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Hello experts , Could you please help in clarifying my doubt in Question 2:

2. The author’s use of word “supposedly” in the line 18 implies which of the following?

A) The author doubts the historical authenticity of the quotation that follows.
B) The author doubts the accuracy of the facts she is reporting.
C) The author disagrees with the judgment she is discussing.
D) The author does not believe that Stozzi’s music has the qualities cited in the quotation.
E) The author is not sure of the significance of the quotation.


I chose option E as opposed to option A primarily because per the sentence "Such an appreciation now appears
irrelevant as well as polemical in its incompleteness
because we are in a better position – with regard to both
historical knowledge and social awareness –"

I was of the opinion that the above states, the qualities mentioned are not of relevance today and hence the author was unsure of the significance of the quotation. I was under the impression that the quotation is the qualities. Can you please advise what is the flaw in my reasoning?


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The author did not mean that the qualities highlighted are not irrelevant. He is of the opinion that these qualities incompletely reflect her music...meaning there are more qualities in her music than those highlighted. So he does know the significance. This reasoning can be elicited from the lines:

"Such an appreciation now appears irrelevant as well as polemical in its incompleteness" and
" But appreciation of her style was limited by prevailing convention to an isolation of its supposedly feminine qualities".

So Choice E and D are out straightaway.

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Requesting someone to please fix the indentation of this passage. It's hard enough to comprehend the content as it is - the indentation is a further distraction that just throws the reader off completely. bb Nikhil GMATNinja
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Nikhil can you please set the above passage in justified format so that there is no confusion while reading passage?
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Requesting someone to please fix the indentation of this passage. It's hard enough to comprehend the content as it is - the indentation is a further distraction that just throws the reader off completely. bb Nikhil GMATNinja

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Nikhil can you please set the above passage in justified format so that there is no confusion while reading passage?

Line numbering and spacing of the passage is fixed, Thank you for reporting.
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Hi Experts, I was wondering if one of you could please clarify my doubts on the following questions. Would greatly appreciate it!
Let's go through your questions one at a time:

Question 2


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Q2: I am not able to see why option C is correct. I choose option D instead because of this particular line from the passage "Such an appreciation now appears irrelevant as well as polemical in its incompleteness". Isn't the author doubting on the mentioned qualities?
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"appreciation of her style was limited by prevailing convention to an isolation of its supposedly feminine qualities: “great spontaneity, exquisite grace, marvelously fine taste.” Such an appreciation now appears irrelevant as well as polemical in its incompleteness
In saying "supposedly feminine qualities", the author is not doubting that Strozzi's music contains the listed qualities. She is doubting that those qualities are feminine. The word "supposedly" shows that the author disagrees with the prevailing views of Strozzi's works because they were limited by a gender-biased viewpoint. This is expressed in answer choice (C):
Quote:
the author disagrees with the judgment she is discussing.
Answer (C) is correct for question 2.

With this analysis in mind, read answer choice (D):
Quote:
The author does not believe that Strozzi’s music has the qualities cited in the quotation.
The author states that earlier appreciation of Strozzi's music was "irrelevant and polemical in its incompleteness." This is different than stating that the music did not actually contain the cited qualities-- it just means that the author considers a sole focus on the music's "supposedly feminine qualities" to be an incomplete evaluation of Strozzi's work. (D) is out.

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Q8: I am not able to understand why option A is correct? My main confusion is how can we deduce from line 53-54 that strozzi’s works are self-revealing? I was able to understand that her songs expressed less feelings of the fictive characters that she created than her own but I am not able to see how we can deduce that her songs were "self revealing"? I opted for option C instead.
Let's take another look at the quote in question, along with its context in the passage:
Quote:
She is not a composer of dramatic works; her songs are addressed to a more intimate audience, expressing less the feeling of fictive characters than her own: “These harmonic notes,” she writes, “are the language of the soul, and instruments of the heart.”
Here, the author sets up a comparison between Strozzi's music and that of her contemporaries. The two points of comparison in this section are:
  • Strozzi's work addresses a more intimate audience, and
  • Strozzi's music expresses more of her own feelings, whereas the music of her contemporaries expresses more the feelings of fictive characters

Take a look at answer choice (C) in light of this comparison:
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(C) [The author of the passage quotes Barbara Strozzi... most probably in order to] Illustrate Strozzi’s confident approach to her art
From the above analysis, we can see that the quote has nothing to do with confidence. We also do not know if the author would consider intimate and self-expressive music more or less confident than the dramatic works of Strozzi's contemporaries. We can eliminate (C).

