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I am an amateur astronomer since last 16 years, I also fly RC planes as my hobby.

Does that count ?
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I am an amateur astronomer since last 16 years, I also fly RC planes as my hobby.

Does that count ?

Hi hideyoshi,

Both of these make interesting "talking points" in your profile and help to show your diversity. However, hobbies make better extracurricular activities from the AdCom's perspective when they are an additional source of demonstrating some of the soft skills and attributes that the program is looking for. For example, keeping at a hobby for 16 years shows perseverance. Can you demonstrate any measurable impact from this hobby - writing a paper, obtaining a certification, leading a team of fellow enthusiasts, teaching it to juniors? Similarly, for flying RC planes, can you think of examples of participating and winning a competition, or obtaining any advanced levels of expertise?

Any activity that helps to set you apart is useful. However, to best leverage it, it has to be appropriately positioned. This is where we help. During our consulting sessions, we actively pursue additional information and encourage clients to come up with supplemental details on their activities. With the full picture in hand, we help the client to understand the best place in the application to include it, and the aspects to focus on to be appropriate for the program at hand.

If you have follow-up questions, go ahead and post them in the Ask My MBA Admit thread in this forum.

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Other than being a volunteer, what else can be counted as extracurricular.

Does running a part time business in the same field count as one ? Does running a fitness website or being a Certified Personal Trainer count as one ?

There are extracurricular activities and then there are extracurricular activities that demonstrate leadership. You want to focus your message on the activities that demonstrate your leadership style but outside of your normal, 9-to-5, office capacity.

Given the basic info you provided, running an outside business would count as one, given that it is a business with some merit (i.e. demonstrates leadership, has duration, perhaps some revenue or FTE.)

Running a fitness website would be a secondary activity, unless the website has several thousand users, etc. Being a certified personal trainer could roll up into this example but if it not leadership oriented, I would leave it as a brief line item on the application or perhaps resume.

My personal opinion is that outside the office leadership activities that combine personal passions and professional acumen are the best. So if you volunteer for Habit for Humanity, not simply on one-off house repairs, but rather as an IT project manager for a data center (and you are an IT project manager) at work, these make the best examples.

Remember, the point of the essays (in part) is to tell the adcom how it is you lead and why you lead the way you do. To show them that you are not invented or a johnny come lately, you need to show a long line of leadership in and out of the regular workplace or your academic studies. Otherwise, you run the risk of looking invented for the purposes of applying to business school.

In short, extracurriculars are a good way to demonstrate another dimension, but a relevant dimension.

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Extracurricular activities in MBA applications have two basic purposes - one, to show personal attributes and soft skills such as leadership, initiative and communication with (hopefully) measurable results outside the routine activities of work and school. Two, to demonstrate diversity and show that extra spark in your applications. For example, an accountant who is a professional juggler - as one of our recent clients was!

In his case, obtaining certifications over 5 years and leading teaching sessions for junior jugglers showed personal attributes. But, juggling itself showed diversity from his finance-concentrated experience. This added color to his resume and essays and gave an admissions reader an additional point to remember about his application.

Whether you run a part-time business, are a Certified Personal Trainer or fly RC planes, do not shy away from activities that are different from your professional expertise. In fact, embrace them. Chances are, you can show quantifiable results at work and school already. If you show these in your extracurricular activities, you confirm that you haven't jumped into them just for the sake of the application but have actually achieved something in them. Plus, by doing something completely different from your professional expertise, you add noteworthy diversity and the all-important Wow factor.

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Hi HopefulOldie. Thank you for starting a great post.

Extracurricular activities can demonstrate great commitment to your own professional development and/or to improving the overall community around you... If you are looking for a great extracurricular activity that will demonstrate your commitment to both of these areas then consider our professional group, USA Leadership Corps (www usaLeadershipCorps org) .

USALC partners with pre-MBAs who are looking to build their consulting, entrepreneurship, and/or community-involvement resumes by leading part-time volunteer nonprofit strategy consulting projects. Please visit our website to learn more.

Thank you & good luck.

Maxwell Roper
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