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how did the square root in the denominator disappear?
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If \(x^2 > y^2\), then \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} =\)

A. \(x - y\)

B. \(x + y\)

C. \(\frac{x - y}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x + y}\)

E. \(\frac{x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2}{x+y}\)

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\(x^2 > y^2......x^2-y^2>0\)

\(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} \)

\(\frac{\sqrt{(x^2 -y^2)^2}}{x+y} \)

\(\frac{{x^2 - y^2}}{x+y} \)

\(\frac{(x-y)(x+y)}{x+y} = x-y\)

A

\(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} \) = \(\frac{Numerator}{Denominator}\)

Numerator = \(\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}\) Denominator = \(x+y\)

There is no square root in the denominator.
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If \(x^2 > y^2\), then \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} =\)

A. \(x - y\)

B. \(x + y\)

C. \(\frac{x - y}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x + y}\)

E. \(\frac{x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2}{x+y}\)

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The point in this question is to understand the simple algebric identity which is \((a=b)^2 = a^2 - 2ab + b^2\)

using this identity we can say that \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 = (x^2 -y^2)^2\)

i..e. \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} = \frac{\sqrt{(x^2 - y^2)^2}}{x+y} = \frac{(x^2 - y^2)}{(x+y)} = \frac{(x - y)*(x+y)}{(x+y)}=x-y \)

Answer: Option A
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Hey GMATinsight, what are the steps to go from x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 to (x^2 - y^2)^2? Personally, I would've had thought erroneously that x^4 - 2^2x^2y^2 +y^4 was equal to (x^2 - y^2)^2.

Many thanks in advance for your kind help and time.

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If \(x^2 > y^2\), then \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} =\)

A. \(x - y\)

B. \(x + y\)

C. \(\frac{x - y}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x + y}\)

E. \(\frac{x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2}{x+y}\)

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The point in this question is to understand the simple algebric identity which is \((a=b)^2 = a^2 - 2ab + b^2\)

using this identity we can say that \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 = (x^2 -y^2)^2\)

i..e. \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} = \frac{\sqrt{(x^2 - y^2)^2}}{x+y} = \frac{(x^2 - y^2)}{(x+y)} = \frac{(x - y)*(x+y)}{(x+y)}=x-y \)

Answer: Option A
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Hey GMATinsight, what are the steps to go from x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 to (x^2 - y^2)^2? Personally, I would've had thought erroneously that x^4 - 2^2x^2y^2 +y^4 was equal to (x^2 - y^2)^2.

Many thanks in advance for your kind help and time.

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If \(x^2 > y^2\), then \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} =\)

A. \(x - y\)

B. \(x + y\)

C. \(\frac{x - y}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x + y}\)

E. \(\frac{x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2}{x+y}\)

Attachment:
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The point in this question is to understand the simple algebric identity which is \((a=b)^2 = a^2 - 2ab + b^2\)

using this identity we can say that \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 = (x^2 -y^2)^2\)

i..e. \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} = \frac{\sqrt{(x^2 - y^2)^2}}{x+y} = \frac{(x^2 - y^2)}{(x+y)} = \frac{(x - y)*(x+y)}{(x+y)}=x-y \)

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Consider \(x^2 = m\), and \(y^2 = n\). Therefore, \(x^4 = m^2\) and \(y^4 = n^2\)

Substituting these values in \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4\) , we get \(m^2 - 2mn + n^2\) which is \((m - n)^2\)

Now, re-substituting the values of m and n, \((m - n)^2\) = \((x^2 -y^2)^2\)
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Hey Krunaal, just curious, is this how you would have approached the question had you seen it for the first time on the exam? I understand the logic behind it that we recognise the identity x^2-y^2, but at my first go I definitely didn't think of it right away and had to look at other's solutions :/

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Consider \(x^2 = m\), and \(y^2 = n\). Therefore, \(x^4 = m^2\) and \(y^4 = n^2\)

Substituting these values in \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4\) , we get \(m^2 - 2mn + n^2\) which is \((m - n)^2\)

Now, re-substituting the values of m and n, \((m - n)^2\) = \((x^2 -y^2)^2\)
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If \(x^2 > y^2\), then \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} =\)

A. \(x - y\)

B. \(x + y\)

C. \(\frac{x - y}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x + y}\)

E. \(\frac{x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2}{x+y}\)

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As \(x^2 > y^2\), we can infer that \(x^2 - y^2 > 0\)

\(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y}\)