Now, here is answer choice (A):
Quote:
(A) [The author of the passage quotes Barbara Strozzi... most probably in order to] support the claim that Strozzi’s works are self-revealing.
This is a good fit, because Strozzi's music expresses "her own feelings," in contrast to the music of her contemporaries, which expresses the feelings of fictive characters. (A) is the correct answer for question 8.

Question 9


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Q9: I was confused between option A and C and ended up picking option A instead. In the paragraph we are given "Born in 1619 in Venice, she grew up in the home of Giulio Strozzi....Similarly, Francesca Caccini was the daughter of professional musicians and therefore exposed to music for infancy". I chose option A solely because of the word "similarly". The passage states that "similarly" FC was the daughter of the professional musicians. Can't we deduce based on the word "similarly" that BS was the daughter of GS?
For answer choice (A) to be correct, we would need to know "the exact family relationship between Giulio Strozzi and Barbara Strozzi." From the passage, we know that Strozzi "grew up in the home of Giulio Strozzi, a renowned poet" which "guaranteed her and early and full exposure to Venetian musical and literary society." This is compared to Francesca Caccini, who "was the daughter of professional musicians and therefore exposed to music from infancy." The author concludes that "this parallel suggests that such an environment may have been essential for the development of a female composer."

In saying that the situations of the two composers are "similar," the author is highlighting that both women had early exposure to music, not that they were both the daughters of prominent musicians. This is clear from the phrase "such an environment."

The passage only tells us that Barbara grew up in Giulio's house, which absolutely does not tell us the exact family relationship between the two. Maybe Giulio is her grandfather, or her uncle, or her cousin. Maybe they have the same last name but aren't related at all! The point is, we don't know based on the passage. We cannot infer the exact relationship between Barbara and Giulio Strozzi, so (A) is out.

The evidence for (C), on the other hand, is strong: Strozzi " achieved some measure of public recognition" for her work, and therefore her "compositions [were] known to her contemporaries." (C) is the right answer for question 9.

I hope that helps!


How do you understand that "self revealing" means revealing her own intimate feelings. The question says "strozzi’s works are self-revealing", which i feel that just by reading the works you can know that the works reveal its own meaning and not the feeling of the author.

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How do you understand that "self revealing" means revealing her own intimate feelings. The question says "strozzi’s works are self-revealing", which i feel that just by reading the works you can know that the works reveal its own meaning and not the feeling of the author.

Kindly explain
­Paraphrasing the final sentence slightly, we have: "Strozzi's songs express her own feeling (not the feeling of fictive characters)." In other words, the songs reveal something about Strozzi.

And since that part is followed by a colon and the quote, we expect the quote to explain or describe the part before the colon. And that's exactly what we get: Strozzi is telling us that her songs are direct communication from her soul and her heart, which is of course consistent with the idea that the songs express her own intimate feelings.

So you have two choices: (1) go with the interpretation of "self" that's supported by the passage and that makes (A) a perfect fit or (2) devise a meaning for "self-revealing" that makes (A) wrong. None of the other choices work, so you pretty much have to go with option (1).

I hope that helps!
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Hi, For (Q8) why can't the asnwer be :
D) Show why Strozzi avoided opera as both composer and performer.

