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A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?

(A) 3/10
(B) 23/60
(C) 7/12
(D) 41/60
(E) 5/6

You can use the 'calculating the reverse' method used by Bunuel above or if you would like to calculate the probability of getting a matched set in the usual way, you can think of it in this way:

Bleft (3), Bright(3), Gleft (2), Gright(2)

Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)

Bleft, Bright, B
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any blue in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and another B = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!/2!
(You multiply by 3! here to account for the order e.g. Bright, Bleft, Bleft or Bleft, Bright, Bright etc but two gloves will be identical so you divide by 2!)

Gleft, Gright, B
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any Blue in 6/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a B = (2/10)*(2/9)*(6/8)*3!

Gleft, Gright, G
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any other G in 2/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a G = (2/10)*(2/9)*(2/8)*3!/2!

Adding them all up, you get 41/60.

Note here that we cannot say that let's get Bleft, Bright and then any one of the remaining gloves. We need to take separate cases for the third glove (B or G i.e. first two cases above) because the number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, G is different from number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, B as we see above. In one case we multiply by 3! because all 3 gloves are distinct. In the other case, we multiply by 3!/2! because 2 of the gloves are identical. Same logic can be used for the green pair.

Please correct me why it's wrong to solve in this way..

Select one pair among 5 pair and select one from balance 8 gloves.

5C1*8C1/10C3

thanks in advance

The Blue pairs are not distinct. So BLeft of all 3 are same. So are BRight of all 3.
When you do 5C1, you are picking one of the 5 pairs in 5 ways. But picking one Blue pair is the same as picking the other Blue pair.
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Hi Karishma,

Could you please tell me how I'm going wrong?

Since there are 3 blue pairs and 2 green pairs, we have a total of 10 gloves.

I considered two cases:
Case 1: we have a blue pair match

This can be done if we have a blue left, a blue right and any other glove. So,
Since we have 3 blue lefts and 3 blue rights and a total of 10 gloves,

3C1*3C1*8C1- 3 ways of selecting a blue left, 3 for a blue right and any one glove of the remaining 8=72 ways.

You are double counting here. Say the gloves are all distinct. The 3 blue left ones are Bl1, Bl2 and Bl3. Three blue right ones are Br1, Br2, Br3.
So you select one of the blue left ones and one of the blue right ones: Bl2, Br3.
Now you have 8 leftover and you can select any one of them. Say you select Bl1.
So your selection consists of Bl1, Bl2, Br3

Imagine another scenario:
So you select one of the blue left ones and one of the blue right ones: Bl1, Br3.
Now you have 8 leftover and you can select any one of them. Say you select Bl2.
So your selection consists of Bl1, Bl2, Br3

The two selections are the same but you have counted them as different selections.


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Case 2: we have a green pair match,

SO, Gleft,Gright and any other glove,

2C1*2C1*8C1=32

Summing , we get 104

The total number of ways to select 3 gloves =10C3=120

so probability of getting a match=104/120 = 13/15.

Where am i going wrong?

Same problem with the green pair.
From the solutions given above, review how to effectively use probability to solve this question.

In case you want to use combinations, you still have to take cases:

All three Blues:
3C2*3C1*2 = 18(Select 2 of the blue left and one of the blue right. Multiply by 2 because you can select 2 of the blue right and one of blue left too)

2 Blues, 1 Green:
3C1*3C1*4C1 = 36

2 Greens, 1 Blue
2C1*2C1*6C1 = 24

Three Greens
2C2*2C1*2 = 4

Total = 82

Select 3 gloves from 10 in 10C3 ways = 120

Probability = 82/120 = 41/60

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One quick question on below explanation - When we are calculating total number of case to pick 3 gloves why aren't we doing 10C1*9C1*8C1 (case 1) instead of 10C3 (case 2). I do understand that case 1 is arrangement and case 2 is pure selection but when we calculate the number of case for say 2G and 1B aren't we doing arrangement somehow?

Yes, 10C1*9C1*8C1 implies that we have 10 distinct objects and we have to pick 3 of them and arrange them in 3 distinct slots: first place, second place and third place.
But we don't have any distinct slots. This is a combinations problem. We need to just select, not arrange in any slots.
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Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)


First we are going to see the probabilities when we have a pair of blue gloves =

P(right or left blue glove)* P(the opposite hand blue glove)*P(a green glove) =

\(\frac{6}{10} * \frac{3}{9} * \frac{4}{8} = \frac{1}{10}\)

But because there could be different arragements of BBG, we multiply 1/10 by 3!/2!
So, we have \(\frac{3}{10}\)


Your approach is correct if you know why you did what you did. My only question is this: Why did you multiply by 3!/2! instead of 3! (different arrangements of BBG) since the two Bs are different?