\(\frac{\sqrt{(x^2-y^2)^2}}{x+y}\)

\(\frac{|x^2-y^2|}{x+y}\)

As \(x^2 - y^2 > 0\), \(|x^2-y^2|\) = \(x^2 - y^2\)

\(\frac{|x^2-y^2|}{x+y}\)

\(\frac{x^2-y^2}{x+y}\)

\(\frac{(x+y)(x-y)}{x+y}\)

= x - y

Option A
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Can I understand your thought process a bit more? Is x^2 > y^2 a prerequisite for arriving at x^2-y^2? I'm trying to work on being able to see these algebraic identities even when not so obvious.
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If \(x^2 > y^2\), then \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} =\)

A. \(x - y\)

B. \(x + y\)

C. \(\frac{x - y}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x + y}\)

E. \(\frac{x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2}{x+y}\)

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As \(x^2 > y^2\), we can infer that \(x^2 - y^2 > 0\)

\(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y}\)

\(\frac{\sqrt{(x^2-y^2)^2}}{x+y}\)

\(\frac{|x^2-y^2|}{x+y}\)

As \(x^2 - y^2 > 0\), \(|x^2-y^2|\) = \(x^2 - y^2\)

\(\frac{|x^2-y^2|}{x+y}\)

\(\frac{x^2-y^2}{x+y}\)

\(\frac{(x+y)(x-y)}{x+y}\)

= x - y

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Hey Krunaal, just curious, is this how you would have approached the question had you seen it for the first time on the exam? I understand the logic behind it that we recognise the identity x^2-y^2, but at my first go I definitely didn't think of it right away and had to look at other's solutions :/

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Consider \(x^2 = m\), and \(y^2 = n\). Therefore, \(x^4 = m^2\) and \(y^4 = n^2\)

Substituting these values in \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4\) , we get \(m^2 - 2mn + n^2\) which is \((m - n)^2\)

Now, re-substituting the values of m and n, \((m - n)^2\) = \((x^2 -y^2)^2\)
Yes, I would approach it this way - a trigger for me would be the square root over numerator, i would want to get rid of it, and an easy way to get rid of it would be if the expression underneath is a square.
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Hey Krunaal thanks for your help. I was trying to solve the problem the following way, but I am not getting to the answer, could you please help me identify where am I going wrong?

(SQRT(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4))^2/(x+y)^2

= (x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4)/(x+y)^2

=(x^2 - y^2)^2/(x+y)^2

=(x-y)(x+y)(x-y)(x+y)/(x+y)(x+y)

=(x-y)^2

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hey GMATinsight, what are the steps to go from x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 to (x^2 - y^2)^2? Personally, I would've had thought erroneously that x^4 - 2^2x^2y^2 +y^4 was equal to (x^2 - y^2)^2.

Many thanks in advance for your kind help and time.

GMATinsight
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If \(x^2 > y^2\), then \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} =\)

A. \(x - y\)

B. \(x + y\)

C. \(\frac{x - y}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x + y}\)

E. \(\frac{x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2}{x+y}\)

Attachment:
2024-01-24_20-44-00.png

The point in this question is to understand the simple algebric identity which is \((a=b)^2 = a^2 - 2ab + b^2\)

using this identity we can say that \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 = (x^2 -y^2)^2\)

i..e. \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} = \frac{\sqrt{(x^2 - y^2)^2}}{x+y} = \frac{(x^2 - y^2)}{(x+y)} = \frac{(x - y)*(x+y)}{(x+y)}=x-y \)

Answer: Option A
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I see, I understand. We want to get rid of the square root and make our life easier. I guess my main point was that from \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4\) I wouldn't have inferred we would arrive at \(x^2-y^2 = (x-y)(x+y)\) by factoring \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 --> (x^2-y^2)^2\) to be able to get remove the square root. If anything I would probably have mistaken it for \((x-y)^2 = x^2 + y^2 - 2xy\) as it *seems* more similar ahah :cry:

Would you advise just to keep practicing algebra questions or go back and brush up my theory?
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Hey Krunaal, just curious, is this how you would have approached the question had you seen it for the first time on the exam? I understand the logic behind it that we recognise the identity x^2-y^2, but at my first go I definitely didn't think of it right away and had to look at other's solutions :/

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Consider \(x^2 = m\), and \(y^2 = n\). Therefore, \(x^4 = m^2\) and \(y^4 = n^2\)

Substituting these values in \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4\) , we get \(m^2 - 2mn + n^2\) which is \((m - n)^2\)

Now, re-substituting the values of m and n, \((m - n)^2\) = \((x^2 -y^2)^2\)
Yes, I would approach it this way - a trigger for me would be the square root over numerator, i would want to get rid of it, and an easy way to get rid of it would be if the expression underneath is a square.
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Hey Krunaal thanks for your help. I was trying to solve the problem the following way, but I am not getting to the answer, could you please help me identify where am I going wrong?