Her work was not dramatic, She performed to intimate audience, her work was not about fictive characters rather about herself.
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Hi Experts, I was wondering if one of you could please clarify my doubts on the following questions. Would greatly appreciate it!
Let's go through your questions one at a time:

Question 2


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Q2: I am not able to see why option C is correct. I choose option D instead because of this particular line from the passage "Such an appreciation now appears irrelevant as well as polemical in its incompleteness". Isn't the author doubting on the mentioned qualities?
Take another look at the piece of the passage relevant to question 2:
Quote:
"appreciation of her style was limited by prevailing convention to an isolation of its supposedly feminine qualities: “great spontaneity, exquisite grace, marvelously fine taste.” Such an appreciation now appears irrelevant as well as polemical in its incompleteness
In saying "supposedly feminine qualities", the author is not doubting that Strozzi's music contains the listed qualities. She is doubting that those qualities are feminine. The word "supposedly" shows that the author disagrees with the prevailing views of Strozzi's works because they were limited by a gender-biased viewpoint. This is expressed in answer choice (C):
Quote:
the author disagrees with the judgment she is discussing.
Answer (C) is correct for question 2.

With this analysis in mind, read answer choice (D):
Quote:
The author does not believe that Strozzi’s music has the qualities cited in the quotation.
The author states that earlier appreciation of Strozzi's music was "irrelevant and polemical in its incompleteness." This is different than stating that the music did not actually contain the cited qualities-- it just means that the author considers a sole focus on the music's "supposedly feminine qualities" to be an incomplete evaluation of Strozzi's work. (D) is out.

Question 8


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Q8: I am not able to understand why option A is correct? My main confusion is how can we deduce from line 53-54 that strozzi’s works are self-revealing? I was able to understand that her songs expressed less feelings of the fictive characters that she created than her own but I am not able to see how we can deduce that her songs were "self revealing"? I opted for option C instead.
Let's take another look at the quote in question, along with its context in the passage:
Quote:
She is not a composer of dramatic works; her songs are addressed to a more intimate audience, expressing less the feeling of fictive characters than her own: “These harmonic notes,” she writes, “are the language of the soul, and instruments of the heart.”
Here, the author sets up a comparison between Strozzi's music and that of her contemporaries. The two points of comparison in this section are:
  • Strozzi's work addresses a more intimate audience, and
  • Strozzi's music expresses more of her own feelings, whereas the music of her contemporaries expresses more the feelings of fictive characters

Take a look at answer choice (C) in light of this comparison:
Quote:
(C) [The author of the passage quotes Barbara Strozzi... most probably in order to] Illustrate Strozzi’s confident approach to her art
From the above analysis, we can see that the quote has nothing to do with confidence. We also do not know if the author would consider intimate and self-expressive music more or less confident than the dramatic works of Strozzi's contemporaries. We can eliminate (C).

Now, here is answer choice (A):
Quote:
(A) [The author of the passage quotes Barbara Strozzi... most probably in order to] support the claim that Strozzi’s works are self-revealing.
This is a good fit, because Strozzi's music expresses "her own feelings," in contrast to the music of her contemporaries, which expresses the feelings of fictive characters. (A) is the correct answer for question 8.

Question 9


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Q9: I was confused between option A and C and ended up picking option A instead. In the paragraph we are given "Born in 1619 in Venice, she grew up in the home of Giulio Strozzi....Similarly, Francesca Caccini was the daughter of professional musicians and therefore exposed to music for infancy". I chose option A solely because of the word "similarly". The passage states that "similarly" FC was the daughter of the professional musicians. Can't we deduce based on the word "similarly" that BS was the daughter of GS?
For answer choice (A) to be correct, we would need to know "the exact family relationship between Giulio Strozzi and Barbara Strozzi." From the passage, we know that Strozzi "grew up in the home of Giulio Strozzi, a renowned poet" which "guaranteed her and early and full exposure to Venetian musical and literary society." This is compared to Francesca Caccini, who "was the daughter of professional musicians and therefore exposed to music from infancy." The author concludes that "this parallel suggests that such an environment may have been essential for the development of a female composer."

