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New post 28 Feb 2016, 22:46
Hi mindsprout,

How did you realize it was a stress interview?

Even if it was one, they would definitely like to look how cool and composed you are.

Do not go by what has happened with others.

Just relax and stay normal.

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Souvilibra,

I'm no expert, however, IMHO it reflects extremely poorly if someone says they were swayed by others' opinions. You will receive several opinions during the MBA and get pulled in 100 different directions but its your conviction/direction/focus which will lead to your success (isn't it?). So if you say you were swayed even before entering an MBA it reflects poorly.

Please note, this is not an answer to "should I change my career goals" but rather to "what would an adcom perceive if I wrote I was swayed by others' opinions"

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Need an expert comment!
I was a Round 1 applicant and denied after interview. Before Gmat I was clear that I wanted to MBA in finance(I've been working in BFS domain for close to 6 years now), but as I went through the process, and suggested by many(Current students, alumnus, consultants) that the obvious path for me would be to get into consulting. And so I stated consulting in my essays. However, I was not confident about and probably that reflected in my interviews.

I would be taking my GMAT again as 680 did not help me either. I wanted to know if I change my career goals this time, will it go against me and would it be fair to mention that I got swayed by opinions for choosing consultancy?

Thanks in advance!

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Souvilibra,

I'm no expert, however, IMHO it reflects extremely poorly if someone says they were swayed by others' opinions. You will receive several opinions during the MBA and get pulled in 100 different directions but its your conviction/direction/focus which will lead to your success (isn't it?). So if you say you were swayed even before entering an MBA it reflects poorly.

Please note, this is not an answer to "should I change my career goals" but rather to "what would an adcom perceive if I wrote I was swayed by others' opinions"

Cheers,
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Thanks man, yeah I get that! Basically, I did not make myself clear here.
I wanted to understand whether changing career goals would be the right thing since they must be having access to my previous essays(Obviously I wont be mentioning why I am changing goals, unless I am asked, that too probably in interviews).
I mean changing goals every year in essays will obviously be dangerous, or it wont? That's my question!
For me, yes I was anxious to get an admit, and after listening to many people and reading thousands of stories, I thought it would be better to go the obvious way. But I realized that its not what I want after round 1 and corrected myself in round 2 applications. Well we all make wrong decisions, don't we?

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Need an expert comment!
I was a Round 1 applicant and denied after interview. Before Gmat I was clear that I wanted to MBA in finance(I've been working in BFS domain for close to 6 years now), but as I went through the process, and suggested by many(Current students, alumnus, consultants) that the obvious path for me would be to get into consulting. And so I stated consulting in my essays. However, I was not confident about and probably that reflected in my interviews.

I would be taking my GMAT again as 680 did not help me either. I wanted to know if I change my career goals this time, will it go against me and would it be fair to mention that I got swayed by opinions for choosing consultancy?

Thanks in advance!


Hi,

Disclaimer: Not an expert opinion, thoughts from a candidate like you.

I am not surprised that many have influenced you to move towards 'Consulting' probably keeping in backdrop the fact that ISB is not the right school if you want to do something in core finance. Now, this is not wrong provided you yourself were convinced from the theory. But it looks like you were not very comfortable with the idea of moving into Consulting. And also, your entire motivation of pursuing MBA would have come from doing something into Finance which clearly never got included in your essays/interview questions. In my view what you yourself believe into, that should be the way forward.

My word would be to change the essays which are in-line with your long-term/short-term goals. You could use the additional essay for explaining the thought process that why finance is the right way forward for you and how you have used this one year to think again about your plans etc.

Tons of luck!

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just wondering how does isb announce their results ?

a phone call or email (for acceptance)

guessing its just an email for a ding

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just wondering how does isb announce their results ?

a phone call or email (for acceptance)

guessing its just an email for a ding


ISB will send everyone a mail, whatever the result is. Also, it will be updated simultaneously on your portal. Keep checking both.. :wink:

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By what time are the results supposed to be announced?

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By what time are the results supposed to be announced?


Hi,

If R1 results are the precedent, results will likely come on 5th evening (likely to be after 6 pm). Rest is anyone's best guess. In case of any doubts, you can write to ISB for any update.

Wish you luck for the results!

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Thanks man, yeah I get that! Basically, I did not make myself clear here.
I wanted to understand whether changing career goals would be the right thing since they must be having access to my previous essays(Obviously I wont be mentioning why I am changing goals, unless I am asked, that too probably in interviews).
I mean changing goals every year in essays will obviously be dangerous, or it wont? That's my question!
For me, yes I was anxious to get an admit, and after listening to many people and reading thousands of stories, I thought it would be better to go the obvious way. But I realized that its not what I want after round 1 and corrected myself in round 2 applications. Well we all make wrong decisions, don't we?



