trivium wrote:
CentralBanker wrote:
So latest date change theory afternoon vs midnight vs early morning doesn't make the cut - too speculative.
It is speculative, but if you divide the groups into the categories I mentioned, you'll find the groups are very different. One had many who interviewed at top ranked schools (Booth, Sloan, Wharton, etc.) with no obvious reach candidates. The other lacked these clear admits but had waived applicants and many who didn't get invites from lower ranked schools (Duke, UNC, Anderson, etc.)
trivium great job with your theory my friend.. That's the best one can come up with gmatclub data.. But not all gmatclub data..
1) We do have waived applicants seeing date changes starting only in December. There is large group of applicants with
NO more than 2 updates till december and started seeing things only in first week of december - according to you they are the lucky ones! - I say
they are not all and not the only2) I think
First week december can be borderline (lets decide later) type applicants. What about people who saw nearly
5-6 date changes till third week of November when most people had no updates? And a final update in December? - Do we say they are all dings? - not fair as they ruled the roost in Oct/Nov..
3) I don't think all decisions (nearly
400+ R1 admits - going by 60% yield and 700+ size class (1Y/2Y/MMM/JD-MBA) are made on the final week. I guess based on the early interview report availability some decisions are made in November.. They can be obvious ones - admit/deny. OR those for programs such as 1Y/MMM/JD-MBA (small applicant pools)
4) December 1st week pool - waived/borderline/people who might have seen kellogg as back up (too obvious HBS/GSB types) - which is a very difficult pool to pick and choose from. I say this because this group is
UNTOUCHED for too long in the admissions process. Come on - we applied on September 24th!
5) If you see Yale which is the closest to Kellogg application system/R1 deadline/Video essays - I was told that they
kept making decisions every friday since the 1st interview week (november 1st week) to disperse the load- nearly 50% of admits post-interview are straight, remaining are picked in last couple of weeks together taking call on other candidates, looking at GMATs/yield concerns etc. Not every candidate picked is based on class averages at that point. Decisions are made as they go - large chunk of them can be made in the last to balance the class.
6) Since there are
4 programs (
1Y/2Y/MMM/JD-MBA)
with 'different' (internal) admission committees - some can have easier workload due to smaller applicant pools (and are faster) for e.g. 1Y, JD-MBA, MMM compared to 2Y pool. I know this fact for sure as I personally interacted with an admit committee member who only looks after her program among the 4. 1Y applicants are typically 400+ (both rounds together) and JD-MBA are 300+ etc. We talk of class averages! Kellogg doesn't even 'report' GMAT averages for 1Y/JD-MBA in their class profiles (fair enough as the fight for ranking is only with 2Y students of other schools). The yardsticks for 1Y and JD-MBA are more professional than academic/test scores and there is a lot of self selection.