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In the past you definitely could book multiple exams at once. I have had students doing that for a long time. So I am sure you can still book multiple classic GMAT's if you wanted to do that.
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Thank you. I have not kept track of this matter until a few years ago. For the last two or three years, you were allowed to book one in person and one online test, completely independent of each other. Around April of this year, that rules seem to have been reversed and you could only book one exam and the system would not give you an opportunity to book another test. Moreover, some people who manage to book multiple tests would have their test appointments canceled. They would get a refund but we had a few reports of this matter in April or May I believe could’ve been last December 😬 But the matter is that in the last six months or so you could only book one test of any kind and you couldn’t book another appointment until your first test was completed which made it quite tricky for people who had technical difficulties or missed their exam because the GME system takes a day or 24 hours to update and so they had to painfully wait for that to pass until they could book a retake.

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Well, today was certainly an eventful GMAT news day. The students who registered for the current exam in February and March will now be forced to reschedule within a week (at no extra charge, how nice haha), or the test will be automatically rescheduled for them.

GMAC really pulled a fast one on test-takers by allowing them to purchase / register for GMAT Classic exams that it never intended to administer: specifically, any exams scheduled in February and March 2024.

There are now only 113 112 days remaining for the GMAT Classic!

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In the past you definitely could book multiple exams at once. I have had students doing that for a long time. So I am sure you can still book multiple classic GMAT's if you wanted to do that.

Thank you. I have not kept track of this matter until a few years ago. For the last two or three years, you were allowed to book one in person and one online test, completely independent of each other. Around April of this year, that rules seem to have been reversed and you could only book one exam and the system would not give you an opportunity to book another test. Moreover, some people who manage to book multiple tests would have their test appointments canceled. They would get a refund but we had a few reports of this matter in April or May I believe could’ve been last December 😬 But the matter is that in the last six months or so you could only book one test of any kind and you couldn’t book another appointment until your first test was completed which made it quite tricky for people who had technical difficulties or missed their exam because the GME system takes a day or 24 hours to update and so they had to painfully wait for that to pass until they could book a retake.

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Hmm. Again this whole thing is so needlessly confusing! I was referring to booking two appointments at a test center (more than 16 days apart). I could swear that I have had students do that in the last 6 months, but maybe I am mistaken?

And on the test-center + at-home GMAT "loophole" (how you could book two tests within 16 days of each other), most students I've worked with have not be able to do this in the last 6 months or so, but I actually had one girl successfully do it in August. And her tests were not cancelled. She took them both. I am not totally sure why she was able to do it whereas others have not.

Wish all of this could just be more transparent!!!
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Very interesting. They may have relaxed the rule again or stopped and forcing it about the 16 days between online and in person and maybe started allowing multiple attempts but that was never communicated… one of those gray areas that are not stated anywhere. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of it … but again, we don’t know how long we’ll have the latest information since it can change at any moment without notice.

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In the past you definitely could book multiple exams at once. I have had students doing that for a long time. So I am sure you can still book multiple classic GMAT's if you wanted to do that.

Thank you. I have not kept track of this matter until a few years ago. For the last two or three years, you were allowed to book one in person and one online test, completely independent of each other. Around April of this year, that rules seem to have been reversed and you could only book one exam and the system would not give you an opportunity to book another test. Moreover, some people who manage to book multiple tests would have their test appointments canceled. They would get a refund but we had a few reports of this matter in April or May I believe could’ve been last December 😬 But the matter is that in the last six months or so you could only book one test of any kind and you couldn’t book another appointment until your first test was completed which made it quite tricky for people who had technical difficulties or missed their exam because the GME system takes a day or 24 hours to update and so they had to painfully wait for that to pass until they could book a retake.

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Hmm. Again this whole thing is so needlessly confusing! I was referring to booking two appointments at a test center (more than 16 days apart). I could swear that I have had students do that in the last 6 months, but maybe I am mistaken?

And on the test-center + at-home GMAT "loophole" (how you could book two tests within 16 days of each other), most students I've worked with have not be able to do this in the last 6 months or so, but I actually had one girl successfully do it in August. And her tests were not cancelled. She took them both. I am not totally sure why she was able to do it whereas others have not.

Wish all of this could just be more transparent!!!
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One question, maybe I have missed it.

Will GMAT Focus attempts be considered separately? Or will it be counted on top of the GMAT Classic Attempts?

I have attempted twice already and this piece of information would actually help me plan better.
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Do you have any new information to share on this issue? Thanks!
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I do not know why the paper and ebook versions are different. My ebook version does not mention anything that DI is NOT adaptive. The contrary, instead

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ALL three sections are adaptive!!!!
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One question, maybe I have missed it.

Will GMAT Focus attempts be considered separately? Or will it be counted on top of the GMAT Classic Attempts?

I have attempted twice already and this piece of information would actually help me plan better.
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Hi sood1596,

Unless one of your GMAT attempts was an online GMAT taken between Apr 20, 2020 and Sep 22, 2020, both your attempts will count towards the lifetime limit.
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Hey guys. Does anyone know if the new score report (which sounds like it's basically the current ESR) will be available for online/at-home version of the GMAT Focus? The fact that it's not with the classic GMAT has been one good reason to just take it at a test center, imo.

