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If \(x\) and \(y\) are negative numbers, what is the value of \(\frac{\sqrt{x^2} }{x}-\sqrt{-y*|y|}\)?

A. \(1+y\)
B. \(1-y\)
C. \(-1-y\)
D. \(y-1\)
E. \(x-y\)


Hello Bunuel

Really amazing question and explanation to understand the relation between absolute values and square roots.

The square root of y^2 will be |y|.

I just had one query here, how would we simplify the following expression:

Square root of (-y * y): would it be |y| only? Or square root of -x^2 ? Would it be |x| only?

Thank you Bunuel

First of all, \(\sqrt{-y * y}=\sqrt{-y^2}\), so it's equivalent to \(\sqrt{-x^2}\).

All numbers on the GMAT are real numbers by default. Hence, for the square root (or any even root) to be defined, the expression under it must be non-negative. Therefore, \(\sqrt{-x^2}\) is defined only when x = 0, (resulting in \(\sqrt{-x^2}=0\)). For any other value of x, \(\sqrt{-x^2}\) results in \(\sqrt{negative}\), making it undefined for GMAT purpose.
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­An easy way to solve it is plugging values.
For example x=-1 y=-2
Then solve the equation:
 1/(-1) - sqr(2*2) =
-1-2=-3
Using the same values:
y-1 =-2-1 =-3

CORRECT: D
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i solve questions with such negative variables by substitutuing them with a negative sign variable:
let
x=-a
y=-b
after substituting the values we get the answer simply by manipulating.
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I don’t quite agree with the solution. it is given in the question that x and y are negative, then how is -x/y not positive, eg., assume x = -2 and y = -3. the equation would be (-(-2)/-2) - (-(-3)(-3))^1/2.

this is my understanding of it, kindly correct me if wrong.
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I don’t quite agree with the solution. it is given in the question that x and y are negative, then how is -x/y not positive, eg., assume x = -2 and y = -3. the equation would be (-(-2)/-2) - (-(-3)(-3))^1/2.

this is my understanding of it, kindly correct me if wrong.
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Yes, you are wrong.

If x = -2 and y = -3, we get:

\(\frac{\sqrt{x^2} }{x}-\sqrt{-y*|y|} = \)

\(=\frac{\sqrt{4} }{-2}-\sqrt{3*3} = \)

\(=-1 - 3 = \)

\(=-4= \)

\(= -1 + y\)
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I did not quite understand the solution. Hi, if we are saying in the following step:

= -1 - |y| = -1 + y since y is negative

then why is |x| / x = -1? By that same logic why is |x| / x not equal to -1/-1 = 1?

Sorry if this is a basic question. Could you please explain where I'm going wrong in my process? Thank you.
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I did not quite understand the solution. Hi, if we are saying in the following step:

= -1 - |y| = -1 + y since y is negative

then why is |x| / x = -1? By that same logic why is |x| / x not equal to -1/-1 = 1?

Sorry if this is a basic question. Could you please explain where I'm going wrong in my process? Thank you.

When a is negative, |a| = -a.
When a is positive, |a| = a.

So, for negative y, -1 - |y| becomes -1 - (-y) = -1 + y.
And for negative x, |x|/x becomes (-x)/x = -1.
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Hi Bunuel, Thanks for explaining, but I still don't get it, my understanding is that yes |x| = -x, but also given that x is negative, we should be able to substitute x in the denominator with -x, resulting |x|/x= -x/-x, hence 1.

Where am I going wrong?


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When a is negative, |a| = -a.
When a is positive, |a| = a.

So, for negative y, -1 - |y| becomes -1 - (-y) = -1 + y.
And for negative x, |x|/x becomes (-x)/x = -1.
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Hi Bunuel, Thanks for explaining, but I still don't get it, my understanding is that yes |x| = -x, but also given that x is negative, we should be able to substitute x in the denominator with -x, resulting |x|/x= -x/-x, hence 1.

Where am I going wrong?




Replacing x with -x knowing it is negative does not make any sense. Suppose we have a simple equation x = -2. We know x is negative, do you replace x with -x and write -x = -2?

When you have something like |x|, then yes, depending on the sign of x you replace it with either x (if x ≥ 0) or -x (if x < 0). But if the denominator is written just as x, there is no absolute value around it, so you do not change it to -x.

If x is negative, then x just stands for a negative number and there is no need to change it to -x.
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I did not quite understand the solution. It's given that x and y are negative numbers, so shouldn't -y be written as -(-y) after putting in the values?
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I did not quite understand the solution. It's given that x and y are negative numbers, so shouldn't -y be written as -(-y) after putting in the values?
Since y is negative, |y| = -y. When you reach -1 - |y|, that becomes -1 - (-y), which simplifies to -1 + y, or y - 1.
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I like the solution - it’s helpful.
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I did not quite understand the solution. how is |x|=-x
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I did not quite understand the solution. how is |x|=-x
Please go through the thread. If that does not help, check the links below.

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For more check Ultimate GMAT Quantitative Megathread

Hope it helps.
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