In saying that the situations of the two composers are "similar," the author is highlighting that both women had early exposure to music, not that they were both the daughters of prominent musicians. This is clear from the phrase "such an environment."

The passage only tells us that Barbara grew up in Giulio's house, which absolutely does not tell us the exact family relationship between the two. Maybe Giulio is her grandfather, or her uncle, or her cousin. Maybe they have the same last name but aren't related at all! The point is, we don't know based on the passage. We cannot infer the exact relationship between Barbara and Giulio Strozzi, so (A) is out.

The evidence for (C), on the other hand, is strong: Strozzi " achieved some measure of public recognition" for her work, and therefore her "compositions [were] known to her contemporaries." (C) is the right answer for question 9.

I hope that helps!
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Hi, For (Q8) why can't the asnwer be :

D) Show why Strozzi avoided opera as both composer and performer.

Her work was not dramatic, She performed to intimate audience, her work was not about fictive characters rather about herself.
The biggest problem with (D) is the "performer" part. Even if the quote indirectly suggests why Strozzi preferred to avoid composing opera, it doesn't show why Strozzi avoided opera as a performer.

Also, the quote itself doesn't show why she avoided opera. Instead, the quote supports the claim that her works are self-revealing (choice A), and the fact that her works are self-revealing helps explain why she avoided operas.

So at best, (D) is half-right and only indirectly. (A) is a better answer.
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Q3: With which of the following statements would the author of the passage be most likely to agree?
D) Late-twentieth-century music historians have more accurate historical information than their early-twentieth-century counterparts.

we all know the explaination to this question lied in the part "because we are in a better position ..."

but i think "now" means the time when the author wrote the passage, how can you guys know that time is late 20th century?
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Q3: With which of the following statements would the author of the passage be most likely to agree?

D) Late-twentieth-century music historians have more accurate historical information than their early-twentieth-century counterparts.

we all know the explaination to this question lied in the part "because we are in a better position ..."

but i think "now" means the time when the author wrote the passage, how can you guys know that time is late 20th century?

please help me!
Check out the first sentence of the second paragraph:

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"This historical distinction attracted attention to her works early in the present century."
The word "present" indicates that the author is writing later in that same century.

To be fair, the passage doesn't specifically tell us what that same century is, but keep in mind that this passage is from a 1990 paper test, when it would have made sense to refer to the early 20th century as "early in the present century."

More importantly, you can use POE to eliminate the other options.

Still not convinced? Well, this question was retired decades ago, so don't sweat it too much. ;)
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In ques 3, option D is correct because of the line which says "Such an appreciation now appears irrelevant as well as polemical in its incompleteness because we are in a better position – with regard to both historical knowledge and social awareness – to attempt a more precise evaluation of a somewhat anomalous figure like Barbara Strozzi" , BUT the passage nowhere mentions - Late-twentieth-century and early-twentieth-century. Why should we assume the comparison between the beginning and end of some century which is not even discussed in the passage. I mean if the comparison would have been say between seventeenth century (which the passage is about) vs twentieth, then it would have made sense, but here talking about the comparison between same century while the info piece is of seventeenth century so are we assuming that the knowledge gap is constant and it keeps on increasing with passage of time? basically i eliminated this choice just because of the word twentieth century.
Could you please guide me how should i correct the flaw in my reasoning?


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Let's go through your questions one at a time:

Question 2



Take another look at the piece of the passage relevant to question 2:

In saying "supposedly feminine qualities", the author is not doubting that Strozzi's music contains the listed qualities. She is doubting that those qualities are feminine. The word "supposedly" shows that the author disagrees with the prevailing views of Strozzi's works because they were limited by a gender-biased viewpoint. This is expressed in answer choice (C):

Answer (C) is correct for question 2.

With this analysis in mind, read answer choice (D):

The author states that earlier appreciation of Strozzi's music was "irrelevant and polemical in its incompleteness." This is different than stating that the music did not actually contain the cited qualities-- it just means that the author considers a sole focus on the music's "supposedly feminine qualities" to be an incomplete evaluation of Strozzi's work. (D) is out.

