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From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.

(A) baggage so light
(B) baggage being so light
(C) baggage, yet being so light
(D) baggage, and so light
(E) baggage yet was so light

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Let's take a look at some of the other issues in this question:

"being" --> This word is almost always wrong. There's really no reason to ever use it unless you're referring to an "alien being" or a "human being." The reason is that it simply does not add any value to the sentence. The following two sentences mean the same thing:

"Because I was being so cold, I put on a jacket."
"Because I was cold, I put on a jacket."

This is a simple example, but notice how the question above plays with this exact same concept.

"yet" --> When we use the conjunction "yet" or "but" we're indicating a contrast:

"I love cheese, but I hate cream cheese." --> There's a contrast here, so I'd use "but" or "yet."
"I love pizza, and I love lasagna." --> No contrast here, so we use "and."

Notice how the answer choices here play with your ability to decide whether you need to use "yet" or "and."

Just wanted to take this question a bit further. It's always good to dissect an OG problem in as many ways as you possibly can.
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for a canoe four hundred pounds and eighty pound is not light rather it is heavy so the intention of the sentence is contrast.
therefore we use -YET
though - so ....adj /adv...that - is correct idom it does not go with the sentence

and also the sentence described about the past for this -was- is perfect
thatswhy ans is E
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Think this Q tests on modifiers

its clearly between C & E

baggage, yet being so light here baggage is modified it means baggage is so light

E uses it properly
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Please can anyone help? I chose C.
Cedar, which could carry baggage yet being so light that a person could portage it.

320. From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.
(A) baggage so light
(B) baggage being so light
(C) baggage, yet being so light
(D) baggage, and so light
(E) baggage yet was so light

E is a right one.


Please Don't post the OA right away.

Examine the Main sub and verb.


Menomini crafted a canoe <about...blah blah blah>, which could carry... yet was so light

Canoe could carry .. Yet <canoe> was so light.

So light should modify "Canoe" not "baggage"
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.... Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide [,with small ribs and rails of cedar, {which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage}] yet was so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.

here first bolded area tells about how big was a canoe, the second part contrasts that with such huge dimensions it was yet was so light
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Reduce the sentence to
'The Menomini crafted a canoe which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage..'

A & B refer to the weight of the baggage and not that of the canoe.
We can easily eliminate A & B.

Of the remaining, E is the best formed answer.
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I thought "yet" was never a good choice. Please could someone explain the usage of 'yet"
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Hey ajit,

I'd be very, very cautious about advice like "never pick _____" for a particular word. The GMAT doesn't test "words your mother would never let you use" (like curse words or "ain't"), so every word on the GMAT should have at least one proper use. "Being" is one such word that has developed that red-flag stigma, but it has proper uses (as a noun - "human being"; as a present tense verb - "I scolded the class for being too loud"; etc.).


"Yet" is required here for proper sentence structure. We need to include a transition for:

"four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage so light that..."

That's a run-on description - and logically "eight hundred pounds of baggage" doesn't really make sense with "so light". (Not only is it heavy; we're given an exact weight so you wouldn't then re-describe it as "so light..." - we know exactly how light/heavy it is).

So we need a transition, and because it's somewhat surprising that "800 pounds of baggage" and "so light" are together we can go to the meaning of the sentence:

The canoe was quite sturdy (it could carry...) but it was also light enough that it was easy to transport.

See that "but" transition in there? We do need a "surprising" change of events signifier here, so "yet" is required.

Therefore E is correct - in this case, that other red-flag word "being" is in an improper tense as we're already using the past-tense "crafted" and "could carry / could portage", so we nee the past-tense "was" and not the present-tense "being".


I hope that helps...
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If you really break this one down, the main clause in the sentence is:

The Menomini crafted a canoe (Memomini is the subject, crafted the verb, and canoe the object)

then the canoe, the object of the dominant clause, becomes the subject of the subordinate clause:

the canoe could carry...yet was so light...

So "could carry" and "was so light" are verbs that refer back to the canoe.


