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Calling all Kellogg Applicants (2015 Intake) Class of 2017 !

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So this year they probably gave an early sign to those whom they wanted to ding by waiving their interviews. With a week left, I can only see a miracle getting anyone in the waived list accepted.


It's looks like this indeed was the case this year. It's obviously up to Kellogg and the admissions team how they want to tackle applications, but doing it this way does make the promise that the "waiver will in no way negatively impact your candidacy" seem pretty hollow and misleading.


Still at 11/18.

I don't know if just because people that still haven't received an interview after the waiver necessarily have the waiver to blame. I'm sure they took some people, maybe just not people on this forum. In the nicest way, it's probably more that even if you did interview your profile wasn't compelling enough on it's own to be accepted. And not that because they didn't interview you, you didn't get accepted. If they liked your materials they would have found a way to get in touch with you and interview with you.
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For waived applicants;

I spoke to a Kellogg Admissions Officer at an info session, and asked what would happen if I chose an on-campus interview and slots were filled. She responded that a waiver would be produced, and that they would conduct a Skype call if they wanted additional information.

Keep in mind that the video essay is in full force this year. Perhaps they are making decisions based off of it for those not interviewed. I highly doubt that an applicant who would have had a chance of acceptance with an interview, however minute may it have been, would be brushed aside because her application was submitted later than someone else, or because an alumni was not in the same geographical region.
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I am pretty sure waivers are not linked to a ding. Most interviews happened quite early, so there is little chance that they would have shortlisted candidates by then. Also, if they had, why keep people waiting? And, why are waived applicants' also reporting date changes?

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I hate to continue the speculation, but hey, gotta pass the time somehow, right? :-D
I agree with this for the most part, it clearly has something to do with groups instead of individuals - based on what I've gathered here:

a) Once the date changes to December for the first time, it updates every day after that, so for me it's changed 12/7 through 12/11.
b) After the initial date change, it updates every morning. If it was based on individuals, the date should change at various times through the day

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So just to stir the pot, has anyone had a December date change that has not updated through 12/11 at this point?


If that happened, I will be shocked. My theory will be disproven!!! Anyone with a date change since 12/7 should have one every morning. You have been pooled!


I'm kind of skimming through some of these theories, but to add another data point- mine changed to 12/8 and then to 12/11...no change on 12/9 or 12/10.

I didn't really keep track during November- so I dont know when it changed prior to 12/8.
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I solved it. If your date change by greater that 7 days squared minus 2, then you will be admitted. If the date change was longer than a month, you have been dinged and no change means waitlist.




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I solved it. If your date change by greater that 7 days squared minus 2, then you will be admitted. If the date change was longer than a month, you have been dinged and no change means waitlist.




#stopthemadness


I think you have made this formula to make yourself feel better 8-)
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More Data:

Interviewed late-October. I believe video essay has shown 11/04, 12/05, 12/06, 12/08, 12/09, 12/10, 12/11

The change to 12/11 occurred this morning at some point between 8am-10am CT
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#stopthemadness


Kellogg applicants prior to app submission: Rational, intelligent, & patient. Brimming with leadership potential.

Kellogg applicants after app submission: Jumpy, wildly speculative nervous wrecks. Part time conspiracy theorists.
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Are you guys serious with this?
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Are you guys serious with this?


The problem is that with no cutoff for interview invites and no rolling admissions, we have no data to use in evaluating our chances. Thus we must revert to inventing data and speculating :)
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If you ask for five words that form part of traditional business jargon that people hate, the word “synergy” would likely be right up there. Given its horrible reputation, I was curious to learn more. We discussed the idea at length at our intro strategy class. Here are a few notes:

1. The economic view on synergy is: (how big are the gains) x (how achievable are they) – (costs involved). So, in essence, synergy is just a calculation that multiplies potential gains by the probability of achieving them and subtracts the costs involved.

2. The core idea is that two organizations can combine to create more value as a group than they did individually. Value can be created by either increasing benefit to customers or reducing cost. But this is where things get a bit nuanced and tricky.

