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GMAT Focus Algorithm - GMAT Prep What if Scenarios [Focus] 11 May 2025, 12:32
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Hi, does missing the very first question of the test impact the overall score too brutally? what is the penalty of this in your observations so far?

Thank you for sharing the analysis! and going through all these experiments for the forum :)
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I will have to check my spreadsheet. I can’t remember exactly on the spot ... but I have done a few tests with 2, 3 wrong at the start. It didn’t seem like it was impacting the score as much as it used to on the previous version of the GMAT.

PS. If you find yourself making mistakes on the first few questions of the test, looks likely due to not warming up so I would recommend making sure you have some questions to solve before the test.
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Yes, I've been getting the 1st question wrong and then I start getting them right 2nd onwards, so I will increase my warm-up from the current 2-3 questions to a bit more on the day and a day prior too. Thank you for sharing, appreciate it
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Hi, does missing the very first question of the test impact the overall score too brutally? what is the penalty of this in your observations so far?

Thank you for sharing the analysis! and going through all these experiments for the forum :)

I will have to check my spreadsheet. I can’t remember exactly on the spot ... but I have done a few tests with 2, 3 wrong at the start. It didn’t seem like it was impacting the score as much as it used to on the previous version of the GMAT.

PS. If you find yourself making mistakes on the first few questions of the test, looks likely due to not warming up so I would recommend making sure you have some questions to solve before the test.
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So looking at this do you recommend taking the order as best to not-so-good sections in the test? to help the score on the latter sections.. because if my 2nd section is worse than the 3rd, will it impact the score of the 3rd section by a huge margin?

what about stamina though, for me quant takes more stamina than DI, so I would rather pick up quant post the break
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Thank you for sharing! This is very interesting!

Unfortunate we can't really compare 1 mistake on the test - there are different sections and different difficulties of questions.

But here are some clues/things I have observed:
You left the last question unanswered. That has a HUGE impact on the Focus. You lost 4-5 points on that one.

The most interesting aspect to me is your DI performance and why it was so inconsistent. You got very different scores in Test 1 and Test 2. Did you take these sections in a different order? The only explanation for having such different scores on data insights is that you got an easier section in one case and the harder section in another which means these must’ve been taken second or third.


Because of your performance in the first section, your (second) section started with easier questions (fewer hard questions, means mistakes are more painful) which also caused your third section to start out easier as well and similarly carry s steep penalty for any mistake... 😥 (this is my understanding of the algorithm which is still evolving as I am taking more tests and have more data points).


In terms of how to score better, I have not run all the experiments yet to try different scenarios so I appreciate your example here. I don’t know what was the time between the two tests and why your performance on the data insights was so much better than one than the other.... I think that’s the biggest question.
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Hi Prakruti_Patil,

I’ve reviewed (microscopically) over 25 official ESR reports from my students, and based on those insights, I can confidently say that early mistakes in a section—especially the first few questions—can significantly penalize your score. However, I agree with BB's observation: the penalty in GMAT Focus Edition seems somewhat milder compared to the GMAT Classic, likely because the difficulty level of subsequent questions doesn’t decline as sharply.

This could also be attributed to the new flexibility GMAT Focus offers—allowing you to go back and review or change answers to up to three questions per section. For instance, one student who answered the second question in Quant incorrectly but got the rest correct ended up with a Quant score of 87. In contrast, another student who made a mistake on question 16, with all others correct, scored a 90/90—supporting the idea that earlier errors carry a heavier weight.

Regarding section order, I recommend starting with the section you feel most confident in. This helps build positive momentum for the remaining sections. Many of my students—especially those with average to good Quant skills—follow a Q–V–Break–DI order and have seen strong results with this strategy.

As for concerns about mental stamina, I’d suggest taking that more as a reflection of test conditioning rather than a fixed limitation. Fatigue is real, but with disciplined practice under timed conditions, it can be managed effectively. Each section in the GMAT carries equal weight and importance, so instead of just choosing the “least damaging” path, it’s better to build the endurance and mindset needed to perform consistently across all sections.

Let me know if you’d like to dive deeper into your ESR or prep strategy—I’d be happy to help.
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Thank you so much, these insights and perspective are very helpful!
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Hi Prakruti_Patil,

I’ve reviewed (microscopically) over 25 official ESR reports from my students, and based on those insights, I can confidently say that early mistakes in a section—especially the first few questions—can significantly penalize your score. However, I agree with BB's observation: the penalty in GMAT Focus Edition seems somewhat milder compared to the GMAT Classic, likely because the difficulty level of subsequent questions doesn’t decline as sharply.

This could also be attributed to the new flexibility GMAT Focus offers—allowing you to go back and review or change answers to up to three questions per section. For instance, one student who answered the second question in Quant incorrectly but got the rest correct ended up with a Quant score of 87. In contrast, another student who made a mistake on question 16, with all others correct, scored a 90/90—supporting the idea that earlier errors carry a heavier weight.

Regarding section order, I recommend starting with the section you feel most confident in. This helps build positive momentum for the remaining sections. Many of my students—especially those with average to good Quant skills—follow a Q–V–Break–DI order and have seen strong results with this strategy.

As for concerns about mental stamina, I’d suggest taking that more as a reflection of test conditioning rather than a fixed limitation. Fatigue is real, but with disciplined practice under timed conditions, it can be managed effectively. Each section in the GMAT carries equal weight and importance, so instead of just choosing the “least damaging” path, it’s better to build the endurance and mindset needed to perform consistently across all sections.

Let me know if you’d like to dive deeper into your ESR or prep strategy—I’d be happy to help.
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Adding my two cents here: only selecting an alternative on the last question is no longer enough; it will not be recorded as an answer! You need to click "Next"!

I took the GMAT a few weeks ago and had many issues that day, both directly and indirectly related to the test, unfortunately. One of the issues was time management. I didn't have enough time to finish Verbal and DI sections properly. And in both, I left the last question with my answer only selected on the choice I thought was correct. I let time run out that way. What a mistake...

When the official results arrived, I realized that GMAT considered them as unaswered!
That explained a lot about why my final score dropped down to the mere 50th percentile.

But I learned a lesson that day -> Yes, you have to submit your last answer by clicking on "Next" button, otherwise it won't be considered valid.
A mistake I'll never allow to happen again.
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Adding my two cents here: only selecting an alternative on the last question is no longer enough; it will not be recorded as an answer! You need to click "Next"!

I took the GMAT a few weeks ago and had many issues that day, both directly and indirectly related to the test, unfortunately. One of the issues was time management. I didn't have enough time to finish Verbal and DI sections properly. And in both, I left the last question with my answer only selected on the choice I thought was correct. I let time run out that way. What a mistake...

When the official results arrived, I realized that GMAT considered them as unaswered!
That explained a lot about why my final score dropped down to the mere 50th percentile.

But I learned a lesson that day -> Yes, you have to submit your last answer by clicking on "Next" button, otherwise it won't be considered valid.
A mistake I'll never allow to happen again.
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Thank you! Yes. you must submit now.
Sorry about the hard lesson :(
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