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Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

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Originally posted by Gian on 24 Apr 2013, 03:27.
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   24 Apr 2013, 04:21
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Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

Not convinced with the OA, up for discussion guys! Will post OA after some discussion.


IMO, the correct idiom is "to credit wih"

For example :

Correct usage:
Newton is credited with discovering the laws of motion

Incorrect usage:
- Newton is credited as discovering the laws of motion
- Newton is credited to having discovered the laws of motion
- Newton is credited for discovering the laws of motion

Hence, B is the correct answer


Hi Mate

Credit/to/for and with all are the correct idiom…however your answer is correct the right answer is B.

Examples:
Mary should get a lot of credit for the team's success.
We will give credit to Sharon for her good humour.
plus you have already given the example of newton for "credit with"


Yes, Credit/to/for and with all are the correct idiom when placing them after get , give have ....

BUT the only correct form for credit as a verb is TO CREDIT WITH
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   24 Apr 2013, 03:35
I think the correct idiom is "credited the Athenian Thespis to".
We have D and E left.
I discard E mostly because it doesn't fit with the next part of the sentence. (and because of for)

Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis (E) to be the inventor for Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

"to be the inventor (...) when he stepped out" seems to say that he was the inventor when stepped out, doesn't make sense.
IMO D, waiting for OA
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   24 Apr 2013, 03:47
gianprakash wrote:
Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

Not convinced with the OA, up for discussion guys! Will post OA after some discussion.


IMO, the correct idiom is "to credit wih"

For example :

Correct usage:
Newton is credited with discovering the laws of motion

Incorrect usage:
- Newton is credited as discovering the laws of motion
- Newton is credited to having discovered the laws of motion
- Newton is credited for discovering the laws of motion

Hence, B is the correct answer
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   24 Apr 2013, 07:03
The OA is B, Indeed "credit to/for/with" all are correct and depends on the context in which we are using.
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   31 Oct 2013, 08:09
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What is the grammatical flaw with C? Credited with is the correct idiom, but for some reason C sounded better to me.
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   31 Oct 2013, 08:45
Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

I think C would work if it said with the invention of, but the ing i think makes it incorrect. Can anybody confirm?
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   31 Oct 2013, 10:39
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Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

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The idiom is credited with So answer B or C

C is totally wordy, so answer B!
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   31 Oct 2013, 10:40
anujkhatiwada wrote:
Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

I think C would work if it said with the invention of, but the ing i think makes it incorrect. Can anybody confirm?


C cannot work, its wordy! It is the invention of, not the inventing of

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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   31 Oct 2013, 12:42
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anujkhatiwada wrote:
Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

I think C would work if it said with the invention of, but the ing i think makes it incorrect. Can anybody confirm?


C cannot work, its wordy! It is the invention of, not the inventing of

Hope it helps!


I agree B & C has the correct idiom..

However B says, Thespis is credited X with having invented Y

"having invended Y" says that Thespis once invented Y but not anymore. PLease clarify my confusion.
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   31 Oct 2013, 15:36
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anujkhatiwada wrote:
Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

I think C would work if it said with the invention of, but the ing i think makes it incorrect. Can anybody confirm?


C cannot work, its wordy! It is the invention of, not the inventing of

Hope it helps!


I agree B & C has the correct idiom..

However B says, Thespis is credited X with having invented Y

"having invended Y" says that Thespis once invented Y but not anymore. PLease clarify my confusion.


This is why it is a Hard question... Because the OA is not really clear but it is the only good answer...

Here, it says that the invention of Athenian tragedy has opccured in those days. "Having invented" is correct. The tense is only not often use in English!

Here, your logic must be ==> Use Credited WITH therefore only B & C / C is totally wordy therefore it MUST be B!

