P(right or left blue glove)* P(the opposite hand blue glove)*P(a green glove) =

\(\frac{6}{10} * \frac{3}{9} * \frac{4}{8} = \frac{1}{10}\)

But because there could be different arragements of BBG, we multiply 1/10 by 3!/2!
So, we have \(\frac{3}{10}\)



Your approach is correct if you know why you did what you did. My only question is this: Why did you multiply by 3!/2! instead of 3! (different arrangements of BBG) since the two Bs are different?

If you understand that when you say 6/10 * 3/9, you are already counting in all arrangements of Bleft and Bright and now all you need to do is arrange G with respect to the 2 Bs (i.e. multiply by 3 for the 3 spots where we can put G), then absolutely, go ahead. There is nothing wrong.
(When you say 6/10, you are counting the possibilities of picking a Bleft or a Bright first and whatever is leftover next, so you have already arranged the different Bs.)[/quote]

Hi VeritasKarishma, I followed the above method. For getting BBG our prob is 1/10 for GGB it will be 4/10*2/9*6/8 = 2/30

adding both we get 1/10+2/30 = 5/30

why is this wrong?? :dazed :?
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VeritasKarishma wrote:
metallicafan wrote:
Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)



First we are going to see the probabilities when we have a pair of blue gloves =

P(right or left blue glove)* P(the opposite hand blue glove)*P(a green glove) =

\(\frac{6}{10} * \frac{3}{9} * \frac{4}{8} = \frac{1}{10}\)

But because there could be different arragements of BBG, we multiply 1/10 by 3!/2!
So, we have \(\frac{3}{10}\)


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Your approach is correct if you know why you did what you did. My only question is this: Why did you multiply by 3!/2! instead of 3! (different arrangements of BBG) since the two Bs are different?

If you understand that when you say 6/10 * 3/9, you are already counting in all arrangements of Bleft and Bright and now all you need to do is arrange G with respect to the 2 Bs (i.e. multiply by 3 for the 3 spots where we can put G), then absolutely, go ahead. There is nothing wrong.
(When you say 6/10, you are counting the possibilities of picking a Bleft or a Bright first and whatever is leftover next, so you have already arranged the different Bs.)


Hi VeritasKarishma, I followed the above method. For getting BBG our prob is 1/10 for GGB it will be 4/10*2/9*6/8 = 2/30

adding both we get 1/10+2/30 = 5/30

why is this wrong?? :dazed :?


You have accounted for BBG, but how about BGB and GBB? These will give two more 1/10s.
Also, how about BBB (one pair of Bs and another extra B)
Similarly, GGB and GGG.
Check out the complete solution here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-box-contai ... l#p1045908
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Let's solve it in another way. We have asked to find the the probability of a matched set (i.e a left & right hand glove of blue color from 6 nos or a left & right hand glove of green color from 4 nos in three drawings)


Let's first calculate the probability of NOT getting a matched set and minus it from 1. The selection will be as below from total 10 nos of gloves.

1. BlueL, BlueL, BlueL OR BlueR, BlueR, BlueR

3/10*2/9*1/8=1/120 OR 3/10*2/9*1/8=1/120, So 1/120+1/120=1/60

2. BlueL, BlueL, Green OR BlueR, BlueR, Green

3*(3/10*2/9*4/8)=6/60 OR 3*(3/10*2/9*4/8)=6/60, So 6/60+6/60=12/60

3. GreenL, GreenL, Blue OR GreenR, GreenR, Blue

3*(2/10*1/9*6/8)=3/60 OR 3*(2/10*1/9*6/8)=3/60, So 3/60+3/60=6/60

Total probability of 6 outcomes for NOT getting a matched set is 1/60+12/60+6/60= 19/60

So, probability of getting a matched set= 1-19/60= 41/60
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This question seems tougher compared to the others.
It's in the forum though, do you guys think these types of questions are asked on gmat?
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Re: A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of [#permalink]
Hmmm, I got very close here. Wonder what I missed?

