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In late 1997, the chambers inside the pyramid of the Pharaoh Menkaure

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In the interest of academic elucidation, could I seek a few clarifications?

1. Why do you think we cannot use "raising" as a noun modifier in this example…

2. If it were a verb modifier, there would have been a comma before the verbing; the logical follow up question then is as to what is the verb or action that the participle modifies and who is the doer of the action, because adverbial modifiers modify the entire previous clause meaning that there should be a legitimate subject and verb in the prior part.

3. To make life simple, who or what is raising the humidity within them.
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In the interest of academic elucidation, could I seek a few clarifications?

1. Why do you think we cannot use "raising" as a noun modifier in this example…

2. If it were a verb modifier, there would have been a comma before the verbing; the logical follow up question then is as to what is the verb or action that the participle modifies and who is the doer of the action, because adverbial modifiers modify the entire previous clause meaning that there should be a legitimate subject and verb in the prior part.

3. To make life simple, who or what is raising the humidity within them.


Thanks a lot for your response/questions (they made me think hard).

These are my answers (laughable probably) based on my ,less than limited, understanding :

1. I think the meaning is that the result of tourists' action i.e exhaling is causing the problem, not the tourists. Modifier 'raising' however is modifying the noun and not its action, apparently.

2. The answer to this is probably in #1. The noun will remain as "tourists", however, the action will also come into play. (I think).

3. Who : Tourists , What : Exhaling (Action)

Am I stressing too much on distinction between tourists and their action as the cause of 'raising' ? Or, worse yet, am I forcing a distinction when there isn't one ?

I do realize that since tourists are the ones exhaling, the distinction might as well be irrelevant, but we have a modifier (subject + ing) that modifies subject directly and a modifier (subject + comma + ing modifier) that can express result / modify action. Will they both have the same effect in this case ?

Looking forward to your response please.
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Therefore one may see that the word 'raising' that is being used as adjectival modifier doesn't work out in this case, as the verbal action that does the ultimate damage has to be done by a doer and there is no way one can separate the actor from the action.
Coming to the next point, why will a subject modifier be equal to action modifier? Obviously one is flying in the east and the other in the west and will they ever meet? GOK
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I have a question regarding option D.

(D) because of moisture that was exhaled by tourists raising the humidity within them to levels so high as to make the salt from the stone crystallize

Isn't the verb-ing modifier 'raising' incorrect ? It is being used as noun modifier where as it should be as a verb modifier ?

Typically, when we see NOUN + VERB-ing, with no comma in between, the VERB-ing modifier will describe the preceding noun. For example, "The children laughing at Tim did not appreciate that he was still in his first semester of clown college." In this case "laughing" describes the "children." The kids are laughing at the clown-in-training. Makes sense.

In (D) we have the following: "moisture that was exhaled by tourists raising the humidity..." now it sounds as though "raising" is modifying tourists. It's not logical to write that the tourists are raising the humidity. Rather, it's the moisture that's doing so.

If you're not satisfied that this is enough to eliminate (D) (and you should be!) there's another meaning problem: (D) makes it sound as though the chambers were closed because of moisture itself; that doesn't make sense - if they were closed because of the presence of moisture, they'd never open! Rather, the chambers were closed because the moisture raised the humidity so high that salt was crystalizing and fungus was growing. Put another way, it was the consequences of the moisture that caused the problem. (E) conveys this more logical meaning.

Last, as RashedVai notes, there's a parallelism issue as well. Here's (D): "make the salt from the stone crystallize and fungus was growing...." "Salt from the stone crystallize" isn't parallel to "fungus was growing"

Contrast this construction with (E): "salt from the stone was crystallizing and fungus was growing..." Now we have a nice parallel construction: "X was VERB-ing and Y was VERB-ing.

I hope that helps!
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I just noticed this question from a few months ago, and I wouldn't be surprised if other people have the same issue:
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My approach towards this question was to check the difference between "due to" and "because"


I was told that in such questions replace due to [b]WITH [/b] caused by and see whether the sentence makes a sense. If No, reject all options having "due to".

This is why I rejected A and B. Is it correct??

Replacing "due to" with "caused by" basically forces you to rely on your ear, and in general, that can be a little bit dangerous. Basically, that little trick is just a way to check whether the phrase beginning with "due to" is modifying a noun -- and I'd argue that it's simpler to just check that directly, instead of relying on the "caused by" trick.

In (A) and (B), we can't really find a noun that is logically modified by the phrase "due to moisture exhaled by tourists." It doesn't make sense to say that cleaning and repair were "due to moisture" (or "caused by moisture"), and the pyramids and chambers themselves certainly weren't "due to moisture", either.