The good news, at least to me, is that once we've established that we are in the past tense and that we're talking about permanent qualities of the canoe (it WAS light...it wasn't temporarily BEING light), then we need that past-tense "was". So even if you're not fully diagramming that sentence (with apologies to East Middle School's English teacher Mrs. Bain, who did a great job, I absolutely hated diagramming sentences!) I think you can still determine that you need the word "was" and not "being" just through context.
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321. From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of [u]baggage so light/u] that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.

(A) baggage so light
(B) baggage being so light
(C) baggage, yet being so light
(D) baggage, and so light
(E) baggage yet was so light

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Initially I also went for A but after reading further came to the following few notes:

- This sentence is not complete with a coordinating conjunction i.e. "yet". Yet is also required to make sentence logical: "A canoe could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage yet the canoe was so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids".
Eliminate A,B and D.

- Avoid using "being" in gmat to the possible extent. Eliminate B. Remains E.
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From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of [u]baggage so light/u] that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids

Here Canoe (small boat) is referred by which in the sentence, you can portage it .. here again it is referring the Canoe not to baggage.. So yet was so light is correct answer .. E
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Let me break the sentence and then I will ask the qusn -

From the bark of the paper birch tree - (modifies Menomini)
Clause 1 -
the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage
Clause 2 -
yet was so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.

My Qusn - Shouldnt the subject of clause 1 be subject of clause 2?

In this case - "Menomini"

Please let me know if I am wrong theoretically. I know rhetorically Canoe sounds correct.

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From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet
wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage
so light
that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.
(A) baggage so light
(B) baggage being so light
(C) baggage, yet being so light
(D) baggage, and so light
(E) baggage yet was so light


The original sentence intends to contrast two qualities of the canoe but fails to do so using 'so' .Hence (A) is wrong.

(B) and (C) - unnecessarily wordy - 'being' is not required in both cases.
(D) 'and' does not show the intended contrast. Also, ', + and' should introduce an independent clause.

Left with (E), which is the correct answer.
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Let's take a look at some of the other issues in this question:

"being" --> This word is almost always wrong. There's really no reason to ever use it unless you're referring to an "alien being" or a "human being." The reason is that it simply does not add any value to the sentence. The following two sentences mean the same thing:

"Because I was being so cold, I put on a jacket."
"Because I was cold, I put on a jacket."

This is a simple example, but notice how the question above plays with this exact same concept.

"yet" --> When we use the conjunction "yet" or "but" we're indicating a contrast:

"I love cheese, but I hate cream cheese." --> There's a contrast here, so I'd use "but" or "yet."
"I love pizza, and I love lasagna." --> No contrast here, so we use "and."

Notice how the answer choices here play with your ability to decide whether you need to use "yet" or "and."

Just wanted to take this question a bit further. It's always good to dissect an OG problem in as many ways as you possibly can.


Shouldn't yet' mentioned in option E be preceded with a comma? Without that, the construction doesn't make sense, in my opinion. Kindly explain.
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BKimball wrote:
Let's take a look at some of the other issues in this question:

"being" --> This word is almost always wrong. There's really no reason to ever use it unless you're referring to an "alien being" or a "human being." The reason is that it simply does not add any value to the sentence. The following two sentences mean the same thing:

"Because I was being so cold, I put on a jacket."
"Because I was cold, I put on a jacket."

This is a simple example, but notice how the question above plays with this exact same concept.

"yet" --> When we use the conjunction "yet" or "but" we're indicating a contrast:

"I love cheese, but I hate cream cheese." --> There's a contrast here, so I'd use "but" or "yet."
"I love pizza, and I love lasagna." --> No contrast here, so we use "and."


Notice how the answer choices here play with your ability to decide whether you need to use "yet" or "and."

Just wanted to take this question a bit further. It's always good to dissect an OG problem in as many ways as you possibly can.


Hello Brett,

May you give us some comments about the too far placement of "which", why is such too far placement permitted?

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From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.

(A) baggage so light
(B) baggage being so light
(C) baggage, yet being so light
(D) baggage, and so light
(E) baggage yet was so light




Structure (,) + conjuction only connect clause > Eliminate C,D.
A. Eliminate because we couldn't connect to main clause.
B. being > Kill
E. use "was" to make up a verb clause, connect 2 Verb by conjunction
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From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.