Hope it helps!
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   31 Oct 2013, 16:01
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hi maaadhu,
Since all the other options are eliminated only B &C remain.
In C: The inventing of...is an akward construction hence it would eliminated.
In B : with having invented... doesNOT imply that the action stopped in the past and is not present anymore. It means the action started at a particular time in the past and may be true till date.
For eg: Linda having graduated from medical school few years back joined a nearby hospital.
Here 'having graduated'--doesnot imply that Linda is not a graduate anymore.It only means that she graduated sometime in the past and this is relevant even today.
Hope it is clear.

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anujkhatiwada wrote:
Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of
(D) to have invented
(E) to be the inventor for

I think C would work if it said with the invention of, but the ing i think makes it incorrect. Can anybody confirm?


C cannot work, its wordy! It is the invention of, not the inventing of

Hope it helps!


I agree B & C has the correct idiom..

However B says, Thespis is credited X with having invented Y

"having invended Y" says that Thespis once invented Y but not anymore. PLease clarify my confusion.


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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   17 May 2015, 08:28
Can we also add that since 'credit for invention of something' is eternally relevent so having can be associated with such words. For ex - having won, having passed, having travelled, having completed, etc.

Also can someone clarify if the word following 'having' is generally in past tense

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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   16 Jul 2015, 13:09
Credited with - credit person with accomplishment (use this when person comes first)

Ex - Newton is credited with the discovery of gravity.

Credited to - credit accomplishment to person.

Ex - The team credits its success to good fortune.

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Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having invented Athenian tragedy in 535 B.C. when he stepped out from the Dionysian chorus and sang a solo in character.

(A) as having invented The idiom is credited with
(B) with having invented
(C) with the inventing of The inventing of is awkward
(D) to have invented The idiom is credited with
(E) to be the inventor for The idiom is credited with
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   20 Feb 2017, 09:51
Please explain difference between 'b' and 'd' , because credited with and credited to, both sounds to be correct.
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Please explain difference between 'b' and 'd' , because credited with and credited to, both sounds to be correct.


You need to memorize idioms from a good SC guide. Following is an excerpt from Manhattan SC guide:

Correct:
Hugo CREDITS Sally WITH good taste.
Sally IS CREDITED WITH good taste.

Wrong:
Sally IS CREDITED FOR good taste (or FOR HAVING good taste).
Sally IS CREDITED AS a person with good taste (or AS HAVING good taste).
Sally IS CREDITED TO BE a person with good taste.
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   08 Jul 2018, 22:02
credit (someone or something) with (something)
1. To apply a payment to a financial account belonging to someone or something. I think you credited the wrong account with my most recent payment.
2. To give someone praise, admiration, or acknowledgement for some task, achievement, or accomplishment. I have to credit my trainer with getting me back in shape for this season.


The answer is B because we are expressing the admiration ... Credited someone with something -- something will be noun if payments are considered.
something will be Verb+ing modifier if we are praising on the basis of the coming phrase / clause.
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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   08 Jul 2018, 22:03
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VKat wrote:
Please explain difference between 'b' and 'd' , because credited with and credited to, both sounds to be correct.


You need to memorize idioms from a good SC guide. Following is an excerpt from Manhattan SC guide:

Correct:
Hugo CREDITS Sally WITH good taste.
Sally IS CREDITED WITH good taste.

Wrong:
Sally IS CREDITED FOR good taste (or FOR HAVING good taste).
Sally IS CREDITED AS a person with good taste (or AS HAVING good taste).
Sally IS CREDITED TO BE a person with good taste.


Hi Sir,
Won't it be correct if we say
Hugo credits sally with having good taste.
Sally is credited with having good taste.
Hugo credits sally with a payment of ten thousand pounds

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Re: Ancient tradition credited the Athenian Thespis as having [#permalink] New post   09 Jul 2018, 12:39
Credit with - when we want to mention someone's or something's achievement

e.g. Pink Floyd is credited with having popularized the progressive rock genre.


Credit to - when we want to mention the source of achievement

e.g. The success of Iron Maiden as a band is credited to their galloping triplet riffs


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