"Due to" cannot be used to modify verbs, so we also know that the "due to" cannot modify "were closed" in (A) and (B). Why were the chambers closed? Because moisture had raised the humidity... (E).

Using "caused by" is a crowd-pleasing tool, but that tool isn't really a good way to avoid thinking about the meaning of each answer choice.

I hope this helps a bit!
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(A) due to moisture exhaled by tourists, which raised its humidity to such levels so that salt from the stone was crystallizing
1: Modifier Error - which refers to tourists
2: Pronoun Number - "its" should refer to "chambers" - thus number error.
3: Meaning - Use of "due to" implies that the closure of chambers was caused by moisture. This is not correct because closure was caused by the effect of the moisture as explained in choice E.

(B) due to moisture that tourists had exhaled, thereby raising its humidity to such levels that salt from the stone would crystallize
1: Verb tense - had exhaled is incorrect verb tense.
2: Parallelism - "salt would crystallize" is not parallel to "fungus was growing".
3: Meaning - Use of "due to" implies that the closure of chambers was caused by moisture. This is not correct because closure was caused by the effect of the moisture as explained in choice E.

(C) because tourists were exhaling moisture, which had raised the humidity within them to levels such that salt from the stone would crystallize
1: Verb Tense - " were exhaling" is incorrect verb tense; "had raised" is incorrect verb tense.
2: Parallelism - "salt would crystallize" is not parallel to "fungus was growing".

(D) because of moisture that was exhaled by tourists raising the humidity within them to levels so high as to make the salt from the stone crystallize
1: Modifier Error - "raising humidity" appears to modify "tourists" - incorrect
2: Parallelism - "salt crystallize" is not parallel to "fungus was growing".

(E) because moisture exhaled by tourists had raised the humidity within them to such levels that salt from the stone was crystallizing
Correct.


Hi,

Can someone please explained why had raised for C is incorrect but not in E?
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(A) due to moisture exhaled by tourists, which raised its humidity to such levels so that salt from the stone was crystallizing
1: Modifier Error - which refers to tourists
2: Pronoun Number - "its" should refer to "chambers" - thus number error.
3: Meaning - Use of "due to" implies that the closure of chambers was caused by moisture. This is not correct because closure was caused by the effect of the moisture as explained in choice E.

(B) due to moisture that tourists had exhaled, thereby raising its humidity to such levels that salt from the stone would crystallize
1: Verb tense - had exhaled is incorrect verb tense.
2: Parallelism - "salt would crystallize" is not parallel to "fungus was growing".
3: Meaning - Use of "due to" implies that the closure of chambers was caused by moisture. This is not correct because closure was caused by the effect of the moisture as explained in choice E.

(C) because tourists were exhaling moisture, which had raised the humidity within them to levels such that salt from the stone would crystallize
1: Verb Tense - " were exhaling" is incorrect verb tense; "had raised" is incorrect verb tense.
2: Parallelism - "salt would crystallize" is not parallel to "fungus was growing".

(D) because of moisture that was exhaled by tourists raising the humidity within them to levels so high as to make the salt from the stone crystallize
1: Modifier Error - "raising humidity" appears to modify "tourists" - incorrect
2: Parallelism - "salt crystallize" is not parallel to "fungus was growing".

(E) because moisture exhaled by tourists had raised the humidity within them to such levels that salt from the stone was crystallizing
Correct.


Hi,

Can someone please explained why had raised for C is incorrect but not in E?




Look, in (C): The use of past perfect “had raised” is incorrect given that past progressive “were exhaling” has been used. The use of past perfect indicates that the moisture had raised the humidity levels even before the moisture was exhaled by the tourists!

On the other hand, the correct answer (E) correctly uses past perfect “had raised” to communicate that the humidity had been raised before the chambers were closed.


** Look, the timeframe of "had raised" precedes the timeframe of "were closed". if you don't IMMEDIATELY understand this relationship, then you aren't doing the FIRST STEP of sentence correction correctly -- in other words, you aren't understanding the MEANING of the sentence BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT ANY GRAMMAR/MECHANICS. the point of this sentence is to describe why a certain tourist attraction was temporarily closed. this attraction was closed AS A DIRECT RESULT OF two destructive events caused by the moisture in tourists' breath. if you don't understand this cause-effect relationship -- which is also the basis for the verb tense relationship -- then you should NOT look at the answer choices, and you should NOT think AT ALL about grammar or mechanics, until you DO understand it.

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