If you understand that when you say 6/10 * 3/9, you are already counting in all arrangements of Bleft and Bright and now all you need to do is arrange G with respect to the 2 Bs (i.e. multiply by 3 for the 3 spots where we can put G), then absolutely, go ahead. There is nothing wrong.
(When you say 6/10, you are counting the possibilities of picking a Bleft or a Bright first and whatever is leftover next, so you have already arranged the different Bs.)[/quote]

Hi VeritasKarishma, I followed the above method. For getting BBG our prob is 1/10 for GGB it will be 4/10*2/9*6/8 = 2/30

adding both we get 1/10+2/30 = 5/30

why is this wrong?? :dazed :?
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Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)


First we are going to see the probabilities when we have a pair of blue gloves =

P(right or left blue glove)* P(the opposite hand blue glove)*P(a green glove) =

\(\frac{6}{10} * \frac{3}{9} * \frac{4}{8} = \frac{1}{10}\)

But because there could be different arragements of BBG, we multiply 1/10 by 3!/2!
So, we have \(\frac{3}{10}\)

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Your approach is correct if you know why you did what you did. My only question is this: Why did you multiply by 3!/2! instead of 3! (different arrangements of BBG) since the two Bs are different?

If you understand that when you say 6/10 * 3/9, you are already counting in all arrangements of Bleft and Bright and now all you need to do is arrange G with respect to the 2 Bs (i.e. multiply by 3 for the 3 spots where we can put G), then absolutely, go ahead. There is nothing wrong.
(When you say 6/10, you are counting the possibilities of picking a Bleft or a Bright first and whatever is leftover next, so you have already arranged the different Bs.)

Hi VeritasKarishma, I followed the above method. For getting BBG our prob is 1/10 for GGB it will be 4/10*2/9*6/8 = 2/30

adding both we get 1/10+2/30 = 5/30

why is this wrong?? :dazed :?

You have accounted for BBG, but how about BGB and GBB? These will give two more 1/10s.
Also, how about BBB (one pair of Bs and another extra B)
Similarly, GGB and GGG.
Check out the complete solution here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-box-contai ... l#p1045908
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Hmmm, I got very close here. Wonder what I missed?

B = Blue, G = Green, L = Left, R = Right


Total cases = 10C3 = 120

BL + BR can be combined with GR + GL in (2 + 2)*6 ways and with BL + BR in (2 + 2)*3 ways = 36 ways

GL + GR can be combined with BL + BR in (3 + 3)*6 ways and with GR + GL in (1 + 1)*3 ways = 42 ways

In total 78/120 or 39/60

Somewhere I miss 4 cases.
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Hmmm, I got very close here. Wonder what I missed?
B = Blue, G = Green, L = Left, R = Right
Total cases = 10C3 = 120
BL + BR can be combined with GR + GL in (2 + 2)*6 ways and with BL + BR in (2 + 2)*3 ways = 36 ways
GL + GR can be combined with BL + BR in (3 + 3)*6 ways and with GR + GL in (1 + 1)*3 ways = 42 ways
In total 78/120 or 39/60
Somewhere I miss 4 cases.

Question: A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?
(A) 3/10 (B) 23/60 (C) 7/12 (D) 41/60 (E) 5/6

BL BR and (BL / BR / GL / GR): 54
(BL BR) BL = 3c1 x 3c1 x 2c1/2! = 9
(BL BR) BR = 3c1 x 3c1 x 2c1/2! = 9
(BL BR) GL = 3c1 x 3c1 x 2c1 = 18
(BL BR) GR = 3c1 x 3c1 x 2c1 = 18

GL GR and (BL / BR / GL / GR) : 28
(GL GR) BL = 2c1 x 2c1 x 3c1 = 12
(GL GR) BR = 2c1 x 2c1 x 3c1 = 12
(GL GR) GL = 2c1 x 2c1 x 1c1/2! = 2
(GL GR) GR = 2c1 x 2c1 x 1c1/2! = 2

Total = 54 + 28 = 82
Probability = 82/10c3 = 82/120 = 41/60

Hope this helps!
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A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?