Question 8



Let's take another look at the quote in question, along with its context in the passage:

Here, the author sets up a comparison between Strozzi's music and that of her contemporaries. The two points of comparison in this section are:
  • Strozzi's work addresses a more intimate audience, and
  • Strozzi's music expresses more of her own feelings, whereas the music of her contemporaries expresses more the feelings of fictive characters

Take a look at answer choice (C) in light of this comparison:

From the above analysis, we can see that the quote has nothing to do with confidence. We also do not know if the author would consider intimate and self-expressive music more or less confident than the dramatic works of Strozzi's contemporaries. We can eliminate (C).

Now, here is answer choice (A):

This is a good fit, because Strozzi's music expresses "her own feelings," in contrast to the music of her contemporaries, which expresses the feelings of fictive characters. (A) is the correct answer for question 8.

Question 9



For answer choice (A) to be correct, we would need to know "the exact family relationship between Giulio Strozzi and Barbara Strozzi." From the passage, we know that Strozzi "grew up in the home of Giulio Strozzi, a renowned poet" which "guaranteed her and early and full exposure to Venetian musical and literary society." This is compared to Francesca Caccini, who "was the daughter of professional musicians and therefore exposed to music from infancy." The author concludes that "this parallel suggests that such an environment may have been essential for the development of a female composer."

In saying that the situations of the two composers are "similar," the author is highlighting that both women had early exposure to music, not that they were both the daughters of prominent musicians. This is clear from the phrase "such an environment."

The passage only tells us that Barbara grew up in Giulio's house, which absolutely does not tell us the exact family relationship between the two. Maybe Giulio is her grandfather, or her uncle, or her cousin. Maybe they have the same last name but aren't related at all! The point is, we don't know based on the passage. We cannot infer the exact relationship between Barbara and Giulio Strozzi, so (A) is out.

The evidence for (C), on the other hand, is strong: Strozzi " achieved some measure of public recognition" for her work, and therefore her "compositions [were] known to her contemporaries." (C) is the right answer for question 9.

I hope that helps!
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You eliminated D because you felt the 20th-century comparison was out of scope.

Bur, look at this passage structure:

Lines 14-20 (EARLY 20th century scholars):
  • "This historical distinction attracted attention to her works early in the present century"
  • Their view: isolated "feminine qualities" - "spontaneity, exquisite grace"
  • Assessment: LIMITED, INCOMPLETE

Lines 20-25 (LATE 20th century - "now"):
  • "Such an appreciation now appears irrelevant"
  • "we are in a better position – with regard to both historical knowledge and social awareness"
  • Assessment: MORE COMPLETE, MORE ACCURATE

The phrase "early in the present century" (line 14) → early 1900s The phrase "now" (line 20) → later 1900s (when passage was written)

The passage explicitly contrasts:
  • THEN (early 20th century): limited historical knowledge → incomplete appreciation
  • NOW (late 20th century): "better position" with "historical knowledge" → more precise evaluation

This is a direct, literal comparison between early-twentieth-century and late-twentieth-century music historians.

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In ques 3, option D is correct because of the line which says "Such an appreciation now appears irrelevant as well as polemical in its incompleteness because we are in a better position – with regard to both historical knowledge and social awareness – to attempt a more precise evaluation of a somewhat anomalous figure like Barbara Strozzi" , BUT the passage nowhere mentions - Late-twentieth-century and early-twentieth-century. Why should we assume the comparison between the beginning and end of some century which is not even discussed in the passage. I mean if the comparison would have been say between seventeenth century (which the passage is about) vs twentieth, then it would have made sense, but here talking about the comparison between same century while the info piece is of seventeenth century so are we assuming that the knowledge gap is constant and it keeps on increasing with passage of time? basically i eliminated this choice just because of the word twentieth century.
Could you please guide me how should i correct the flaw in my reasoning?


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her baroque made her "a somewhat anomalous figure".
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