Hi souvilibra,

Don't bang yourself on the head for writing consulting as a career goal, when you were not very convinced about it. It happens all the time, by most candidates, and frankly I will not hold a gun against you for writing something that you did not mean to do after MBA.

However, I always tell all my applicants that they must be super clear about their career goals by the time of the interview so that they can defend their choice if questioned about it. Secondly, your career goals should make sense considering your past experiences and skills set. It seems to me its one of these areas where you lacked.

There is no harm in changing your career goals as a reapplicant, but do mention what made you change them (for example- I realized new ones realign better with my strengths). You should be able to defend this answer as well.

Now ISB does have a dearth of financial roles, so you must do your research on whether your new goals will get you an admit there. Eventually, the adcom/ career services will give you admission if they think they can get you the role you want after MBA. From this perspective, cast a wider net and apply to the IIMs (B & C) as well.

(btw, I think I have responded to your query earlier as well, so you will just have to read my response all over again)
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Souvilibra,



Thanks man, yeah I get that! Basically, I did not make myself clear here.
I wanted to understand whether changing career goals would be the right thing since they must be having access to my previous essays(Obviously I wont be mentioning why I am changing goals, unless I am asked, that too probably in interviews).
I mean changing goals every year in essays will obviously be dangerous, or it wont? That's my question!
For me, yes I was anxious to get an admit, and after listening to many people and reading thousands of stories, I thought it would be better to go the obvious way. But I realized that its not what I want after round 1 and corrected myself in round 2 applications. Well we all make wrong decisions, don't we?



Hi souvilibra,

Don't bang yourself on the head for writing consulting as a career goal, when you were not very convinced about it. It happens all the time, by most candidates, and frankly I will not hold a gun against you for writing something that you did not mean to do after MBA.

However, I always tell all my applicants that they must be super clear about their career goals by the time of the interview so that they can defend their choice if questioned about it. Secondly, your career goals should make sense considering your past experiences and skills set. It seems to me its one of these areas where you lacked.

There is no harm in changing your career goals as a reapplicant, but do mention what made you change them (for example- I realized new ones realign better with my strengths). You should be able to defend this answer as well.

Now ISB does have a dearth of financial roles, so you must do your research on whether your new goals will get you an admit there. Eventually, the adcom/ career services will give you admission if they think they can get you the role you want after MBA. From this perspective, cast a wider net and apply to the IIMs (B & C) as well.

(btw, I think I have responded to your query earlier as well, so you will just have to read my response all over again)


Hi Namita,

Your reply did ring a bell in one corner of my mind. I had the same discussion with some of the current students at ISB.

Glad we have some expert here at help. Does not having enough offers from financial services world stop ISB from taking students from finance background in general. I mean do they keep this in mind that despite of being a good applicant we (as in ISB) may not be able to get him/her a suitable job so reject him/her?

Would like to hear your views on the same.

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Hi Namita,

Your reply did ring a bell in one corner of my mind. I had the same discussion with some of the current students at ISB.

Glad we have some expert here at help. Does not having enough offers from financial services world stop ISB from taking students from finance background in general. I mean do they keep this in mind that despite of being a good applicant we (as in ISB) may not be able to get him/her a suitable job so reject him/her?

Would like to hear your views on the same.

Kunal Arora[/quote][/quote]


Yes, I think its a likely chance if you are writing a specific career choice, which the school can not help you meet. Its a good strategy to figure out what the school can get you- in the case of ISB, its easy to meet the admissions teams during their tours and talk to them.
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Any update about the results for R2 interviews?

How did the interviews go for the short listed candidates? Can someone share ones experience?

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Any update about the results for R2 interviews?

How did the interviews go for the short listed candidates? Can someone share ones experience?

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Last year R2 results were announced two days in advance, and this year R1 results were released on the date mentioned by ISB. So, I believe we are in that window when we can start expecting / hoping.

Interview: 28th Feb, Mohali Campus

Interview was scheduled at 10:20. Reached the venue at 8:30 am. There were only another candidate who was scheduled for a 9:40 interview.

At 9, we were given our one word essay. Mine was "significant". Wrote something instinctively. The first person was called at around 10:25. Could heard the admissions co-ordinater that work load for 2 days was being pushed squeezed in a day. (there were around 20 candidates and only one panel). The interviewers seemed a bit miffed with the scheduling. So, I expected a short interview. The first one got over in 10-15 minutes. The first person coming out mentioned that they were asking generic questions. I had to wait another 15-20 minutes before I was called. Two professors (later found out that both were assistant / deputy deans), middle aged and it was a conference room (with a whole view of whats happening outside). I greeted both of them and was asked to sit down.

P1: We have gone through your profile? You can give your introduction in two minutes? Mentioned family background, academic background, professional background

P2: What is this fellowship you were awarded? Talked in brief

P1: You have this offer to join US based startup, why not join it? Told that I lack operational skills - and do not find myself competent of setting up a business in a foreign country. Probably, after a PGP , I might consider.

