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Hello all,

I am applying to 2nd round Duke. I am due a promotion in Feb this year for which my manager has given me confirmation .. but I would be receiving a letter in January only .. Can I use this information in my essays and resume .. ? Please suggest what is the right way to use this info .. Thanks ..
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I am applying to 2nd round Duke. I am due a promotion in Feb this year for which my manager has given me confirmation .. but I would be receiving a letter in January only .. Can I use this information in my essays and resume .. ? Please suggest what is the right way to use this info .. Thanks ..

You definitely cannot use this in your resume, but you can and should mention this in your essays when you outline your career growth over the years.
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In the online application, Duke specifically asks this question and the consultant name if you choose yes. In one of the events, another applicant told me that Haas Adcom said those use admission consultants would be put into a separate pool. Is that true?

How many people in this forum actually work with consultant at all? English is not my native language and I think Adcom can tell right away if I used a consultant to review/edit my essays.
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No one really knows how the AdCom looks at the use of admission consultants. My advice is to answer truthfully. It would be obvious if your AWA score is low then you write an immaculate admissions essay. If you answered "no", it would definitely ring a bell with the AdCom.
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Tricky Question, I was truthful but in a twisted way.

I used an admissions consultant for 3 of my schools and Duke was my 4th. I did the app myself, but ofcourse had a lot of refined content from my previous essays.

Even if I had a low AWA (I had 5.0), how would the Adcom decipher if an applicant with low AWA used a consultant for Duke
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I used an admissions consultant for Fuqua as well (mbamission). I had the same concern so I called Fuqua and asked them straight up. The adcom I spoke with said the question was "purely for market research." he also said it would not be used in the evaluation part of the process. My consultant also called and got the same answer.

I agree that you have to answer this thing truthfully. Not sure how they would find out, but would hate to have a matter of integrity hanging over my head.

I personally think that given the well established presence of admissions consultants that it would be very messed up for them to start holding it against candidates without advertising it on their website, in their info sessions, and everywhere else. The only place they mention it is on the application.

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For prospective students! Check out the admissions Q&A on the student blog. https://ow.ly/7x4oK
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Even if I had a low AWA (I had 5.0), how would the Adcom decipher if an applicant with low AWA used a consultant for Duke
I was referring to the OP's question. If you were an international applicant with a low AWA (I believe AdCom has access to your AWA essay as well), and you write a perfect essay without any grammar mistakes. That would be very fishy without the help of someone.
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Yes, but who counts as an admissions consultant? If you get an english major to help clean up your essay, does that count?
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Yes, but who counts as an admissions consultant? If you get an english major to help clean up your essay, does that count?
probably only if you are paying a professional. but point taken. all speculations. AdCom is a black box here.
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Article from Poets and Quants: https://poetsandquants.com/2011/11/16/mc ... duke-haas/

McKinsey Doubles MBA Hires At Duke

McKinsey & Co., the largest single recruiter of MBAs from top schools, significantly expanded its hires this year at Chicago Booth, Duke Fuqua, Michigan Ross and Berkeley’s Haas School. The global consulting firm’s got its largest supply of recently minted MBAs from Chicago Booth and Columbia Business School where it brought 39 MBAs from each school aboard, according to an analysis by Poets&Quants.

McKinsey’s hires from Booth were up 62.5% from the 24 Chicago MBAs it employed last year. The firm’s hires from both Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business and Berkeley’s Haas School more than doubled, to 15 from 7 at Duke and to 16 from 7 at Haas. The only business school whose McKinsey hires went down this year was Wharton which reported sending 38 MBAs to the firm versus 44 last year. Harvard and Stanford do not release information on their largest MBA hirers.

Rivals Bain & Co. and Boston Consulting Group, meantime, found Northwestern University’s Kellogg School an attractive hunting ground. Bain hired 24 Kellogg MBAs, up from 17 last year, while BCG brought aboard 30 Kellogg MBAs this year, the highest number for any top reporting business school. Bain also hired 18 MBAs each from both Wharton and Chicago Booth and a dozen from Columbia.

The biggest beneficiary of Deloitte Consulting’s increased recruiting of MBAs this year was Duke’s Fuqua. That school sent a whopping 35 MBAs to Deloitte, nearly a six-fold increase over the half dozen MBAs Deloitte hired form Fuqua last year. Deloitte also hired 20 MBAs from Michigan’s Ross School, up from 11 in 2010, and nine from Berkeley’s Haas School.

Most B-schools do not yet have their 2011 employment reports on their websites so this is an early glimpse of the most important employers of the top MBAs. This data was recently reported by the schools to Bloomberg BusinessWeek which asked schools to list their top hirers for the Class of 2011 (see tables below for the results). When the schools publish their full employment reports, we’ll update the story and the tables.

Yet, just counting the MBA recruits by the largest employers from ten top schools, provides a valuable look at the companies that literally make the market for the degree. McKinsey had 248 MBA hires from just ten schools, not including Harvard or Stanford, two favorite hunting grounds. BCG came next with 150 hired MBAS, while Bain & Co. was third with 109 and Deloitte Consulting was fourth with 92 MBA hires.

