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If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?

(1) The sum of x and y is even
(2) The product of x and y is odd.

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If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?

\(3x + 5 < x + 11\) --> \(x<3\). So, we have that x is less than 3. There is only one prime number less than 3, namely 2. So, the question basically asks whether \(x=2\). Notice here that we are not told that x and y are integers.

(1) The sum of x and y is even. It's certainly possible that x is a prime number, for example if \(x=y=2\), but it's also possible that x is NOT a prime number, for example if \(x=y=1\). Not sufficient.

(2) The product of x and y is odd. The same here: it's possible that x is a prime number, for example if \(x=2\) and \(y=0.5\), but it's also possible that x is NOT a prime number, for example if \(x=y=1\). Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Suppose \(x=2=prime\), then from (1) it follows that \(y=even\), but in this case \(xy=even\), not odd as stated in (2). Thus our assumption that \(x=2=prime\) was wrong. Therefore, x cannot be a prime number. Sufficient.

Answer: C.

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First of all, the question should be in DS section... and second, question stem seem to be missing Y... is it 3x + 5 < y + 11 or 3y + 5 < x + 11 ?

And if question stem is correct, then here is the solution:
3x + 5 < x + 11
2x <6
x < 3 (so possible values .....0,1,2)

St1. x+y= Even ... this will happen only if both are even or if both are odd.... so not-sufficient

St2. XY=Odd ... both has to be odd....So x can have only one value i.e. 1 as 0 and 2 are Even

So B is sufficient to answer the question.
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First of all, the question should be in DS section... and second, question stem seem to be missing Y... is it 3x + 5 < y + 11 or 3y + 5 < x + 11 ?

And if question stem is correct, then here is the solution:
3x + 5 < x + 11
2x <6
x < 3 (so possible values .....0,1,2)

St1. x+y= Even ... this will happen only if both are even or if both are odd.... so not-sufficient

St2. XY=Odd ... both has to be odd....So x can have only one value i.e. 1 as 0 and 2 are Even

So B is sufficient to answer the question.


Only B is NOT sufficient. We dont know whether y is integer.
x=2, y=1.5 -> xy=3 odd
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Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.

Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.
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PraPon wrote:
Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.

Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.


Hi PraPon,

Here u are assuming x=2 and moving forward!

But wat if x is negative?
if x= -3 or x= -10

coz question doesnt state x is positive !
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shanmugamgsn wrote:
PraPon wrote:
Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.

Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.


Hi PraPon,

Here u are assuming x=2 and moving forward!

But wat if x is negative?
if x= -3 or x= -10

coz question doesnt state x is positive !


The point is if we assume that x=2=prime, then both statements cannot be true at the same time, which means that x cannot be 2. Check here: if-3x-5-x-11-is-x-prime-146067.html#p1171395

Hope it;s clear.
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PrashantPonde wrote:
Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.




Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.



According to my knowledge 1 is Neither Prime nor Composite.
Please correct me if GMAT thinks the other way.
I am really concerned about this
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shanmugamgsn wrote:
PraPon wrote:
Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.

Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.


Hi PraPon,

Here u are assuming x=2 and moving forward!

But wat if x is negative?
if x= -3 or x= -10

coz question doesnt state x is positive !



Are prime No. Negative as well.

I thought Primes are from 2,3,5...And 1 being neither prime nor Composite.
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PrashantPonde wrote:
Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.




Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.



According to my knowledge 1 is Neither Prime nor Composite.
Please correct me if GMAT thinks the other way.
I am really concerned about this


GMAT doe not have some kind of their own math.

Facts about primes:
1. 1 is not a prime, since it only has one divisor, namely 1.
2. Only positive numbers can be primes.
3. There are infinitely many prime numbers.
4. the only even prime number is 2. Also 2 is the smallest prime.
5. All prime numbers except 2 and 5 end in 1, 3, 7 or 9.

Theory on Number Properties: math-number-theory-88376.html
Number Properties - Tips and hints: tips-and-hints-for-specific-quant-topics-with-examples-172096.html#p1371030

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If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?

(1) The sum of x and y is even
(2) The product of x and y is odd.


It's not an original question, see here https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t2804.html

Please find below the original question from MGMAT

If x and y are positive integers and 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x a prime number?

(1) The sum of x and y is even.
(2) The product of x and y is odd.

And the answer for the original question is B
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I have a different variation of this question from my source.

If x and y are positive integers and 3 x + 5 < x + 11, is x a prime number?
(1) The sum of x and y is even.
(2) The product of x and y is odd.

in this case, answer should be B.

If y is not given as integer explicitly in the question, then answer is C
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PrashantPonde wrote:
Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.

Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.



I don't really get it. If we assume x = 1 and y = 3 don't we get a different answer? The sum would be even and the product odd.
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fracheva wrote:
PrashantPonde wrote:
Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.

Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.



I don't really get it. If we assume x = 1 and y = 3 don't we get a different answer? The sum would be even and the product odd.



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Yes, thats the point. If we take your example of x=1, y=3, it satisfies both the question statements as you have just written. And what is x here? x=1, which is NOT prime. So this again proves that x is not a prime number.

No matter which values of x/y we take which satisfy both the given statements, we will always get a value of x which is NOT prime. So this is sufficient to answer the question with a NO. Hence C answer
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amanvermagmat wrote:
fracheva wrote:
PrashantPonde wrote:
Question: If 3x + 5 < x + 11, is x prime?
Simplify equation to x<3. Hence question becomes is x=2?

(1) the sum of x and y is even
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know y

(2) The product of x and y is odd.
INSUFFICIENT: We dont know whether y is integer
e.g. x=2, y=1.5 then xy=3 (ODD)
e.g. x=1, y=3 then xy=3 (ODD)
x can be 1 or 2, hence its not sufficient.

Combining (1) & (2)
SUFFICIENT:
If x = 2, y must be 1.5 or -1.5 to make xy (ODD), however x + y cannot be EVEN.
If x = 2, y must be 0 or even to make x + y (EVEN), however xy cannot be ODD
Thus if x=2, both statements cannot be true simultaneously.
This information is SUFFICIENT to prove x cannot be 2.

Hence choice(C) is the answer.



I don't really get it. If we assume x = 1 and y = 3 don't we get a different answer? The sum would be even and the product odd.



Hello

Yes, thats the point. If we take your example of x=1, y=3, it satisfies both the question statements as you have just written. And what is x here? x=1, which is NOT prime. So this again proves that x is not a prime number.

No matter which values of x/y we take which satisfy both the given statements, we will always get a value of x which is NOT prime. So this is sufficient to answer the question with a NO. Hence C answer


Oh yeah, you're right indeed. Thanks very much :)
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