Ke18sbwhatever your name is. chill out buddy. I was being FACETIOUS in case you didn't pick up on that. I clearly don't take the process very seriously because i believe that many of these admissions teams make decisions that are ludicrous in terms of what I believe a business school should be looking for but thats me. I find it funny that you call me naive a couple times too but thats cool.
honestly though, after i posted my response i had a pang of regret because i anticipated an annoying email or two coming my way from some tightwad with no sense of humor, who would lash out at me and get all bent out of shape because he essentially takes himself QUITE seriously. Looks like that "tightwad "was you bro.
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To address all of the kind friends who have been asking for some more info, I am more than happy to let you guys know that i DINGED fuqua today... and must say it felt great to turn the tables after they waitlisted me. fantastic in fact. hahahahahh. No but seriously i told them I unfortunately made a committment (mentally , verbally and financially) since I was not hearing back from duke and I dont think its right to back out on them- especially since its a good school that i had also been interested in. Thank you so much for considering me though. basically i said "you snooze you lose" (didnt actually say it but im sure they got the message)
bottom line guys- SOMEONE will be receiving an offer very shortly! So you gotta be psyched about that! OH- also I asked a few questions on my phone call just to get a feel for what was going on with them. Asked if they knew how big the class was.. couldnt tell me. asked if they were pretty much complete... GOT THE SENSE THAT THEY WERE NOT.
GOT THE SENSE THAT THEY WILL BE MAKING MORE OFFERS- SEVERAL MORE IN FACT.
and this is why i say that... i asked if the class was full and they did not say yes. In fact, they said "we will be completing the class through an ongoing process throughout the summer". so i guess thats good news but def kinda sucks that they drag it out. I also got the sense that from here on out there wont be one specific DAY where they release decisions, it will be more like one off situations like with me yesterday and the other kid they called. So really, any day now you could potentially hear and i think that will remain the case for several months.
ALSO- and this kinda pi##ed me off- They wanted me to make the deposit by THURSDAY. THATS TOMORROW. like are you kidding me?? first you waitlist me and now you pressure me into accepting in TWO DAYS so that I have no time to even think or weigh my options? I really didnt like that.
i also didnt like it when i read a bunch of people who got off dukes waitlist this year got the call, but were first asked "so.. if you get an offer you will DEFINITELY accept?" thats not cool. that would indicate that the offer is contingent upon you committing before you even get it. Even if thats not the case, they put that pressure on so heavy that if you do say yes and arent really sure, you basically look like a scumbag for then backing out. not a fan of that tactic, i mean cmon I know yield is important but it shows no respect for the waitlister. The kids they let in had weeks to respond and think before the deposit. They not only put you on the spot and pressure you to commit trying to scare you into accepting, but they then- to add insult to injury- make you pay them a deposit in two days. Not cool. these were all legitimate turn offs for me.
and yes mr ke18sbg289 whatever your name is, i know thats not a valid reason not to choose a school, but guess what- FOR ME IT IS.
along the same lines: everyone is free to choose his or her school based on whatever criteria they value more. And yes i do in fact value an environment where I believe people to be more abstract, outside the box thinkers. Its stimulating, its challenging and you find yourself growing intellectually tremendously when your peers are pushing you to do so. So you clearly have some kindve a chip on your shoulder but im not sure what it is. I forgive you though. you probably didnt mean it.
things will all work out in the end, so dont worry so much. Im telling you, i didnt think i would get in anywhere. i got several rejections and was ready to not go to school at all.. then waitlisted at duke and that was like the final straw.
BUT HERE IS AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION for the gentleman who asked me about what i DID to get off. ANd the simple answer is NOT MUCH AT ALL. i think this is key for some of the people who believe that bombarding them with info is the way to go. Hellno. Show your interest. STATE IT. if you would enroll if accepted, then state that. THATS IT. you look more attractive that way. The whole update thing is bs. They dont really care. They want to know if you will go and look- if you have anything that you think was a weakness on your app, correct it. Bottom line is only give updates that will add SIGNIFICANT value,
I have found this entire process to be just like everything else in human nature. You want what you cant have, OR, you want something or someone MORE when you feel like they are losing interest in YOU. When i first got my waitlist letter i accepted right away and wrote a quick EMAIL like 3 lines stating my interest. and i left it at that. I also let them know that i was into several other schools and although i really want to go to duke i will have some deadlines coming up,.. casually mentioned it though, and didnt ask anything of them. just thought they should know. I also said i WOULD SEND some materials. and in fact i NEVER followed up.
which is not good if you want to go to that school right? I would think so.
but regardless they called me and gave me the offer, and apologized for making me wait on the waitlist! you know what i think? I think they could SENSE that i was losing interest which was apparent also in my lack of enthusiasm or rather, the fact that i wasnt shamelessly KISSING UP the way so many candidates do and then wonder why they didnt get in. DONT ACT DESPERATE. that is the key. state interest and then get the hell out of there.
if they want you they will call. but let me ask you a question: who do you think they want to scoop up more- the kid who is begging them for a spot and acting pathetic by sending emails all the time with lame updates of no substance? Or the kid who keeps his cool, and although he said duke is where he wants to go, he doesn't seem to be sweating it. If i were on admissions, i would assume we might be losing that kid to another school, and I would act on HIM as soon as I had the chance. On the other hand, you leave the desperate kid on the back burner as a backup for as long as possible, because you know for damn sure that he will accept the offer whenever you call him.
thoughts?
PLAY IT COOL= GET INTO SCHOOL
disclaimer for anyone like ke18sbag who wants to crucify me for something i said in jest: These are opinions of kida only, could be wrong, probably arent, but take them or leave them. Its merely what I have garnered through MY personal experience and my experience has led me to believe that everything you are "told" to do throughout this mba process is mostly totally bs, and lame, and that you should use your instinct to know what is appropriate and what isnt, and to realize how human nature works, how relationships work. if you want to be good at business you need to know how to handle an admissions staff or a boss or whoever. IF THEY LIKE YOU< THEY ACCEPT YOU. they are human, ya know? you could have the best stats in the world but if you come off like a stiff pri&k with no personality chances are you are rejected (at least at the kidA b school. KBS BABY)
good luck evryone . and seriously no hard feelings K-man