B = Blue, G = Green, L = Left, R = Right


Total cases = 10C3 = 120

BL + BR can be combined with GR + GL in (2 + 2)*6 ways and with BL + BR in (2 + 2)*3 ways = 36 ways

GL + GR can be combined with BL + BR in (3 + 3)*6 ways and with GR + GL in (1 + 1)*3 ways = 42 ways

In total 78/120 or 39/60

Somewhere I miss 4 cases.
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Hmmm, I got very close here. Wonder what I missed?
B = Blue, G = Green, L = Left, R = Right
Total cases = 10C3 = 120
BL + BR can be combined with GR + GL in (2 + 2)*6 ways and with BL + BR in (2 + 2)*3 ways = 36 ways
GL + GR can be combined with BL + BR in (3 + 3)*6 ways and with GR + GL in (1 + 1)*3 ways = 42 ways
In total 78/120 or 39/60
Somewhere I miss 4 cases.


Question: A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?
(A) 3/10 (B) 23/60 (C) 7/12 (D) 41/60 (E) 5/6

BL BR and (BL / BR / GL / GR): 54
(BL BR) BL = 3c1 x 3c1 x 2c1/2! = 9
(BL BR) BR = 3c1 x 3c1 x 2c1/2! = 9
(BL BR) GL = 3c1 x 3c1 x 2c1 = 18
(BL BR) GR = 3c1 x 3c1 x 2c1 = 18

GL GR and (BL / BR / GL / GR) : 28
(GL GR) BL = 2c1 x 2c1 x 3c1 = 12
(GL GR) BR = 2c1 x 2c1 x 3c1 = 12
(GL GR) GL = 2c1 x 2c1 x 1c1/2! = 2
(GL GR) GR = 2c1 x 2c1 x 1c1/2! = 2

Total = 54 + 28 = 82
Probability = 82/10c3 = 82/120 = 41/60

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the take away from this problem is that, whenever you feel there is a mix of same and non-same combinations you need to break up into cases. otherwise 8 remaining cases for the 3rd glove could be taken in one shot. but it would both include a duplicate of existing glove and a third type.
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Hey Karishma, I actually solved this question with the assumption that the order of selection of gloves is irrelevant since we are only concerned with getting a pair and not the order in which we got it. Is my below approach right or I was lucky to get a correct answer with wrong approach?

Blue Right - 3
Blue Left - 3
Green Right -2
Green Left -2

4 possible scenarios ( w/o order being important)

a) Br, Bl, Gr/ Gl : 3C1 X 3C1 X 4C1 = 36
b) Gr, Gl, Br/Bl : 2C1 X 2C1 X 6C1 = 24
c) Br, Br, Bl or Bl,Bl,Br = 3C2 X 3C1 X2 =18
d) Gr,Gr,Gl or Gl,Gl,Gr = 2C2 x 2C1 x 2= 4

Total favourable scenarios in = 36+24+18+4 = 82 ways

Total possible scenarios in 10C3 = 120 days

P = 82/120 = 41/60





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A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?

(A) 3/10
(B) 23/60
(C) 7/12
(D) 41/60
(E) 5/6


You can use the 'calculating the reverse' method used by Bunuel above or if you would like to calculate the probability of getting a matched set in the usual way, you can think of it in this way:

Bleft (3), Bright(3), Gleft (2), Gright(2)

Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)

Bleft, Bright, B
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any blue in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and another B = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!/2!
(You multiply by 3! here to account for the order e.g. Bright, Bleft, Bleft or Bleft, Bright, Bright etc but two gloves will be identical so you divide by 2!)

Gleft, Gright, B
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any Blue in 6/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a B = (2/10)*(2/9)*(6/8)*3!

Gleft, Gright, G
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any other G in 2/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a G = (2/10)*(2/9)*(2/8)*3!/2!

Adding them all up, you get 41/60.

Note here that we cannot say that let's get Bleft, Bright and then any one of the remaining gloves. We need to take separate cases for the third glove (B or G i.e. first two cases above) because the number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, G is different from number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, B as we see above. In one case we multiply by 3! because all 3 gloves are distinct. In the other case, we multiply by 3!/2! because 2 of the gloves are identical. Same logic can be used for the green pair.
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@karihmab pls shelp me point out mistake since it seems im able to count only a few cases here

P(BBG)= 3c1*2C1*3/ 10C3 ; 3c1= ways to select 1 pair out of 2 blue and 2c1= ways to select one green pair out of 2)
P(GGB)= 2c1*3c1/10c3
P(BBB)=3c1*2c1/10c3

I have used the same logic for all cases but why is this wrong?
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