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Hi,

I used the following approach -

Ways to Select any two points = 6C2 = 15
Each of these two points will need one more point to make a triangle, and we are left with 4 points, so total number of triangles = 15*4 = 60.

Please correct where my reasoning is flawed.
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Hi,

I used the following approach -

Ways to Select any two points = 6C2 = 15
Each of these two points will need one more point to make a triangle, and we are left with 4 points, so total number of triangles = 15*4 = 60.

Please correct where my reasoning is flawed.

This way you get duplication. Say you get points A and B with 6C2 and the third point is C, so you'd get triangle ABC. But 6C2 gives also points A and C and in this case with point B, you'd get the same triangle ABC.
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Oh I guess thay any 3 points are not on the same line, means that there are no 3 points that lie on the same line. The way I read this sentence was that out of the 6 points, 3 of them are not on the same line. So, 2 or 3 of the rest of the points could be on the same line...

Anyway, selecting 3 out of 6 what does to the points?
Because for me 6!/3!3! would mean that out of 6 points we are choosing 3 and leaving out 3...
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Hi Iw asws answering the question in the GMAT test and misunderstood the wording.

I was trying to understanding any 3 point in the line and 3 points are not not on the line.


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Oh I guess thay any 3 points are not on the same line, means that there are no 3 points that lie on the same line. The way I read this sentence was that out of the 6 points, 3 of them are not on the same line. So, 2 or 3 of the rest of the points could be on the same line...

Anyway, selecting 3 out of 6 what does to the points?
Because for me 6!/3!3! would mean that out of 6 points we are choosing 3 and leaving out 3...
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There are 6 points on the plain. Any 3 points of these 6 don't lie on the same line. How many unique triangles can be drawn using these 6 points as vertices?


A. 5
B. 10
C. 20
D. 30
E. 60

Hi Bunuel,
As soon as i saw this question, i knew i had to use combinatorics. And i directly wrote \(6c3 = 20\) as the answer.
But then the statement 'Any 3 points of these 6 don't lie on the same line' took me. I tried to understand it by drawing different possibilities on the paper but could not decipher it.
Finally, i took it as a 'restriction' on the total number of triangles that are possible (20) and divided the answer by 2 and marked 10 :(

If the question was worded like - 'There are 6 non-collinear points on the plain. How many unique triangles can be drawn using these 6 points as vertices?' Wouldnt the answer be 20?
Then what is the significance of the statement 'Any 3 points of these 6 don't lie on the same line' in the original question?

Please explain.
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There are 6 points on the plain. Any 3 points of these 6 don't lie on the same line. How many unique triangles can be drawn using these 6 points as vertices?


A. 5
B. 10
C. 20
D. 30
E. 60

Hi Bunuel,
As soon as i saw this question, i knew i had to use combinatorics. And i directly wrote \(6c3 = 20\) as the answer.
But then the statement 'Any 3 points of these 6 don't lie on the same line' took me. I tried to understand it by drawing different possibilities on the paper but could not decipher it.
Finally, i took it as a 'restriction' on the total number of triangles that are possible (20) and divided the answer by 2 and marked 10 :(

If the question was worded like - 'There are 6 non-collinear points on the plain. How many unique triangles can be drawn using these 6 points as vertices?' Wouldnt the answer be 20?
Then what is the significance of the statement 'Any 3 points of these 6 don't lie on the same line' in the original question?

Please explain.
-Thanks

Say if one set of 3 points were collinear then those 3 points will not give a triangle and in this case the answer would be 20 - 1 = 19.

Hope it's clear.
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I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
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If, out of the six points on the xy-plane, no three of them lie on the same straight line, how many distinct triangles can be formed by selecting three of the six points as vertices?


A. 5
B. 10
C. 20
D. 30
E. 60


Since no three of the six given points are collinear, any combination of three points will form a triangle. The number of different combinations of three points out of the six is given by \(C_6^3 = \frac{6!}{3! * 3!} = \frac{6 * 5 * 4}{3 * 2} = 20\)

Note that this is not a Geometry question. While it uses basic knowledge of lines and figures, it is actually a probability and combinatorics question. There are 8 questions within GMAT Prep Focus Edition that use similar principles. Here is one example.


Answer: C
"No three of them lie on the same straight line" I assumed that this means that 2 points CAN lie on the same line, but not 3. I created different scenarios accordingly and got the answer as 64.. Please help if I am reading it wrong! Bunuel
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Official Solution:


If, out of the six points on the xy-plane, no three of them lie on the same straight line, how many distinct triangles can be formed by selecting three of the six points as vertices?


A. 5
B. 10
C. 20
D. 30
E. 60


Since no three of the six given points are collinear, any combination of three points will form a triangle. The number of different combinations of three points out of the six is given by \(C_6^3 = \frac{6!}{3! * 3!} = \frac{6 * 5 * 4}{3 * 2} = 20\)

Note that this is not a Geometry question. While it uses basic knowledge of lines and figures, it is actually a probability and combinatorics question. There are 8 questions within GMAT Prep Focus Edition that use similar principles. Here is one example.


Answer: C
"No three of them lie on the same straight line" I assumed that this means that 2 points CAN lie on the same line, but not 3. I created different scenarios accordingly and got the answer as 64.. Please help if I am reading it wrong! Bunuel

Any two points always lie on the same line, so I'm not sure what you're implying...
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Official Solution:


If, out of the six points on the xy-plane, no three of them lie on the same straight line, how many distinct triangles can be formed by selecting three of the six points as vertices?


A. 5
B. 10
C. 20
D. 30
E. 60


Since no three of the six given points are collinear, any combination of three points will form a triangle. The number of different combinations of three points out of the six is given by \(C_6^3 = \frac{6!}{3! * 3!} = \frac{6 * 5 * 4}{3 * 2} = 20\)

Note that this is not a Geometry question. While it uses basic knowledge of lines and figures, it is actually a probability and combinatorics question. There are 8 questions within GMAT Prep Focus Edition that use similar principles. Here is one example.


Answer: C
"No three of them lie on the same straight line" I assumed that this means that 2 points CAN lie on the same line, but not 3. I created different scenarios accordingly and got the answer as 64.. Please help if I am reading it wrong! Bunuel

Any two points always lie on the same line, so I'm not sure what you're implying...
Oh yes!!! I did a silly mistake. Now it is clear.
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