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I am working on as/like and wondered about the use of "should".
Which is correct -
He acted like a president should.
OR
He acted as a president should.
I am inclined toward the latter, but I've seen both used in standard texts. Is "as" better in this case?
Does "should" by itself make a clause or a phrase?
Which is correct -
He acted like a president should.
OR
He acted as a president should.
I am inclined toward the latter, but I've seen both used in standard texts. Is "as" better in this case?
Does "should" by itself make a clause or a phrase?
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28 Dec 2015, 21:55
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Imo, ellipsis is in play here and you are not comparing nouns rather you are comparing actions.
So the correct sentences after removing ellipsis would sound:
1.he acted like a president should act
2. He acted as a president should act.
Since you are comparing 2 actions 'as' wins over 'like'
So the correct sentences after removing ellipsis would sound:
1.he acted like a president should act
2. He acted as a president should act.
Since you are comparing 2 actions 'as' wins over 'like'
28 Dec 2015, 23:00
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The main point is that ‘as’ is a preposition as well as a conjunction. So ‘as’ can be accompanied by a noun or a clause.
He acted as a president. Here as is a preposition and is used to indicate that he acted in the role of a president. This is correct.
He acted ‘as a president should’. Here as is used as conjunction (conjunctions join clauses) and hence, he acted as a present should (act) is also good.
On the other hand, ‘like’ can only act as a preposition and therefore never takes a clause. He acted ‘like the president’ is okay but he acted ‘like a president should’ is never correct.
Reg: should: Should is an auxiliary verb and is always used in company with another working verb. Therefore ‘should’ by itself cannot make a clause or phrase. Should plus another verb can be part of a clause or a phrase.
He acted as a president. Here as is a preposition and is used to indicate that he acted in the role of a president. This is correct.
He acted ‘as a president should’. Here as is used as conjunction (conjunctions join clauses) and hence, he acted as a present should (act) is also good.
On the other hand, ‘like’ can only act as a preposition and therefore never takes a clause. He acted ‘like the president’ is okay but he acted ‘like a president should’ is never correct.
Reg: should: Should is an auxiliary verb and is always used in company with another working verb. Therefore ‘should’ by itself cannot make a clause or phrase. Should plus another verb can be part of a clause or a phrase.
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Clearly the first is wrong - because like can go with nouns or pronouns, never a clause.
But the second one is also suspect IMO, ellipsis usage is not completely correct while usage of "as" is correct.
He acted as a president should have --> Correct. (acted is implied after "acted" and the complete sentence reads "He acted as a president should have acted"). The complete verb need not be repeated here because "acted" can very well sit with the present perfect construction and the helping verb is good enough to capture the idea.
He acted as a president should act --> Correct. (Presidents should act in a certain way (a general fact) and he acted accordingly (a past tense verb)). The complete verb must be repeated after "as" because the tense has changed.
He acted as a president should -> Incorrect IMO, because the verb that ellipsis is trying omit should be seen verbatim in other parts of the sentence.
"He acted as a president should (acted)" doesn't make sense.
