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# Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes

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Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill, but only recently has it been established that the illness is caused by a toxin present in the quail’s body only under certain conditions.

(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes

(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make

(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make

(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make

(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made

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01 Jul 2008, 13:54
The underlined "It" implies we need a clear subject for its reference. Logically whole of the previous phrase is acting as a subject for this "It". Thereby making "Europeans" as subject is not correct. So A and B is incorrect.

C and E are awkward constructions because of "known to Europeans to sometimes make" in C. In E it implies that "quail has sometimes made eater ill" instead of "eating of quail has sometimes made eater ill".

IMO D is the Best Choice.
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01 Jul 2008, 15:53

(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes

(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make [able to make – wordy makes concise]

(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make [split infinitives – eliminate it]

(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make [Agreement issue – eliminate it]

(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made [awkward]
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01 Jul 2008, 20:21
abhijit_sen wrote:
The underlined "It" implies we need a clear subject for its reference. Logically whole of the previous phrase is acting as a subject for this "It". Thereby making "Europeans" as subject is not correct. So A and B is incorrect.

C and E are awkward constructions because of "known to Europeans to sometimes make" in C. In E it implies that "quail has sometimes made eater ill" instead of "eating of quail has sometimes made eater ill".

IMO D is the Best Choice.

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Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill, but only recently has it been established that the illness is caused by a toxin present in the quail’s body only under certain conditions

We have 2 independent sentences joined by a conjunction but.

Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill

The bolded part after that is again an independent clause.
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03 Jul 2008, 11:11
It should be A, as it is in active voice, uses the right tense and is concise.
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Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill, but only recently has it been established that the illness is caused by a toxin present in the quail’s body only under certain conditions.
(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes
(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make
(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make
(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make
(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made
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22 Jul 2008, 11:41
A.

B) "quail eating" is incorrect and funny.
C) Too many "to"'s in the sentence.
D) Again "quail eating"
E) wordy and awkward.
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Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill, but only recently has it been established that the illness is caused by a toxin present in the quail’s body only under certain conditions.
(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes
(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make
(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make
(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make
(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made

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22 Jul 2008, 11:54
jallenmorris wrote:
A.

B) "quail eating" is incorrect and funny.
C) Too many "to"'s in the sentence.
D) Again "quail eating"
E) wordy and awkward.
spriya wrote:
Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill, but only recently has it been established that the illness is caused by a toxin present in the quail’s body only under certain conditions.
(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes
(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make
(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make
(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make
(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made

except quail eating does there exist any other mistake in (D)?
since if we consider post comma sentence after BUT it says :only recently has it been established ....

hence shouldn't the starting phrase be in parallel with the above statment.This is met in D and not in A.
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22 Jul 2008, 12:47
The usage of "It" in D & E is incorrect - pronoun error
C - too many "to"
B - "quail eating is sometimes able to make" - incorrect & funny
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22 Jul 2008, 19:13
pawan203 wrote:
The usage of "It" in D & E is incorrect - pronoun error
C - too many "to"
B - "quail eating is sometimes able to make" - incorrect & funny

OA is A
Thanks for explanations
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11 Sep 2010, 21:27
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C,D,E are out. Wrong usage of known To (idiom).
In a sentence, known to should follow verb.

E, using "when" is wrong. when is used for referring time.
B is wrong because it changes the meaning of the original sentence.. its not the quail eating that makes the eater ill. and moreover, "sometimes able to make" is wordy

A is correct because, Singular verb, squail eating uses singular verb, makes and is precise
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Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill, but only recently has it been established that the illness is caused by a toxin present in the quail’s body only under certain conditions.

(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes
(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make
(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make
(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make
(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made

B-- we need a that..Europeans have long known that.. and eating quail is the right usage
C- to sometimes make is wrong
D- passive form and again eating quail is the right usage
E-- has sometimes made is wrong
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12 Sep 2010, 12:48
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vishy007 wrote:
Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill, but only recently has it been established that the illness is caused by a toxin present in the quail’s body only under certain conditions.

(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes
(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make
(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make
(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make
(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made

B-- we need a that..Europeans have long known that.. and eating quail is the right usage
C- to sometimes make is wrong
D- passive form and again eating quail is the right usage
E-- has sometimes made is wrong

Nice explianation. I was able to eliminate B and D for quail eating
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13 Sep 2010, 08:00
thought of D but nice explanation thanks
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spriya wrote:
jallenmorris wrote:
A.

B) "quail eating" is incorrect and funny.
C) Too many "to"'s in the sentence.
D) Again "quail eating"
E) wordy and awkward.
spriya wrote:
Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes the eater ill, but only recently has it been established that the illness is caused by a toxin present in the quail’s body only under certain conditions.
(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes
(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make
(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make
(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make
(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made

except quail eating does there exist any other mistake in (D)?
since if we consider post comma sentence after BUT it says :only recently has it been established ....

hence shouldn't the starting phrase be in parallel with the above statment.This is met in D and not in A.

(A) Europeans have long known that eating quail sometimes makes
Correct.

(B) Europeans have long known quail eating is sometimes able to make
Wrong.
(1) "quail eating" is really funny, since it means that a quail is eating something, and it is not regarded as a kind of food.
(2) "is sometimes able to make" equals "sometimes make", and therefore is redundant.

(C) Eating quail has long been known to Europeans to sometimes make
Wrong.
(1) There is no need to use passive voice here, and the usage of "to" looks strange.
(2) "make" is wrong because "Eating quail" is singular.

(D) It has long been known to Europeans that quail eating will sometimes make
Wrong.
(1) "quail eating" is really funny, since it means that a quail is eating something, and it is not regarded as a kind of food.
(2) "will sometimes make" is redundant, because "sometimes make" has already stated "possibility". There is no need to use "will" to stress "possibility" again.
(3) Parallel. It is incorrect to use simple future tense here, because from the clause "that the illness is caused by a toxin..." we see that simple present tense is needed.

(E) It has long been known to Europeans that quail, when it is eaten, has sometimes made
Wrong.
(1) The structure "quail, when it is eaten" is false. It looks like quail itself causes the disease, not eating quail.
(2) Parallel. It is incorrect to use present perfect tense here, because from the clause "that the illness is caused by a toxin..." we see that simple present tense is needed.
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