3. Combining two organizations just because they have something in common does absolutely nothing. Good strategy is when the acquisition enables the acquirer to fundamentally change something about how they do what they do. This works well when they have strengths that complement each other. A great example of this is Disney acquiring Pixar. Pixar gave Disney strength in computer generated cartoons and a creative engine that churned out a great movie every two years. Disney, on the other hand, could use all of Pixar’s characters in its theme parks and merchandise. In order to avoid too many organizational costs like a clash of cultures, Disney allowed Pixar to operate separately, and this acquisition has worked incredibly well for them.

4. It does gets tricky at this point, however, because acquisitions we read about in the press largely talk about potential gains and completely neglect the potential costs. That’s the part of the synergy equation that is normally forgotten or omitted. Researchers have dug into this question over many years: Why are acquisitions regularly over valued when they fail so often? There have been many explanations with CEO hubris and poor decision making processes being suggested as possible explanations. But, the fact remains that the costs of a potential acquisition are generally glossed over. And every time you see an acquisition announced, it is definitely worth looking for whether the acquirer discusses potential costs and challenges. It is quite amazing how regularly this isn’t discussed given the base rate of failure.

5. Warren Buffet once said, “Synergy is a term widely used in business to explain an acquisition that otherwise makes no sense.” And he’s absolutely right. Synergy has been used to describe business decisions that can best be described as illogical or fuzzy. The take-home message is definitely continue to be wary when you hear “synergy” because very few actually understand it and use it consistently with its economic definition.

6. Finally, a quick personal application. Every gain we foresee comes at a cost. It is regularly tempting to only think about and discuss the gain. When we do that, it pays to remember that we’re guilty of the exact mistake that costs many companies billions of dollars and many smart executives their job. Make sure we look at both sides of the decisions made. As economists like to say, there is no “free” lunch.

So, yes, we are back full circle to where we started in terms of our suspicion of the word. But hopefully, the journey has been useful.

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I'm just trying to pass time and speculate. The conversations have been interesting.
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Date just changed from 11/25 to 12/11. Assuming that was a finalization of my status!

Not going to lie, after following all of this speculation my heart did a couple of back flips when I saw it changed even though it's meaningless... lol
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Date just changed from 11/25 to 12/11. Assuming that was a finalization of my status!

Not going to lie, after following all of this speculation my heart did a couple of back flips when I saw it changed even though it's meaningless... lol



My date has changed for a 3rd time this week. Now it says 12/11/. Goes up once each day.
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Date just changed from 11/25 to 12/11. Assuming that was a finalization of my status!

Not going to lie, after following all of this speculation my heart did a couple of back flips when I saw it changed even though it's meaningless... lol



My date has changed for a 3rd time this week. Now it says 12/11/. Goes up once each day.


No change since 11/11. Even though its all speculation but I would still like to see a date change for the fun of it :)
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Date just changed from 11/25 to 12/11. Assuming that was a finalization of my status!

Not going to lie, after following all of this speculation my heart did a couple of back flips when I saw it changed even though it's meaningless... lol



My date has changed for a 3rd time this week. Now it says 12/11/. Goes up once each day.


No change since 11/11. Even though its all speculation but I would still like to see a date change for the fun of it :)


hahaha. I wonder what the mystery really is.

Do you what day next week should we expect to hear from the school?
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Date just changed from 11/25 to 12/11. Assuming that was a finalization of my status!

Not going to lie, after following all of this speculation my heart did a couple of back flips when I saw it changed even though it's meaningless... lol



My date has changed for a 3rd time this week. Now it says 12/11/. Goes up once each day.


No change since 11/11. Even though its all speculation but I would still like to see a date change for the fun of it :)


Same here! no change since 10/28 and now an update to 12/11. I don't know if we'll be able to figure out what the date changes mean even after results come out. More fodder for round 2 applicants to mull over.
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Decisions come out on Wednesday. They call those that have been accepted.
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Decisions come out on Wednesday. They call those that have been accepted.


Do you think we'll be able to see the decision online first thing in the morning that day??
I'd suppose right? If the date changes are actually status updates we can't see just yet...

Don't know if I'd be willing to just wait all day to see if the call comes or not... :?
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Here is another theory :)

This theory would mean those with the dates changes recently are accepted. As they are adding people to the pool, they must be looking at the averages. i.e what is the GMAT average, what is the % by industry, what is the % female etc. As they add people, the averages need to refresh, this would explain all the date changes because it's pulling info from the system on each application.
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