P2: Why not Public Policy? Told them that I have an offer from LSE & columbia for their two year MPAs. But at that time I wanted to research on Gross Happiness Index for India, UK is already measuring it. However, I felt that it is too far fledged idea for India as we have other priorities, Got exposure in corporate side and I feel the real development can only happen by creating jobs.

P1: Where do you see yourself ten years from now? I mentioned heading a vertical in a company. Then linked to roles in my present industry and what I want to do.

P1: You have an impressive profile, have political background, why not join Politics. You understand macro scenario well? Why not join AAP? I said I would have contested elections but AAP did not contest Haryana elections after their Lok Sabha debacle. (P1 nodded in agreement and mentioned certain reasons) But a lot of cross questioning followed.

P1: Is the transition to corporate side because you were disillusioned and felt lost in the value chain? I mentioned my contributions and highlighted that these were no small things. Everyday I was influencing policy and legislation. Gave specific examples.

P2: How was your experience working with an MP? Did you enjoy it? I started with how their is misconceived notion that MPs do not work, and people only judge them by what they see in Lok Sabha. There is a lot of work - committee work and other issues. I counted all the committees - home, defense, civil aviation, children, food security, etc,- that he was a member of and how hard we all worked towards everything. (P1 mentioned that he knows a few leaders, and they do work 14-16 hours everyday).

P2: What is short-term goal? Mentioned what I had written in my essays. Want to get into an operational role in the energy sector itself. Talked about coal auctions, power sector scenario. Gave a good sense of both these sectors

P2: What is the difference between this govt. and the previous govt. Mention three. 1) How the corruption index seemed to have gone down. Or at least the perceived corruption level has gone down(P1 agreed and said at least at the top leve) 2) Talked about the previous govt.'s obsession with right-welfare based approach (RTE, NREGA, Food security), whereas this Govt. identifies areas and targets them in a mission mode (Make in India, etc) 3) Bureaucracy (P2 pre-empts - it does not work?) is empowered. PM directly deals with them and wants them to directly reach out to him. (P1 agreed again).

P2: Keeping aside your previous experiences, how would you rate this Government? I mentioned I am biased. P2 smiled and said try to be neutral. I said, that I have been observing the Governments working and there are two parameters: Social and Economic. On the social front, the Government is not doing pretty well and there are cuts in the budgets of various social sector schemes and on the economic front- the Govt is trying, but its hands are tied. Banking system is full of NPAs, so they are not able to lend generously. Moreover, the industry is full of debt, and most of the companies are trying to get rid of debt. So there is not much investment happening. It is a vicious cycle and something major needs to be done (no counter question)

P2: Tell me again, what do you want to do? Was very specific again. re-iterated again. Explained the scope and opportunities in power sector and coal sector again from a different perspective. Explained the skills I lacked.

P2: Will you take a sabbatical? I said yes.

P1: Ok. Great. This is it. Any questions? Asked about the cases at ISB being more US focussed. Both of them explained in detail the reasons.

Both stood up, shook my hands and wished me good.

It went on for 35-40minutes. Came out and left immediately. I was largely satisfied. No direct questioning on why ISB, why MBA, etc. Nothing from current work experience directly. But at every given opportunity I tried to bring the interview to my future goals. I missed mentioning a lot of achievements, credentials but they were more focussed if I have clarity in my mind. Fingers crossed.

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Hi Sparta_750,

Any update about the results for R2 interviews?

How did the interviews go for the short listed candidates? Can someone share ones experience?

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Last year R2 results were announced two days in advance, and this year R1 results were released on the date mentioned by ISB. So, I believe we are in that window when we can start expecting / hoping.

Interview: 28th Feb, Mohali Campus

Interview was scheduled at 10:20. Reached the venue at 8:30 am. There were only another candidate who was scheduled for a 9:40 interview.

At 9, we were given our one word essay. Mine was "significant". Wrote something instinctively. The first person was called at around 10:25. Could heard the admissions co-ordinater that work load for 2 days was being pushed squeezed in a day. (there were around 20 candidates and only one panel). The interviewers seemed a bit miffed with the scheduling. So, I expected a short interview. The first one got over in 10-15 minutes. The first person coming out mentioned that they were asking generic questions. I had to wait another 15-20 minutes before I was called. Two professors (later found out that both were assistant / deputy deans), middle aged and it was a conference room (with a whole view of whats happening outside). I greeted both of them and was asked to sit down.

P1: We have gone through your profile? You can give your introduction in two minutes? Mentioned family background, academic background, professional background

P2: What is this fellowship you were awarded? Talked in brief

P1: You have this offer to join US based startup, why not join it? Told that I lack operational skills - and do not find myself competent of setting up a business in a foreign country. Probably, after a PGP , I might consider.

