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# At a recent session, the French government has decided that

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At a recent session, the French government has decided that Paris needs a second, larger opera house to complement the famous Paris Opera.
(A) has decided that Paris needs
(B) decided that Paris needs
(C) has decided that Paris will need
(D) decided that Paris has a need of
(E) has decided that Paris needed

Found it difficult !!!pls help when to use has and when not !!!
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21 Oct 2008, 02:52
spriya wrote:
At a recent session, the French government has decided that Paris needs a second, larger opera house to complement the famous Paris Opera.
(A) has decided that Paris needs correct
(B) decided that Paris needs no
(C) has decided that Paris will need "will need" should be "needs"
(D) decided that Paris has a need of awkward. "needs" is better
(E) has decided that Paris needed wrong tense "needed"

Found it difficult !!!pls help when to use has and when not !!!

I choose A.

I also had this doubt. After a lot of thought I have come up with a possible explanation. I might be completely wrong, but here is what I feel ...

When do we use past perfect ? two actions in past, one before the other. The action that appears first gets the past perfect tense and the action appearing later gets past tense.

Applying the same logic here for present perfect... decision has happened in recently (has decided, present perfect) that Paris needs(present).

I am a bit confused as I type ... I may be wrong ...
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21 Oct 2008, 04:10
amitdgr wrote:
spriya wrote:
At a recent session, the French government has decided that Paris needs a second, larger opera house to complement the famous Paris Opera.
(A) has decided that Paris needs correct
(B) decided that Paris needs no
(C) has decided that Paris will need "will need" should be "needs"
(D) decided that Paris has a need of awkward. "needs" is better
(E) has decided that Paris needed wrong tense "needed"

Found it difficult !!!pls help when to use has and when not !!!

I choose A.

I also had this doubt. After a lot of thought I have come up with a possible explanation. I might be completely wrong, but here is what I feel ...

When do we use past perfect ? two actions in past, one before the other. The action that appears first gets the past perfect tense and the action appearing later gets past tense.

Applying the same logic here for present perfect... decision has happened in recently (has decided, present perfect) that Paris needs(present).

I am a bit confused as I type ... I may be wrong ...

OA is B

whats the logic ?any takers !!!
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Re: sc - decided HELP [#permalink]

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21 Oct 2008, 04:14
spriya wrote:
amitdgr wrote:
spriya wrote:
At a recent session, the French government has decided that Paris needs a second, larger opera house to complement the famous Paris Opera.
(A) has decided that Paris needs correct
(B) decided that Paris needs no
(C) has decided that Paris will need "will need" should be "needs"
(D) decided that Paris has a need of awkward. "needs" is better
(E) has decided that Paris needed wrong tense "needed"

Found it difficult !!!pls help when to use has and when not !!!

I choose A.

I also had this doubt. After a lot of thought I have come up with a possible explanation. I might be completely wrong, but here is what I feel ...

When do we use past perfect ? two actions in past, one before the other. The action that appears first gets the past perfect tense and the action appearing later gets past tense.

Applying the same logic here for present perfect... decision has happened in recently (has decided, present perfect) that Paris needs(present).

I am a bit confused as I type ... I may be wrong ...

OA is B

whats the logic ?any takers !!!

OK so I was completely wrong
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21 Oct 2008, 07:01
I chose B over A, for simple reason that action (decision) is over in recent past so simple past makes sense over present perfect.
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21 Oct 2008, 10:42
spriya wrote:
At a recent session, the French government has decided that Paris needs a second, larger opera house to complement the famous Paris Opera.
(A) has decided that Paris needs
(B) decided that Paris needs
(C) has decided that Paris will need
(D) decided that Paris has a need of
(E) has decided that Paris needed

Found it difficult !!!pls help when to use has and when not !!!

Simple past takes past tense and present continuous takes has.

We are talking about recent activity that is complete. Hence only B & D remain. D is awkward, B has clear S-V agreement
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21 Oct 2008, 10:56
I chose (B) because- After reading the sentence, see if you need a present/past perfect. If you can justify with a simple past or simple present, use simple past/present. Here, a simple past conveys the meaning and is sufficient.
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Re: sc - decided HELP [#permalink]

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21 Oct 2008, 21:53

this clears
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22 Oct 2008, 16:20
i went for B , though after a while

present perfect is not required as the argument doesn't suggest that "the decision started in the past and continued to the present "

decision was taken in some meeting , over .
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