(A) 3/10
(B) 23/60
(C) 7/12
(D) 41/60
(E) 5/6
You can use the 'calculating the reverse' method used by Bunuel above or if you would like to calculate the probability of getting a matched set in the usual way, you can think of it in this way:

Bleft (3), Bright(3), Gleft (2), Gright(2)

Bleft, Bright, G
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any green in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and a G = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!
(You multiply by 3! here because you could pick in some other order e.g. Bright, Bleft, G or Bleft, G, Bright etc)

Bleft, Bright, B
Get a Bleft and Bright in (3/10)*(3/9) ways. Then get any blue in 4/8 ways.
Probability of getting B pair and another B = (3/10)*(3/9)*(4/8)*3!/2!
(You multiply by 3! here to account for the order e.g. Bright, Bleft, Bleft or Bleft, Bright, Bright etc but two gloves will be identical so you divide by 2!)

Gleft, Gright, B
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any Blue in 6/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a B = (2/10)*(2/9)*(6/8)*3!

Gleft, Gright, G
Get a Gleft and Gright in (2/10)*(2/9) ways. Then get any other G in 2/8 ways.
Probability of getting G pair and a G = (2/10)*(2/9)*(2/8)*3!/2!

Adding them all up, you get 41/60.

Note here that we cannot say that let's get Bleft, Bright and then any one of the remaining gloves. We need to take separate cases for the third glove (B or G i.e. first two cases above) because the number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, G is different from number of arrangements of Bleft, Bright, B as we see above. In one case we multiply by 3! because all 3 gloves are distinct. In the other case, we multiply by 3!/2! because 2 of the gloves are identical. Same logic can be used for the green pair.
According to your logic here, Bright gloves are all identical to each other and the same goes for Bleft, Gright, and Gleft. (This logic is being used to calculate the arrangements in the above solution.)
But if this is the assumption,
then the number of ways of selecting Bleft, Bright, G is 1 not 3*3*4 and the same goes for the remaining cases as well. 
Because the number of ways of selecting r items from n identical items is 1 not nCr. And The number of ways of selecting 1 item of type1, 1 item of type2, and 1 item of type3 from m identical items of type1, n identical items of type2, and l identical items of type3 is equal to 1 as well.
Could you please let me know of any errors in the above reasoning?
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We have
  • 3 blue left
  • 3 blue right
  • 2 green left
  • 2 green right­

1) 1 Blue pair + 1 Green: 3 * 3 * 4 = 36

2) All 3 are Blue

a) 2 left + 1 right: 3C2 * 3C1 = 3 * 3 = 9
b) 1 left + 1 right: 3C1 * 3C2 = 3 * 3 = 9

=> Total is 18

3) 1 Green pair + 1 Blue: 2 * 2 * 6 = 24

4) All 3 are Green
=> in any case we will get 1 pair
=> 4C3 = 4


==> Total number of possible cases is 36 + 18 + 24 + 4 = 82

Total number of cases is 10C3 = 120

Probability = \(\frac{82}{120} = \frac{41}{60}\)­
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­Hi,

Could someone please highlight the flaw in my approach :
6/10 (Selecting one glove out of 6 Blue gloves)* 3/9 (Selecting the other pair of Blue glove)* 8/8 (Selecting any other glove because it does not matter now, since we have one complete pair)

+

4/10*2/9*8/8 (Same approach as above for Green gloves)

= 13/45? What am I missing here? 
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something is bugging me here, when we say 10C3 we are considering all the arrangements that differ at least by one element, not the order. so by doing 10C3 we are assuming the 10 elements are different from each other and thus like
BR1 BR2 BR3
BL1 BL2 BL3
GR1 GR2
GL1 GL2

so when we take an arrangement like {BR1 BR2 BL3} and {BR1 BR3 BL3}, both are of the type {BR BR BL} but we are effectively counting them BOTH among the 120 combinations. so i don't understand why i cannot solve the question by doing the following:

3*3*8 = 72 (we can get BR in 3 ways, BL in 3 ways and fill the gap in 8 ways)
and
2*2*8 = 32 (we can get GR in 2 ways, GL in 2 ways and fill the gap in 8 ways)

72+32 should be all the arrangements in 120 that satisfy the condition.

