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The author is primarily concerned with
(A) refuting a proposed thesis about eighteenth-century America
(B) analyzing a long-established interpretation of American history
(C) criticizing a set of deeply held beliefs about early American ideology
(D) reconciling opposing interpretations of eighteenth-century American ideology
(E) defending a novel reading of the ideology of eighteenth-century America

Request experts to explain how the OA is A...and why not other options such as B or D
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Can anyone please explain question 7?
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Hi GMATNinjaTwo

In question 6 options A and D both represent the thought of the author as to why Pocock's theory was not plausible enough.

If Americans did believe in the ideals of classical virtue that stressed civic duty and made the whole community greater than its discrete parts, then why did the colonists lack a sense of obligation to support the greater good of the British Empire? If indeed America has not always been the society of individual rights and self-interest that it is today, how and when did it be come so?

How is A correct ?
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In question 6 options A and D both represent the thought of the author as to why Pocock's theory was not plausible enough.

If Americans did believe in the ideals of classical virtue that stressed civic duty and made the whole community greater than its discrete parts, then why did the colonists lack a sense of obligation to support the greater good of the British Empire? If indeed America has not always been the society of individual rights and self-interest that it is today, how and when did it be come so?

How is A correct ?
Both (A) and (D) relate to information in the passage, but as usual, the exact language of each option has a significant impact on the meaning of the answer choice.

Take another look at (D):
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(D) Why many colonists who embraced classical republicanism were reluctant to place their individual interests above those of Great Britain
Remember, classical republicans regarded those who "are willing to sacrifice their individual interests for the sake of the community" as virtuous. Would these people be reluctant to place their individual interests above those of Great Britain? Not if they were truly classical republicans!

The author actually demands the answer to the opposite question in the passage: "If Americans did believe in the ideals of classical virtue that stressed civic duty and made the whole community greater than its discrete parts, then why did the colonists lack a sense of obligation to support the greater good of the British Empire?" In other words, why were these colonists not concerned about ditching their classical republican ideals and failing to support Great Britain?

Because the supposedly classical republican colonists were not reluctant to place their individual interests above those of Great Britain, the answer to (D) would not make Pocock's argument more plausible. For this reason, (D) is out.

Compare that with (A):
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(A) How a society that was once committed to the ideals of classical virtue could be transformed into a society of individual rights and self-interest
In the passage, the author asks "If indeed America has not always been the society of individual rights and self-interest that it is today, how and when did it become so?"

This aligns closely with the language of (A) -- both ask Pocock to explain the America's transformation to a self-interested society if indeed it was a classically republican society in the 18th century. (A) is the correct answer.

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The best way to go about question #7 is to examine the question and then use POE on the answer choices.

To answer the question, we are looking for something that Pocock's theory suggests about 18th century Americans. Pocock believed that American society at this time was shaped by classical republicanism -- so, what would these classically republican Americans believe about increasing commercial activity? Would it:

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(A) force the landed gentry to relinquish their vast holdings
There is no support in the passage for this answer choice. "Landed gentry" are mentioned near the end of the passage, but nowhere does the author imply that classical republicans believed that increasing commercial activity would somehow force the gentry to give up their land. (A) is out.

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(B) enrich the nation and increase individual rights
Classical republicans saw commerce as "the greatest enemy of virtue." So, commerce is not seen in a positive light at all, and increasing commercial activity was not seen as a way to "enrich the nation." (B) is out.

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(C) cause some people to forfeit their liberty and virtue
Here is what the passage says about liberty, virtue, and commerce in the eyes of classical republicans:
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Liberty was interpreted as a condition that is realized when people are virtuous and are willing to sacrifice their individual interests for the sake of the community. To be completely virtuous, people had to be independent and free of the petty interests of the marketplace. The greatest enemy of virtue was commerce.
So, what would happen with increasing commercial activity?
  • "The greatest enemy of virtue was commerce," so increasing commercial activity would make it more difficult to be virtuous.
  • "Liberty... is realized when people are virtuous," so if it is more difficult to be virtuous, then it is less likely that people would have liberty.

In all, classical republicans believed that increasing commercial activity would decrease the number of people who were virtuous and therefore had liberty. Let's keep (C) for now.

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(D) create a mood of optimism about national prosperity
Nope. Classical republicans did not support increasing commercial activity, and optimism about national prosperity is mentioned in the last sentence of the passage to describe how Americans were actually not classical republicans. (D) is out.

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(E) strengthen the political appeal of middle-class radicals
The passage does not imply that classical republicans connected increasing commercial activity with a strengthened appeal of middle class radicals.

(E) is out, and (C) is our answer.

I hope that helps!
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Question 5

I followed Process of elimination

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5. The passage suggests that, if classical republicanism had been the ideology of eighteenth-century America, which of the following would have resulted?

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(A) People would have been motivated to open small businesses and expand commercial activity.

This can be easily eliminated because it is out of scope, not at all mentioned in the passage.

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(B) Citizens and politicians would not have been encouraged to agitate for increased individual rights.

If you have understood second paragraph of the passage, then you would know that middle class have not accepted this ideals so rather they might encouraged to agitate for the increased individual rights. Wrong Eliminate.

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(C) People would have been convinced that by pursuing their own interests they were contributing to the good of the group.

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Pocock’s argument is right, then Americans may not be as deeply individualistic and capitalistic as many believe. Pocock argues that out of the writings of antiquity Machiavelli created a body of political thinking called “classical republicanism.” This body of thought revived the ancient belief that a human being was by nature a citizen who achieved moral fulfillment by participating in a self-governing republic.

