https://rankings.r.ftdata.co.uk/lib/img/logos/entity/university-of-pennsylvania-wharton Business School Guide: https://gmatclub.com/forum/penn-wharton-103701.html This thread is for the Wharton 2011 Application Year, meaning applicants that are starting School in the Fall of 2011. Please direct all of your questions for this year into the 2012 thread calling-wharton-fall-2012-applicants-113014.html Current Students and Admits, please continue your discussions here: admitted-to-wharton-class-of-2013-thread-107439.html Please use the following form to add your stats to the spreadsheet Form link Edit link: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ArkyKRSo74XNdHJDT0RoNUFqYWhyQ0c2aVV3TDV2WHc&hl=en&authkey=CPS16ccG Spreadsheet 0ArkyKRSo74XNdHJDT0RoNUFqYWhyQ0c2aVV3TDV2WHc Add your name to the list https://www.wharton.upenn.edu/evolvelearning/assets/huntsman_at_night.jpg MBA Program Application Deadline Decision Release Date Round 1 October 4, 2010 December 17, 2010 Round 2 January 4, 2011 March 24, 2011 Round 3 March 3, 2011 May 12, 2011 The Admissions Committee will release interview invitations on Friday, October 29th and again on Friday, November 5th . Due to the nature and complexity associated with the admissions process there is no particular order in which invitations are released. Also on November 5th , the Committee will release all final admissions decisions to candidates that are not being invited for an interview and therefore no longer being considered for admission . If you are invited for an interview, you will need to complete your interview by Friday, December 3rd . Interviews will be available on campus with second-year Wharton MBA Students who are full members of the Admissions Committee, off campus with alumni, and off campus in various "Hubs" around the world by Admissions staff members. All interview options are equally considered within the admissions process. Essays Required Question (same for first-time and reapplicants): What are your professional objectives? (300 words) Respond to 3 of the following 4 questions: Student and alumni engagement has at times led to the creation of innovative classes. For example, through extraordinary efforts, a small group of current students partnered with faculty to create a timely course entitled, “Disaster Response: Haiti and Beyond,” empowering students to leverage the talented Wharton community to improve the lives of the Haiti earthquake victims. Similarly, Wharton students and alumni helped to create the “Innovation and the Indian Healthcare Industry” which took students to India where they studied the full range of healthcare issues in India. If you were able to create a Wharton course on any topic, what would it be? (700 words) Reflect on a time when you turned down an opportunity. What was the thought process behind your decision? Would you make the same decision today? (600 words) Describe a failure that you have experienced. What role did you play, and what did you learn about yourself? How did this experience help to create your definition of failure? (600 words) Discuss a time when you navigated a challenging experience in either a personal or professional relationship. (600 words) Stats, rankings and other relevant links FT: https://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/university-of-pennsylvania-wharton BW: https://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/full_time_mba_profiles/wharton.html Career report: https://www.wharton.upenn.edu/mba/your-career/career-trends.cfm Great resource to get questions answered by current students: https://engage.wharton.upenn.edu/MBA/forums/ Quick facts: https://www.wharton.upenn.edu/mba/admissions/quick-facts-and-dates.cfm Wharton vs. Booth: https://gmatclub.com/forum/chicago-vs-wharton-74034.html Previous Threads Class of 2010 Thread - calling-all-wharton-fall-2010-candidates-78775.html Class of 2009 Thread - calling-all-wharton-fall-09-applicants-66548.html Class of 2008 Thread - calling-all-wharton-2008-applicants-50294.html

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12 May 2011, 08:46

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Nope, no assumptions. You're in at HBS. You're going to HBS. Nothing Wharton can do will get you to go there. Therefore, you shouldn't (potentially) take away a slot from someone else and make them wait for the summer so you can have your "outcome". Has absolutely nothing to do with you choosing HBS over Wharton...just that you're not letting Wharton know that you have no intention of going there even if they admit you off of the waitlist. I, for one, hope your ego takes a nice blow later today.

you sound kinda bitter. you've been accepted to wharton already why are you so upset?

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you sound kinda bitter. you've been accepted to wharton already why are you so upset?

I would have thought that would be clear at this point. Basically, I care about other people and how my actions impact them. It annoys me when others do not.

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It's not even that you guys are staying on the WL that is troubling or surprising. It's the fact that you are posting it here and throwing it in our faces. At least lie and say that if Wharton gave you $$$ you would consider it. I'll admit I'm bitter. I submitted my application 8 months ago and haven't been able to move on with my life. It's not entirely because of people like that, but it certainly doesn't help. This is why Wharton waitlists so many people. They have to manage yield because people can't be forthright and honest. The $250 argument is BS. I'd give you the $250 to have closure.

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I don't think that this fighting gonna make any good news for all of us that still waiting because this is a final day of r3, blame anyone not gonna change anything.