i do not see where the double counting is.
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something is bugging me here, when we say 10C3 we are considering all the arrangements that differ at least by one element, not the order. so by doing 10C3 we are assuming the 10 elements are different from each other and thus like
BR1 BR2 BR3
BL1 BL2 BL3
GR1 GR2
GL1 GL2

so when we take an arrangement like {BR1 BR2 BL3} and {BR1 BR3 BL3}, both are of the type {BR BR BL} but we are effectively counting them BOTH among the 120 combinations. so i don't understand why i cannot solve the question by doing the following:

3*3*8 = 72 (we can get BR in 3 ways, BL in 3 ways and fill the gap in 8 ways)
and
2*2*8 = 32 (we can get GR in 2 ways, GL in 2 ways and fill the gap in 8 ways)

72+32 should be all the arrangements in 120 that satisfy the condition.

i do not see where the double counting is.
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can anyone explain?­
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I believe your doubt is addressed here:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-box-contai ... l#p1279980
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2 Blues, 1 Green:
3C1*3C1*4C1 = 36

2 Greens, 1 Blue
2C1*2C1*6C1 = 24



Hi Karishma,

Can you please help understand why haven't you multiplied the above by 3!/2
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Hi Karishma,

Could you please tell me how I'm going wrong?

Since there are 3 blue pairs and 2 green pairs, we have a total of 10 gloves.

I considered two cases:
Case 1: we have a blue pair match

This can be done if we have a blue left, a blue right and any other glove. So,
Since we have 3 blue lefts and 3 blue rights and a total of 10 gloves,

3C1*3C1*8C1- 3 ways of selecting a blue left, 3 for a blue right and any one glove of the remaining 8=72 ways.




Case 2: we have a green pair match,

SO, Gleft,Gright and any other glove,

2C1*2C1*8C1=32

Summing , we get 104

The total number of ways to select 3 gloves =10C3=120

so probability of getting a match=104/120 = 13/15.

Where am i going wrong?


Bunuel KarishmaB

What is wrong with this approach ?
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i tried doing this as:
(BBB) 3C1*3C1*4C1 + (BBG)3C1*3C1*4C1+(GGG)2C1*2C1*2C1+ (GGB) 2C1*2C1*6C1 divided by 10C3

Please explain where is the fault?
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A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?

(A) 3/10
(B) 23/60
(C) 7/12
(D) 41/60
(E) 5/6
Let's calculate the opposite probability of NOT getting a matched set and subtract this value from 1.

This could happen only if we pick all three same hand BLUE gloves; two same hand BLUE gloves and any green glove; or two same hand GREEN gloves and any BLUE glove

BBB: \(\frac{6}{10}*\frac{2}{9}*\frac{1}{8}=\frac{1}{60}\) (after we pick a blue glove, 6/10, then there are 2 same hand gloves left out of the total 9 gloves - 2/9, and so on);

BBG: \((\frac{6}{10}*\frac{2}{9}*\frac{4}{8})*3=\frac{12}{60}\), multiplying by 3 as this scenario can occur in 3 different ways: BBG, BGB, GBB;

GGB: \((\frac{4}{10}*\frac{1}{9}*\frac{6}{8})*3=\frac{6}{60}\);

\(P=1-(\frac{1}{60}+\frac{12}{60}+\frac{6}{60})=\frac{41}{60}\).

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.­
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It is luring to go for 3C1 x 3C1 x 8C1 + 2C1 x 2C1 x 8C1 = 104
But many repetitions happen in these 104 outcomes.

For example, in the 1st case, let's assume all 3 are blue.
So, L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, R3 are the total options to choose from.
3C1 x 3C1 = (L1 R1), (L1 R2), (L1 R3), (L2 R1), (L2 R2), (L2 R3), (L3 R1), (L3 R2), (L3 R3) = 9 ways.

Now, say, the 3rd one is a Blue left glove. In the above formula, out of total 8 in 8C1, 2 Blue left, 2 Blue right, and 4 Greens remain. So, when we multiply 3C1 x 3C1 x 2C1 (for the 2 Blue left) we get 18 ways (we are not multiplying by 8C1 because we only want outcomes that have 2 Blue left as the 3rd glove):
(L1 R1 L2), (L1 R1 L3),
(L1 R2 L2), (L1 R2 L3),
(L1 R3 L2), (L1 R3 L3),
(L2 R1 L1), (L2 R1 L3),
(L2 R2 L1), (L2 R2 L3),
(L2 R3 L1), (L2 R3 L3),
(L3 R1 L1), (L3 R1 L2),
(L3 R2 L1), (L3 R2 L2),
(L3 R3 L1), (L3 R3 L2).