Correct. People achieved moral fulfillment.... So this can not be eliminated

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(D) The political and social privileges enjoyed by the landed gentry would have been destroyed.

No 180° Opposite answer eliminated

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(E) A mood of optimism among people over individual profits and prosperity would have been created.

It could have been created among middle class but not among all. Wrong eliminate.
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For Q5 even though I myself chose C over B, I can justify why B might be a better choice.

5. The passage suggests that, if classical republicanism had been the ideology of eighteenth-century America, which of the following would have resulted?

(B) Citizens and politicians would not have been encouraged to agitate for increased individual rights.
(C) People would have been convinced that by pursuing their own interests they were contributing to the good of the group.

Okay so basically the essence of republicanism is that people think of greater good of community over their own good. Sacrifice of self per se.
But I see that paragraph 1 never refuses that people do not think about individual rights. It in facts states that people do really think about individual rights. But the goal of fighting for their individual rights is that if they are free, they can help the community.

"To be completely virtuous, people had to be independent and free of the petty interests of the marketplace."

Very subtle point.

Thus option B is wrong. Because even if they fight for their freedom, this fact doesn't imply that they are fighting for personal reasons. As stated, to be able to help others, one must be "free", "independent" .. for if you ain't free yourself, how are you gonna help the community?

C on the other hand, to have that republicanism ideology, people must be clear in their mind that their fight for individual rights is "for the greater good of the community"-------> precisely what option C says.

Oof, that was a tough one. I definitely had a big brain exercise trying to justify option B. Also, I know the OA so I am able to justify it. Totally different game to be 100% sure with such questions in your first go. It is very subtle but clearly the essence behind the writing.

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Hi AndrewN GMATNinja

I am not sure what are your comments on Q5.
I gave up this question :(

Another Point:
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Influenced by Pocock, some historians have even argued that a communitarian and precapitalist mentality was pervasive among the eighteenth-century farmers of America.

Shall I interpret it as:
Historians argued that communitarian and precapitalistic mentality was pervasive. . In other words they argued because they didn't agree that communitarian and precapitalist mentality was pervasive among the eighteenth-century farmers. Otherwise why would they argue if they can agree that communitarian and precapitalist mentality was pervasive among the eighteenth-century farmers.

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Influenced by Pocock, some historians have even argued . It means historians are in agreement with Pocock. And, Pocock words implies that capitalist mentality was not in minds of people. But sacrifice individual rights over prosperity of community was the main thing.

Thirdly , ( YET)
Next passage starts with : Yet Pocock’s thesis and the reinterpretation of the history of eighteenth-century America engendered by it are of dubious validity
It means change in language. Now the para talks about against Pocock theory .So previous lines must be in favour of Pocock .

Is my understanding correct or Am i doing some blunder? Please give your opinion .

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Hi AndrewN GMATNinja

I am not sure what are your comments on Q5.
I gave up this question :(

Another Point:
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Influenced by Pocock, some historians have even argued that a communitarian and precapitalist mentality was pervasive among the eighteenth-century farmers of America.

Shall I interpret it as:
Historians argued that communitarian and precapitalistic mentality was pervasive. . In other words they argued because they didn't agree that communitarian and precapitalist mentality was pervasive among the eighteenth-century farmers. Otherwise why would they argue if they can agree that communitarian and precapitalist mentality was pervasive among the eighteenth-century farmers.

Second point :
Influenced by Pocock, some historians have even argued . It means historians are in agreement with Pocock. And, Pocock words implies that capitalist mentality was not in minds of people. But sacrifice individual rights over prosperity of community was the main thing.
The word “argue” does not necessarily mean to “disagree.” In this instance, “to argue” means “to give reasons or cite evidence in support of a theory.” For that reason, we can interpret the sentence you referenced as follows:

    Influenced by Pocock, some historians have even asserted (or stated) that a communitarian and precapitalist mentality was pervasive among the eighteenth-century farmers of America.

In other words, these historians, like Pocock, believed the capitalist mindset was not pervasive and even went as far as to assert that farmers had a precapitalist/communitarian mentality.

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Thirdly , ( YET)
Next passage starts with : Yet Pocock’s thesis and the reinterpretation of the history of eighteenth-century America engendered by it are of dubious validity
It means change in language. Now the para talks about against Pocock theory .So previous lines must be in favour of Pocock .

Is my understanding correct or Am i doing some blunder? Please give your opinion .

Thanks!
The first paragraph introduces Pocock’s view that America was influenced by Machiavelli. In the second paragraph, the author describes his/her doubts about Pocock’s view.

I hope that helps!
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what are your thoughts on q5 for this RC passage? B seems pretty popular and I still think that it is the right answer - can't seem to find any supporting reason for C being the correct answer.

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what are your thoughts on q5 for this RC passage? B seems pretty popular and I still think that it is the right answer - can't seem to find any supporting reason for C being the correct answer.

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Yes, (B) does work better. Request the OP to post the solution and explanation from the original source.
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Could you please help explain why option B in question 5 is wrong?
I don't think choice C is supported by any info in the passage.

Also, Could you please help explain question 2 in details?
I don't have any clue to solve this question.
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Hi, Please explain how the answer for Question 5 is C. I can't relate to the explanations given above.­

I have the same issue that, passage describes that sacrificing own interests would lead greater good of the society. The how will persuing own interests will help in greater good of society.
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Yeah, Q5 definitely can't be C. C is describing more of a capitalist way of thinking--people contribute by pursuing their own self-interest. That's the opposite of what we want here.

B isn't really a good answer--we don't know for sure that people wouldn't also have been encouraged to gain more rights for themselves--but it's at least consistent with the mindset the author associates with classical republicanism.
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