(A) baggage so light
(B) baggage being so light
(C) baggage, yet being so light
(D) baggage, and so light
(E) baggage yet was so light


Tough one IMO. As I am finding in many 700 level questions, and as the GOAT GMATNinja says, the best way to eliminate answer choices is based on MEANING.

siyer did a great job of reducing the sentence. Let's do that real quick.

"The Menomini crafted a canoe, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage..."

Right off the bat, I'm noticing a construction of "could carry X or Y" Our answer choices are all after "Y" (baggage), so we need to figure out what the purpose is for everything after Y.

The quick answer? Everything after Y needs to be modifying "canoe", but some answer choices modify "baggage."

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(A) From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.


I fell for this answer. I misinterpreted the meaning.

"The Menomini crafted a canoe, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage so light that a person could easily portage it around violent rapids."

I thought that everything after "baggage" was just modifying "baggage." But what would that mean? The baggage was so light that a person could easily portage it around violent rapid?

Wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense. The person wouldn't be portaging the baggage around rapids. They would be portaging the canoe around rapids. Therefore we need everything after baggage to be modifying canoe, not "baggage."

Eliminate based on MEANING.

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(B) From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage being so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.


BKimball did a great job explaining the problem with "being." Further, this answer choice makes the same mistake as (A). Everything after "baggage" would be modifying "baggage" instead of "canoe."

Eliminate based on MEANING and grammar.

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(C) From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage, yet being so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.


Same issue as (B), "being" is wrong here. But since we have a comma after "baggage", I think we are actually OK from a meaning perspective, everything after "baggage" is referring to "canoe", which is good. Nonetheless, "being" is not needed.

Eliminate based on grammar.

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(D) From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage, and so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.


Yuck. Let's look at our reduced sentence for this answer choice.

"The Menomini crafted a canoe, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage, and so light that a person could easily portage it around violent rapids."

The "comma + and" is wrong here. If we're going to have a comma + and, I think we need an independent clause. But we don't have a verb after the comma + and.

Eliminate based on grammar.

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(E) From the bark of the paper birch tree the Menomini crafted a canoe about twenty feet long and two feet wide, with small ribs and rails of cedar, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage yet was so light that a person could easily portage it around impeding rapids.


I was unable to eliminate this one, but like I mentioned earlier, I sheepishly still chose (A). But when we dive into the meaning, this one is the most clear and concise.

The "yet" introduces a contrast.

"The Menomini crafted a canoe, which could carry four persons or eight hundred pounds of baggage yet was so light that a person could easily portage it around violent rapids.

*Thinking out loud:* So the Menomi crafted a canoe, it could carry X or Y, yet (the canoe) was so light that a person could portage it around violent rapids.

This makes sense from a meaning perspective. I kind of wish we had a comma before "yet." Maybe a grammar expert can explain why we don't need a comma?

Regardless, there's nothing clearly wrong with this sentence, and it's the only other answer choice aside from (C) and (D) that conveys the correct meaning by having the modifier after "baggage" refer to "canoe."
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BKimball wrote:
Let's take a look at some of the other issues in this question:

"being" --> This word is almost always wrong. There's really no reason to ever use it unless you're referring to an "alien being" or a "human being." The reason is that it simply does not add any value to the sentence. The following two sentences mean the same thing:

"Because I was being so cold, I put on a jacket."
"Because I was cold, I put on a jacket."

This is a simple example, but notice how the question above plays with this exact same concept.

"yet" --> When we use the conjunction "yet" or "but" we're indicating a contrast:

"I love cheese, but I hate cream cheese." --> There's a contrast here, so I'd use "but" or "yet."
"I love pizza, and I love lasagna." --> No contrast here, so we use "and."

Notice how the answer choices here play with your ability to decide whether you need to use "yet" or "and."

Just wanted to take this question a bit further. It's always good to dissect an OG problem in as many ways as you possibly can.


Shouldn't yet' mentioned in option E be preceded with a comma? Without that, the construction doesn't make sense, in my opinion. Kindly explain.

could anyone answer this question that I bold it in red color ???? I do not know why "yet" did not get comma in preceding ?!?! although conjunction need comma !
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