(SQRT(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4))^2/(x+y)^2

= (x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4)/(x+y)^2

=(x^2 - y^2)^2/(x+y)^2

=(x-y)(x+y)(x-y)(x+y)/(x+y)(x+y)

=(x-y)^2

Thanks in advance for your help.
The first line - it will be \(\frac{\sqrt{(x^2 -y^2)^2}}{x+y} \)
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I see, I understand. We want to get rid of the square root and make our life easier. I guess my main point was that from \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4\) I wouldn't have inferred we would arrive at \(x^2-y^2 = (x-y)(x+y)\) by factoring \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4 --> (x^2-y^2)^2\) to be able to get remove the square root. If anything I would probably have mistaken it for \((x-y)^2 = x^2 + y^2 - 2xy\) as it *seems* more similar ahah :cry:

Would you advise just to keep practicing algebra questions or go back and brush up my theory?
Algebra 101, Math Number Theory - links to some theory you might find helpful. Since you were able to recognise that \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4\) is similar to some algebraic identity, you could think a step further and look for what is different between \(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4\) and \(x^2 - 2xy + y^2\) (the one that you find it similar to) - from there you will realise that x and y are squared, and \((x-y)^2\) will be \((x^2 - y^2)^2 \) in this case.
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Hey Krunaal I understand that it's easier to solve when the first line is as you stated, however I was wondering if it would also be possible to start solving the problem by applying an exponent of 2 to numerator and denominator as I wrote on my past post. Thanks again for your help.

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Hey Krunaal thanks for your help. I was trying to solve the problem the following way, but I am not getting to the answer, could you please help me identify where am I going wrong?

(SQRT(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4))^2/(x+y)^2

= (x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4)/(x+y)^2

=(x^2 - y^2)^2/(x+y)^2

=(x-y)(x+y)(x-y)(x+y)/(x+y)(x+y)

=(x-y)^2

Thanks in advance for your help.
The first line - it will be \(\frac{\sqrt{(x^2 -y^2)^2}}{x+y} \)
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Hey Krunaal I understand that it's easier to solve when the first line is as you stated, however I was wondering if it would also be possible to start solving the problem by applying an exponent of 2 to numerator and denominator as I wrote on my past post. Thanks again for your help.

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Hey Krunaal thanks for your help. I was trying to solve the problem the following way, but I am not getting to the answer, could you please help me identify where am I going wrong?

(SQRT(x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4))^2/(x+y)^2

= (x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4)/(x+y)^2

=(x^2 - y^2)^2/(x+y)^2

=(x-y)(x+y)(x-y)(x+y)/(x+y)(x+y)

=(x-y)^2

Thanks in advance for your help.
The first line - it will be \(\frac{\sqrt{(x^2 -y^2)^2}}{x+y} \)
In that case, since you squared at the beginning, you have to take square root at the end to get the final answer

Let \(k\) = \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y}\)

\(k^2\) = \(\frac{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}{{(x+y)}^2}\)

Solving, you will get,

\(k^2 = (x-y)^2\)

But, since we want value of k, taking square roots on both sides,

\(k = x-y\)
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Can someone please explain why the answer isn't E? On first glance, the idea is to simplify the exponents, which i did. This seems like a question that has 2 correct answers. Thanks.
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If \(x^2 > y^2\), then \(\frac{\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4}}{x+y} =\)

A. \(x - y\)

B. \(x + y\)

C. \(\frac{x - y}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x + y}\)

E. \(\frac{x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2}{x+y}\)

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Can someone please explain why the answer isn't E? On first glance, the idea is to simplify the exponents, which i did. This seems like a question that has 2 correct answers. Thanks.


How are you getting that E is correct?

It’s not E because \(\sqrt{x^4 - 2x^2y^2 + y^4} = \sqrt{(x^2-y^2)^2} = |x^2-y^2|\). Since it’s given that \(x^2 > y^2\), we have \(|x^2-y^2| = x^2-y^2\).

But the denominator in option E, \(x^2 - \sqrt{2}xy + y^2\), does not simplify to \(x^2 - y^2\).
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