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Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers.

(A) of several hundred that often have many queens as well as

(B) of several hundred, often with many of them being queens as well as having

(C) having several hundred, and often many of them are queens as well as

(D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as

(E) with several hundred that often have many queens as well as having

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A) of several hundred that often have many queens as well as - Correct - 'that' refers to colonies

B) of several hundred, often with many of them being queens as well as having - Incorrect - Awkward

C) having several hundred, and often many of them are queens as well as - Incorrect - Pronoun error - them can refer to colonies or bumblebees

D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as - Incorrect - Pronoun error

E) with several hundred that often have many queens as well as having - Incorrect - Parallelism error

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Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers

A)

B) of several hundred, often with many of them being queens as well as having

C) having several hundred, and often many of them are queens as well as

D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as

E) with several hundred that often have many queens as well as having


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Responding to a PM on why A is better than D..


A) Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers
Clear and concise meaning..
Bumblebees stay in several hundreds of numbers in colonies and these colonies consist of many queens as well as workers..


D) Bumblebees live in colonies that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as a large number of workers
Here the flaws are..

1) with many queens as well as a large number of workers...
It illogically means that bumblebees stay with many queens and workers. This in turn means bumblebees are different from Queens and workers..
Ofcourse they are part of bumblebees

2) Usage of 'that' after colonies restricts the colonies...
so now it means that bumblebees stay in COLONIES that have several hundred of them... I can further inference from this that they do not live in colonies that do not have several hundred of them..
Ofcourse if a colony consist of 1 or 1000 of them, it is a colony of bumblebees

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aniketm.87@gmail.com wrote:
Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers

A)

B) of several hundred, often with many of them being queens as well as having

C) having several hundred, and often many of them are queens as well as

D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as

E) with several hundred that often have many queens as well as having


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Responding to a PM on why A is better than D..


A) Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers
Clear and concise meaning..
Bumblebees stay in several hundreds of numbers in colonies and these colonies consist of many queens as well as workers..


D) Bumblebees live in colonies that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as a large number of workers
Here the flaws are..
1) with many queens as well as[/u] a large number of workers...
It illogically means that bumblebees stay with many queens and workers. This in turn means bumblebees are different from Queens and workers..
Ofcourse tye are part of bumblebees
2) Usage of 'that' after colonies restricts the colonies...
so now it means that bumblebees stay in COLONIES that have several hundred of them... I can further inference from this that they do not live in colonies that do not have several hundred of them..
Ofcourse if a colony consist of 1 or 1000 of them, it is a colony of bumblebees

Hope it helps


I am replying to the same query as well. In addition to Chetan's crisp and clear explanations, I have the following little point to add:

Option D. The relative pronoun "that" refers to "colonies". This structure implies that all the colonies (together) consist of several hundred of bumblebees. However the implied meaning is that each colony consists of several hundred of them. Therefore option D is wrong.

Option A. The above mistake is eliminated by using "colonies of several hundred" - this structure implies that each colony has several hundred bumblebees. Another example:
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Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers

A)

B) of several hundred, often with many of them being queens as well as having

C) having several hundred, and often many of them are queens as well as

D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as

E) with several hundred that often have many queens as well as having


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That has 2 usage :

1. That acts as the subject of the Clause
2. That acts as the connector of 2 clauses

Here that clearly refers to the Bumblebees...

Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that ( Colonies) often have many queens as well as a large number of workers.

Hence IMHO (A) is correct
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Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that ( Bumblebees ) often have many queens as well as a large number of workers.

Hence IMHO (A) is correct


That refers to Colonies
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Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that ( Bumblebees ) often have many queens as well as a large number of workers.

Hence IMHO (A) is correct


That refers to Colonies



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in D, what does 'often with many queens as well as large number of workers' modify? please explain.
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in D, what does 'often with many queens as well as large number of workers' modify? please explain.


It refer to 'colonies'
The sentence is conveying that
a) The bumblebees live in colonies.
b) Each colony comprises of several hundred bumblebees
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c) These colonies have queen as well as large number of workers.

Hope this clarifies your doubt!
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Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers

A) of several hundred that often have many queens as well as

B) of several hundred, often with many of them being queens as well as having

C) having several hundred, and often many of them are queens as well as

D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as

E) with several hundred that often have many queens as well as having



I met this question today in the gmat prep 2, and I haven't found any threads about it.
I use parallel rule to rule out B, E.
And I remember that "having" can only be used as a unrestrictive modifier, so I rule out C.
But I cannot decide between A&D.

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Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers

A) of several hundred that often have many queens as well as- implies that colonies are several hundreds in number and many colonies have many queens .....

D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as- implies each colony have several hundred of bumblebees with many queens ....

I don't find any mistake in either of the choices. In such case, stick to the original meaning unless the original choice has a logical/meaning error.
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Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers

A) of several hundred that often have many queens as well as

B) of several hundred, often with many of them being queens as well as having

C) having several hundred, and often many of them are queens as well as

D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as

E) with several hundred that often have many queens as well as having



I met this question today in the gmat prep 2, and I haven't found any threads about it.
I use parallel rule to rule out B, E.
And I remember that "having" can only be used as a unrestrictive modifier, so I rule out C.
But I cannot decide between A&D.

Thanks in advance!


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You can refer to the below post for a detailed discussion on this question.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/bumblebees-l ... 18099.html

Hope it clarifies your doubt.
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I guess I need to change a search engine. I didn't find this thread yesterday. :grin:
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One more question.. Is it correct to think that "having" can only be used as unrestrictive modifier (to eliminate C)?
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I am still not clear with the usage of "that" in option A...


"That" refers to the Preceding Noun.... so in option A isn't "that" referring to "several hundred (bumblebees)" ??


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I am still not clear with the usage of [b]"that" in option A...[/b]


" That " refers to the Preceding Noun.... so in option A isn't [b]"that" referring to "several hundred (bumblebees)" ??[/b]

"Bumblebees" isn't the nearest noun to the word "that" in (A): "colonies of several hundred" is also a noun, and it's much closer to the modifier. And the phrase "that often have many queens..." certainly could logically modify "colonies of several hundred."

For more on the uses of the word "that" on the GMAT -- especially as a modifier -- check out this article: https://gmatclub.com/forum/experts-topi ... 43686.html.

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aniketm.87@gmail.com wrote:
Bumblebees live in colonies of several hundred that often have many queens as well as a large number of workers.

(A) of several hundred that often have many queens as well as

(B) of several hundred, often with many of them being queens as well as having

(C) having several hundred, and often many of them are queens as well as

(D) that have several hundred of them, often with many queens as well as

(E) with several hundred that often have many queens as well as having



Initially i pick D as the correct answer however it is not. The correct answer is the A. Here is the reason why
The conjunction "that" refers to the colonies and not the phrase "of several hundred". And this the mistake which i did earlier. The colonies have many queens as well as many co-workers.

Hope this makes the clear.

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