From the ten schools, Amazon hired more MBAs than any of the big financial service players. Amazon took away 62 MBAs this year, compared to 57 by Goldman Sachs and 54 by J.P. Morgan Chase. Microsoft hired 38 MBAs from these schools, while Google picked up 34 MBAs. In all cases, these are highly conservative numbers because these companies also recruit and hire at schools at which they were not listed among the top ten employers this year.

Among the big prestige finance players, Goldman Sachs seemed to heavily favor Wharton and Columbia. Goldman hired 24 MBAs from Wharton this year and 18 from Columbia, far eclipsing its hires from other business schools. Goldman, for example, hired six from Chicago, five from Duke, and four from Dartmouth’s Tuck School. J.P. Morgan Chase found lots of talent at Wharton, too, hiring 14 from the school, its highest number of hires among the schools reporting this data. Every other school was in single digits: Columbia (9), Chicago (8), Michigan (7), Tuck (5), Duke (5), and Virginia’s Darden School (5).

Among the big tech firms, Amazon continued its MBA hiring binge. The e-commerce giant hired 17 MBAs from the Univeristy of Michigan’s Ross School of Business and 15 from Wharton. Google employed 11 MBAs from Wharton, 10 from MIT Sloan, eight from Berkeley’s Haas School, and five from Kellogg. Apple hired seven from Duke’s Fuqua School and six from Kellogg. Microsoft employed 16 Wharton MBAs this year, 10 Darden MBAs, seven Sloan grads, and five from the Haas School.
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Inside Duke Fuqua's Admissions office - What happens when you click the "submit" button?

Liz Riley Hargrove, Associate dean of admissions, Duke Fuqua - Duke Fuqua’s admissions application process is completely online. Once applicants submit their applications, our operations team makes sure that all of the required information and supplimentary materials have been received.

Application files are then organized via our online system and distributed to an admissions team member for in-depth evaluations. Each application gets a complete read,independently by at least two admissions committee members and is then presented to the admissions committee for discussion and final decision..... read more
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Does anyone when the admitted applicants for EA round will hear from the school? Even though the website says Dec 5th, going through the last year's forums suggests that they usually notify the applicants the business day before, which is Dec 2nd.
Also, would it be an email notification or would every admitted applicant receive a call?

That's incorrect. Last year, EA applicants were notified the day of the decision date, Fri, 12/3/10, at 12:00 pm EST.
The prior year, applicants were notified one business day early, on Fri, 11/20/09, at 9:45 am EST, instead of 11/24/09.
The prior year, applicants were notified on the day-of, on Fri, 11/14/08, at 11:00 am EST.


So the trend is notification on Fridays. My guess is EA decisions will be out on 12/2/11.


Applicants get an email alerting them to log in to their application b/c of a status change. Once logged into the site, the application has a notification letter, and upon opening it, you find out whether or not you got in.

Note that the email is only generated about 10 minutes after your application status changes. So you benefit slightly by pressing refresh like a maniac all day.
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Does anyone when the admitted applicants for EA round will hear from the school? Even though the website says Dec 5th, going through the last year's forums suggests that they usually notify the applicants the business day before, which is Dec 2nd.
Also, would it be an email notification or would every admitted applicant receive a call?

That's incorrect. Last year, EA applicants were notified the day of the decision date, Fri, 12/3/10, at 12:00 pm EST.
The prior year, applicants were notified one business day early, on Fri, 11/20/09, at 9:45 am EST, instead of 11/24/09.
The prior year, applicants were notified on the day-of, on Fri, 11/14/08, at 11:00 am EST.


So the trend is notification on Fridays. My guess is EA decisions will be out on 12/2/11.


Applicants get an email alerting them to log in to their application b/c of a status change. Once logged into the site, the application has a notification letter, and upon opening it, you find out whether or not you got in.

Note that the email is only generated about 10 minutes after your application status changes. So you benefit slightly by pressing refresh like a maniac all day.

I really hope you're right because I would rather not spend the weekend between Dec 2nd and the 5th anxiously anticipating the decision. In any case, I am hoping for the best but expecting the worst. Therefore, I will not expect the decisions to go out until 5:00 p.m. EST on Monday, Dec. 5th.
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Hi Jonathan, thank you for the information that you posted. It is surprising that even admitted candidates have to log in to the website to check their status. I was expecting the admitted candidates to receive a separate congratulatory email at the time of the decision. But in any case, I hope for the best.
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I was interviewed on campus for EA the last weekend. Two days later, I sent a "thank you" message to my interviewer. One week has passed, but I got no reply from the interviewer. Does it mean it's going to be a negative on my application? I am a little nervous...Praying for the best.

Does anyone have similar experience? Thanks.
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I was interviewed on campus for EA the last weekend. Two days later, I sent a "thank you" message to my interviewer. One week has passed, but I got no reply from the interviewer. Does it mean it's going to be a negative on my application? I am a little nervous...Praying for the best.

Does anyone have similar experience? Thanks.

Hardly think so - many interviewers are extremely busy and hence he/she may not have even read your email. Further, some know that the follow up email is pure formality so they may not feel too driven to reply as well. I wouldn't worry about this - and definitely no negative effects on your application

On another note, does anyone have a sense of when R1 applicants start getting interview invites? The website says by 14th Dec, but is that actually a 'by' or 'on'? Thanks
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