I'm, too, r2 WL and still waiting for this for a long long time. I got nowhere to go right now.

two things I would like to say is
1. It's their right to keep their seats no matter they are already in somewhere or not
2. Just thinking about yourself in the opposite position, what would you do if you were them

Fighting in this web board is not solving anything

Good luck for you all

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you sound kinda bitter. you've been accepted to wharton already why are you so upset?

I would have thought that would be clear at this point. Basically, I care about other people and how my actions impact them. It annoys me when others do not.

but staying on the wl when you are likely to go to another school is nothing new. the other poster carlcove admitted just as much but perhaps was not as direct about it. i have heard of people in class at hbs when they get final word from Wharton. yeah, in theory it may increase waitlisted candidates chances but not by much. wharton does not rank their wl candidates.

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I'm just as critical of him as I am of you. I do not except "but other people do it" as a valid argument. And it's not theory. If you get in off the waitlist, it will be instead of someone else on the waitlist. That is the person you are hurting (even if they ultimately get off it after the summer...it's important for people to be able to plan their lives).

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I'm all for diplomacy, but why show all disregard for everyone on the WL by posting it here? At least keep it to yourself.

And to answer the question, if I got in to my first choice, I would 100% remove myself from the WL at another school. It's not like the odds of being WLed and getting $ is very high.

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LOL Calm down. Im not the original poster. I am just a passerby. I obviously have too much time on my hands at work.

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LOL Calm down. Im not the original poster. I am just a passerby. I obviously have too much time on my hands at work.

Don't care who was the original poster. You found the need to defend them and I'm explaining why you're absolutely wrong. I think the general sentiment on this thread (based on other posts and people giving me kudos) is that you're wrong.

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12 May 2011, 09:03

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Actually, even though I wrote the way I did, I stayed on the WL while I sorted out employment verification and financial aid. I am yet to see my financial aid from HBS but I recently got my kroll completed so I will promptly decline if I get accepted today. It was a hedge. Yes, I had nothing to worry about my employment but still can't be 100% with these things. why overconfidently withdraw from an equally good school and then end up with nothing.

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Little bit of a change in argument mid-stream there. My question then would be: why did you think that you could possibly fail the employment verification at HBS but pass it at Wharton?

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All irrelevant. I don't care that you did it. Just don't post it. That's how you make people angry (see above) and feed the reputation of HBS students.

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I guess that is a bit more of a palatable justification.

In general, if you are ever in a position to help other people with absolutely no material cost to yourself--you should do so. I wholeheartedly agree with JMW's viewpoints. Staying on the WL to cater to egos speaks volumes about the greater problems in our society-hopefully these b-schools will change this type of thinking in their admits and make ethical leaders.

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Has anyone heard of any reports of admit calls so far today?

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Nothing like a good ol' internet flame war to get me through the day... Nice.

My opinion, for the record: If you've already decided where you go to school, it's common courtesy to adcom and the other applicants to withdrawal. What do you gain from knowing that you got admitted off waitlist if you don't plan on going to school there? The argument "I invested time and money and I deserve a decision" is pretty lame considering the stakes for other parties participating in the same process. Think about it this way: If this issue came up in a job interview, how do you think this would impact the interviewer's opinion of your character? Would you be able to defend your decision?

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Has anyone heard of any reports of admit calls so far today?

Nothing yet. Join the chat. No reports from the anyone there. https://gmatclub.com/chat/?fl=menu

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Type A narcissism at is finest.

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OK I think people are taking things overboard; people are comparing this to problems in our society? the only thing the original poster did wrong was admit that they were waiting to hear the decision from Wharton when they had an offer they were going to accept. that person owes Wharton or other candidates nothing. the only reason you are getting to hear about this is because of the message board. you want to talk about ethics? what about people that apply to schools in R1, accept the offer but still apply to other schools in R2. Let's talk about Wharton's decision to WL more people than they can possibly extend offers to. Or WL people through the summer. There is nothing fair about the business school application process.

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OK I think people are taking things overboard; people are comparing this to problems in our society. the only thing the original poster did wrong was admit that they were waiting to hear the decision from Wharton when they had an offer they were going to accept. that person owes Wharton or other candidates nothing. the only reason you are getting to hear about this is because of the message board. you want to talk about ethics? what about people that apply to schools in R1, accept the offer but still apply to other schools in R2. Let's talk about Wharton's decision to WL more people than they can possibly extend offers to. Or WL people through the summer. There is nothing fair about the business school application process.

I again reject the argument that "well, what I did might have been wrong but there are other people doing way worse things."

That's the school's prerogative (and the point of a wait list).

I would completely disagree and say that they make it as fair as they can...there might be some mistakes made (a la the interview question debacle of this year at Wharton), but they at least try.

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Is putting people on the waitlist so you can manipulate yield fair? that was my argument even though it was not clear. if it's the school's prerogative then it's the candidate's prerogative to stay on the list.