Upon looking closely, we can see that 1 and 7 are similar, 2 and 13 are similar, and so on. All are counted twice as ORDER DOESN’T MATTER. Similar double counting is possible when we multiply by 2C1 for 2 Blue right as the 3rd glove.

So, to correct this, we should break up our cases:
Case 1: 2 Blue left, 1 Blue right = 3C2 x 3C1 = 9 [No double counting]
Case 2: 1 Blue left, 2 Blue right = 3C1 x 3C2 = 9 [No double counting]
Case 3: 1 Blue left, 1 Blue right, 1 Green = 3C1 x 3C1 x 4C1 = 36
Case 4: 2 Green left, 1 Green right = 2C2 x 2C1 = 2 [No double counting]
Case 5: 1 Green left, 2 Green right = 2C1 x 2C2 = 2 [No double counting]
Case 6: 1 Green left, 1 Green right, 1 Blue = 2C1 x 2C1 x 6C1 = 24

Total favourable ways = 9 + 9 + 36 + 2 + 2 + 24 = 82
Total possible ways to select 3 gloves from 10 (5 pair) = 10C3 = 120
Probability = 82/120 = 41/60

In combinations, while counting, we should break up our cases so that similar type of items is selected together instead of in multiple separate instances. Otherwise, we need to be cognizant of the double counting and divide the outcome accordingly.
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Hi Karishma,

Could you please tell me how I'm going wrong?

Since there are 3 blue pairs and 2 green pairs, we have a total of 10 gloves.

I considered two cases:
Case 1: we have a blue pair match

This can be done if we have a blue left, a blue right and any other glove. So,
Since we have 3 blue lefts and 3 blue rights and a total of 10 gloves,

3C1*3C1*8C1- 3 ways of selecting a blue left, 3 for a blue right and any one glove of the remaining 8=72 ways.




Case 2: we have a green pair match,

SO, Gleft,Gright and any other glove,

2C1*2C1*8C1=32

Summing , we get 104

The total number of ways to select 3 gloves =10C3=120

so probability of getting a match=104/120 = 13/15.

Where am i going wrong?


Bunuel KarishmaB

What is wrong with this approach ?


The problem with this approach is that a given glove can be both in the first draw AND in the draw from the group of remaining gloves, leading to double counting.

For example, embedded in the possibilities following this approach is:

3 ways to pick a blue left * 2 ways to pick a blue left from the draw from the remaining 8 gloves = 6 ways.

But the proper approach would be to be to treat this as picking 2 blue gloves from 3 or 3C2 = 3 ways.

So the approach of picking from the remaining gloves doesn't work because a given glove could be both in the first pick as well as in the group of remaining gloves.
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A box contains three pairs of blue gloves and two pairs of green gloves. Each pair consists of a left-hand glove and a right-hand glove. Each of the gloves is separate from its mate and thoroughly mixed together with the others in the box. If three gloves are randomly selected from the box, what is the probability that a matched set (i.e., a left- and right-hand glove of the same color) will be among the three gloves selected?

(A) 3/10
(B) 23/60
(C) 7/12
(D) 41/60
(E) 5/6
Let's calculate the opposite probability of NOT getting a matched set and subtract this value from 1.

This could happen only if we pick all three same hand BLUE gloves; two same hand BLUE gloves and any green glove; or two same hand GREEN gloves and any BLUE glove

BBB: \(\frac{6}{10}*\frac{2}{9}*\frac{1}{8}=\frac{1}{60}\) (after we pick a blue glove, 6/10, then there are 2 same hand gloves left out of the total 9 gloves - 2/9, and so on);

BBG: \((\frac{6}{10}*\frac{2}{9}*\frac{4}{8})*3=\frac{12}{60}\), multiplying by 3 as this scenario can occur in 3 different ways: BBG, BGB, GBB;

GGB: \((\frac{4}{10}*\frac{1}{9}*\frac{6}{8})*3=\frac{6}{60}\);

\(P=1-(\frac{1}{60}+\frac{12}{60}+\frac{6}{60})=\frac{41}{60}\).

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.­

why would we not do the same for ggg
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