Apologies if this has been posted somewhere already. On mba.com I couldn't find anything about it not being available with the online/at-home version and since it's the new style of the official score report, I have to assume it will be the same for both test center and online/at-home, but wanted to see if anyone knows for sure.
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Good afternoon, everyone. Just following up on the Data Insights issue discussed earlier in the thread.

Any updates from GMAC as to whether the Data Insights section of the GMAT Focus is adaptive? So far, it has provided us with severely conflicting information on the issue.

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Good afternoon, everyone. Just following up on the Data Insights issue discussed earlier in the thread.

Any updates from GMAC as to whether the Data Insights section is adaptive? Thus far, it has provided us with severely conflicting information on the issue.

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Hi. Thank you for following up. I have not heard back yet on any of the 2 questions (DI adaptability or ability to schedule multiple tests in advance) and the GMAC representative on YouTube today did not really address these questions…

But I think the first one is pretty safe to assume that data insights section is adaptive.

I will follow up in a few days, once it’s been about a week. 😇

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Good question. I am happy to send this over as well to GMAC as a question to be the third question we have not had an answer to 😂😇

Obviously I don’t know but I have my thoughts and ideas. It seems the focus version of the test has been made to have fewer differentiation between the online and in person test but I would like to get a confirmation before jumping to conclusions….


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Apologies if this has been posted somewhere already. On mba.com I couldn't find anything about it not being available with the online/at-home version and since it's the new style of the official score report, I have to assume it will be the same for both test center and online/at-home, but wanted to see if anyone knows for sure.
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I can't recall exactly where I read this, but I believe GMAC has been using vague language ("a unified score report experience," etc.) that implies (but of course does not guarantee) that this promised free "expanded and improved" score report option will carry over to the GMAT Focus online as well.

source: https://www.mba.com/exams/gmat-focus-edition/faqs

This new system would stand in stark contrast to the current, fractured GMAT score reporting system, where classic GMAT online scores and classic test-center GMAT scores are managed via completely separate score reporting systems that follow completely different rules.

I don't know why GMAC never got around to offering an ESR option for the GMAT Classic online—it had years to get it done.

"No ESR" has always been the biggest disadvantage of the GMAT online, and I'm guessing/hoping that GMAC plans to rectify that soon.

Another bizarre twist? According to an early article from GMAC's PR arm, Business Because, the GMAT Focus score report will not include section scores—only a single composite / total / "exam" score.

"Updated score reports will also include more detailed insights on your performance, and only one exam score—the current exam breaks down your score by section. Registrants will be able to send scores to five schools for free."

Source: https://www.businessbecause.com/news/in ... -gmat-exam

Although this is indeed true of exams such as the LSAT (no section scores are provided on official exams), I hope that it's not true for the Focus—because not knowing one's precise section scores (60-90 in Quant, Verbal, and Data Insights) on the real exam will make it more difficult to improve on one's initial "G-Day" performance.

Forgive my skepticism, but it's hard to believe that the GMAT Focus score report is really "new and improved" if GMAC won't even provide your section scores. Perhaps the section scores will be visible on the student score report, but not the school score report, for example?

I can't imagine that b-school adcoms would be happy about this development, either: the ability to view an applicant's individual GMAT section scores in Quant, Verbal, IR, and AWA (in addition to the total "exam score") is an essential tool at their disposal.

At this rate, we may have to wait until November 7th until we know for sure.
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I mean, I'd be absolutely shocked if you could not see a breakdown of your score by section. That just has to be part of the score report. It seems to me that the official score report is just going to be essentially like the ESR except that, as advertised, one does not need to pay extra for it.

But, yeah, since the ESR was not available for the online GMAT, I was wondering if that would change with the GMAT Focus, otherwise I'd probably still advise people to take it at a test center. Since this new information (essentially what is now on the ESR) is just part of the official score report, I have to believe that it will be available whether you take the test at a center or at home. As with a lot of these other unknowns, it would be great if GMAC could confirm that!
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Hello mcelroytutoring,

Sorry for the delayed response; we have been busy updating our content and softwares...

That DI is "adaptive at item level" was conveyed in as many words and we confirmed it. No, we don't have any updates in this regard.

Logically, as all 3 sections carry equal weightage now, each section is likely to be adaptive. That two are and one isn't seems highly unlikely.

Thank you.



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Yup, we were fooled! In retrospect, Wharton had it right all along.

I also just received the email from GMAC. Title: "The updated GMAT Focus Edition is replacing the previous GMAT Exam on January 31, 2024."

On another note...

Hi ExpertsGlobal5,

You had indicated in a previous post that the Data Insights section is adaptive:

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DI section is also adaptive (at item level).
Below is an image from page 215 of the O.G. 2023-2024: "Unlike the GMAT exam's Quantitative Reasoning and Verbal Reasoning sections, the Data Insights section is not computer adaptive. This means that answering questions correctly or incorrectly doesn't affect which questions appear next."



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Thanks for your response!