P2: Why not Public Policy? Told them that I have an offer from LSE & columbia for their two year MPAs. But at that time I wanted to research on Gross Happiness Index for India, UK is already measuring it. However, I felt that it is too far fledged idea for India as we have other priorities, Got exposure in corporate side and I feel the real development can only happen by creating jobs.

P1: Where do you see yourself ten years from now? I mentioned heading a vertical in a company. Then linked to roles in my present industry and what I want to do.

P1: You have an impressive profile, have political background, why not join Politics. You understand macro scenario well? Why not join AAP? I said I would have contested elections but AAP did not contest Haryana elections after their Lok Sabha debacle. (P1 nodded in agreement and mentioned certain reasons) But a lot of cross questioning followed.

P1: Is the transition to corporate side because you were disillusioned and felt lost in the value chain? I mentioned my contributions and highlighted that these were no small things. Everyday I was influencing policy and legislation. Gave specific examples.

P2: How was your experience working with an MP? Did you enjoy it? I started with how their is misconceived notion that MPs do not work, and people only judge them by what they see in Lok Sabha. There is a lot of work - committee work and other issues. I counted all the committees - home, defense, civil aviation, children, food security, etc,- that he was a member of and how hard we all worked towards everything. (P1 mentioned that he knows a few leaders, and they do work 14-16 hours everyday).

P2: What is short-term goal? Mentioned what I had written in my essays. Want to get into an operational role in the energy sector itself. Talked about coal auctions, power sector scenario. Gave a good sense of both these sectors

P2: What is the difference between this govt. and the previous govt. Mention three. 1) How the corruption index seemed to have gone down. Or at least the perceived corruption level has gone down(P1 agreed and said at least at the top leve) 2) Talked about the previous govt.'s obsession with right-welfare based approach (RTE, NREGA, Food security), whereas this Govt. identifies areas and targets them in a mission mode (Make in India, etc) 3) Bureaucracy (P2 pre-empts - it does not work?) is empowered. PM directly deals with them and wants them to directly reach out to him. (P1 agreed again).

P2: Keeping aside your previous experiences, how would you rate this Government? I mentioned I am biased. P2 smiled and said try to be neutral. I said, that I have been observing the Governments working and there are two parameters: Social and Economic. On the social front, the Government is not doing pretty well and there are cuts in the budgets of various social sector schemes and on the economic front- the Govt is trying, but its hands are tied. Banking system is full of NPAs, so they are not able to lend generously. Moreover, the industry is full of debt, and most of the companies are trying to get rid of debt. So there is not much investment happening. It is a vicious cycle and something major needs to be done (no counter question)

P2: Tell me again, what do you want to do? Was very specific again. re-iterated again. Explained the scope and opportunities in power sector and coal sector again from a different perspective. Explained the skills I lacked.

P2: Will you take a sabbatical? I said yes.

P1: Ok. Great. This is it. Any questions? Asked about the cases at ISB being more US focussed. Both of them explained in detail the reasons.

Both stood up, shook my hands and wished me good.

It went on for 35-40minutes. Came out and left immediately. I was largely satisfied. No direct questioning on why ISB, why MBA, etc. Nothing from current work experience directly. But at every given opportunity I tried to bring the interview to my future goals. I missed mentioning a lot of achievements, credentials but they were more focussed if I have clarity in my mind. Fingers crossed.


Looks like you did pretty well in the interview. A number of nods by the interviewer indicates you were fairly comfortable in convincing them with your thought process.

I must say you would have convinced them on one aspect that you are very well informed on macro economic scenarios of the country (apart from other positive things) which is a great sign and indicates your level of preparedness for the interview.

Congrats for such a great debrief.

Wish you luck for the results!

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New post 03 Mar 2016, 02:45
Someone on another forum mentioned that the results might get uploaded tonight on the portal.
(ISB has a history of announcing result later in the day). I am unable to verify it as the ad com is not picking up the phone.

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Re: Calling all ISB Applicants - (2016 Intake) Class of 2017 [#permalink]

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New post 03 Mar 2016, 21:48
To all those waiting for R2 results..Best of luck!

In or out..you all gave your best..

Cheers!

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New post 03 Mar 2016, 21:54
When are the Results expected? Any Ideas? :roll:

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Re: Calling all ISB Applicants - (2016 Intake) Class of 2017 [#permalink]

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New post 03 Mar 2016, 22:02
Thanks kunalarora23 and MBADecoder (Namita) for your valuable insights. I have clearly understood areas of improvements and working on them. I agree that I should have applied to IIMs as well, but I felt my score was below par, which it is, to apply to IIMs. And for my goals, I am more clear and confident about them. I am also working on things that could help me be more convincing with my goals.I hope to come back strong for next year.
All the best to round 2 applicants :)

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