Given its conflicting statements on the issue of whether Data Insights is adaptive, GMAC needs to address this issue explicitly before any of us can know for sure.

Does anyone else know about this "only one exam score" language regarding the GMAT Focus from the Business Because article? Am I misreading it?

"Updated score reports will also include more detailed insights on your performance, and only one exam score—the current exam breaks down your score by section. Registrants will be able to send scores to five schools for free."

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I think this is more of a poor journalism, but since BB is an entity owned by GMAC, I think it is worth asking as well. I will pile it on (still no reply) though the contact I have mentioned he was busy traveling with the MBA Tour.


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Thanks for your response!

Given its conflicting statements on the issue, GMAC needs to answer this question explicitly before any of us can know for sure.

Does anyone else know about this "only one exam score" language from Business Because? Am I misreading it?

"Updated score reports will also include more detailed insights on your performance, and only one exam score—the current exam breaks down your score by section. Registrants will be able to send scores to five schools for free."


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I suspect and hope that you are right. Receiving a GMAT Focus "exam score" from 205-805, but no individual Q/V/DI section score information would be highly frustrating.

Perhaps B.B. meant to write something like "the current GMAT has three separate scoring scales for the Quant/Verbal (6-51), Integrated Reasoning (1-8), and Analytical Writing Assessment (0-6) sections—whereas the new GMAT Focus will have only one "main score" and a single scoring scale (60-90) for its three multiple-choice sections of Quant, Verbal, and Data Insights."

"Unlike the current GMAT, where only the Quant and Verbal sections affect the 200-800 composite score conversion, all three sections of the Focus will count toward the total exam score."

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GMAT Focus Edition - Everything You Need to Know 17 Oct 2023, 23:58
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Good afternoon, everyone. Just following up on the Data Insights issue discussed earlier in the thread.

Any updates from GMAC as to whether the Data Insights section of the GMAT Focus is adaptive? So far, it has provided us with severely conflicting information on the issue.

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Hi

but according to the screenshots above I do not think there are conflicting answers or deceptive information. DI is adaptive.

It would NOT any sense the contrary!!!
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GMAT Focus Edition - Everything You Need to Know 18 Oct 2023, 03:16
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Perhaps B.B. meant to write something like "the current GMAT has three separate scoring scales for the Quant/Verbal (6-51), Integrated Reasoning (1-8), and Analytical Writing Assessment (0-6) sections—whereas the new GMAT Focus will have only one "main score" and a single scoring scale (60-90) for its three multiple-choice sections of Quant, Verbal, and Data Insights."

"Unlike the current GMAT, where only the Quant and Verbal sections affect the 200-800 composite score conversion, all three sections of the Focus will count toward the total exam score."
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Well put. Makes full sense to me.

Further, that the official mocks continue to give sectional scores is another small indication that the sectional scores are very much there to stay.

The term "only one exam score" is indeed a bit confusing.

I hope there is no confusion around whether all the older scores in the last 5 years will continue to be included in the scores forwarded to institutions.
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WooHoo! 🎉 Got some answers - thank you GMAC. Posting them here just as they are
Some interesting changes to multiple test attempts!

1. Are applicants allowed to book multiple appointments for the GMAT Classic Exam from now until Jan 31, 2024? Or in general this policy has been changed?

    To clarify candidates can have multiple future appointments scheduled, e.g.:
    Candidates can have multiple future appointments scheduled across exam versions and channels. However, only one appointment can be booked at a time, and appointments must be scheduled at least 16-days apart. Our 12-month and lifetime limits also apply across exam versions and channels - only 5 attempts are permitted in a rolling 12-month period and 8 attempts in a lifetime.



2. Can a person book an online test and an in person test that are fewer than 16 days apart? Does the 16 day rule apply in any case or does it only apply in case the same test format is taken again? (repeat version of the question just in case)

    The 16-day rule applies regardless of the delivery method a candidates choose.


3. "Updated score reports will also include more detailed insights on your performance, and only one exam score—the current exam breaks down your score by section. Registrants will be able to send scores to five schools for free."
What does "only one exam score" mean? Is it a "total exam score" rather than section scores or does it refer to one exam versus multiple exam scores (like if you previously took the exam)? Also, does this have anything to do with what is reported to the schools--do they get just one exam score?

    This will answer your question since there are some parts I believe are mixed in the question that need to be addressed in separate bullets.

  • Once candidates start taking the GMAT™ Focus Edition, they will receive their Total Score, Sub-Section scores, and percentiles for each. The Official Score Report will also include detailed performance insights for overall performance and sub-section performance. Candidates will be able to access GMAT Focus Edition scores and any valid scores from previous exams via their mba.com Account.

  • The "only one exam score" refers to what is reported to schools - with the GMAT Focus Edition - similar to the GMAT exam delivered online - candidates have the flexibility to select which score to send to which programs. Only the score selected will be sent to the program(s) selected (no other scores will be sent along with it).

  • Note that the Official Score Report that schools receive has been updated to account for both versions of the GMAT™ exam, and they are fully aware of the score scale changes and score concordance tables, so if candidates are asking about that, rest assured that schools do know what to expect.
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