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Finally...an invite!!
Hoping to have a productive 45 mins of interview and clarify some of the very niche points as highlighted by MRoss2018.

When did you received the interview invite and when is your interview?
Do you mind sharing your profile?

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Application submitted: 8th Dec 2017
Interview Invitation email: 6th Feb 2018
Interview Date: 8th Feb 2018

Profile: 6 years of work ex - 3 years IT (of which 1 year in Japan), 3 years in Banking
B.tech (Instrumentation) + Specialised sponsored MBA in banking and finance
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Hello everyone,

We are another group of current MSCM students. We have received a lot of emails and messages on LinkedIn in the last few months and would like to post feedback on all general questions. We will try to be as honest and clear as possible. We didn’t have anyone to help/guide us as this was basically the first year for the new program but we will try our best to help you guys.

1) Yes, the program is now 10 months as opposed to 12 months before. There is no full time Summer Internship.

2) Consulting Studio is like a Project you do with a company, not at their facility but rather from the school, by organising meetings and sharing information over WebEx. It can’t really be compared to Summer Internship but it’s the best we have right now.

3) We don’t really know if people will get full time jobs from Consulting Studio, as this is the first time this has been launched and the Studio has just begun in Winter. But from our personal prespective, we don’t expect the number to be more than 2-3, if any.

4) There are still opportunities for practical hands on experiences like AT Kearney Projects, Independent Studies & Consulting Studios but it’s no where near as good as before. AT Kearney Projects happen in Fall during peak recruitment cycle & thus, most of the people don’t take it.

5) The academics are pretty good. Some classes might not seem very value adding but in general, we don’t have much complain from academics.

6) We don’t really know what new rules or impact Trump organisation can have. What we will like to clarify though is that STEM doesn’t help you get a job, no employer even looks at STEM. How it does help is that once you’ve a job, you can apply for H1B for 3 years.

7) The job scenario right now is pretty shit & to be honest, only 5 people have jobs right now out of 44. The Ross brand is big but on its own, it’s only helpful, if you’re doing an MBA. With the MSCM degree, it doesn’t help much. Amazon is the only company who recruits on campus for MSCM. Off-campus can be very daunting, not impossible if you keep your focus and keep on trying. Most of the companies, even the big ones, are not very keen to hire or sponsor Internationals right now.

8) For International Students- We don’t recommend you to apply or not apply, that is purely one’s own choice but we do recommend to do your due diligence thoroughly. Managing the academics with assignments and cases and networking vigorously for off-campus jobs can be daunting. It’s still a good program but yes, not the same it was a couple of years ago. It’s very much possible that the implementation of this new program structure is done much better for your batch as the school will have some experience with our batch but again, we can’t be sure of that.

On a personal level, we suggest that if you do apply, do also look for similar programs from other schools like MIT or look at the IOE program in University of Michigan. If you’ve made your decision to come to US, irrespective of the school, we would also suggest to prepare yourself for a tough, exciting, challenging and a stressful year. It is not easy for everyone to manage all this, especially when you’re here on a big loan. So, all the best for your applications and let us know if you have any more questions.

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Dear MRoss2018,

Thank you for such a detailed post! Really appreciate the efforts and candour.

Had a few question though, if you could answer them, it'd be great.

Hello everyone,

We are another group of current MSCM students. We have received a lot of emails and messages on LinkedIn in the last few months and would like to post feedback on all general questions. We will try to be as honest and clear as possible. We didn’t have anyone to help/guide us as this was basically the first year for the new program but we will try our best to help you guys.

Yes, the program is now 10 months as opposed to 12 months before. There is no full time Summer Internship. 

KG: I guess this is in reference to the paid internship that was a part of the curriculum before. Does this directly translate into students having less chance of landing a job and that job hunting basically begins on day 1 itself?

2) Consulting Studio is like a Project you do with a company, not at their facility but rather from the school, by organising meetings and sharing information over WebEx. It can’t really be compared to Summer Internship but it’s the best we have right now. 

KG: Considering that ConStudio has taken the place of internship, does this mean that there has been a decent trimming on the core course structure as well? As in removal of some courses / electives?[/color]

[color=#000000]3) We don’t really know if people will get full time jobs from Consulting Studio, as this is the first time this has been launched and the Studio has just begun in Winter. But from our personal perspective, we don’t expect the number to be more than 2-3, if any. 


KG: What larger purpose does ConStudio serve? (Sorry for being blunt here!)

4) There are still opportunities for practical hands on experiences like AT Kearney Projects, Independent Studies & Consulting Studios but it’s no where near as good as before. AT Kearney Projects happen in Fall during peak recruitment cycle & thus, most of the people don’t take it. 

KG: What is generally the hiring season for majority of roles from this program in the US? As in do companies generally hire near the fiscal end?

5) The academics are pretty good. Some classes might not seem very value adding but in general, we don’t have much complain from academics.

6) We don’t really know what new rules or impact Trump organisation can have. What we will like to clarify though is that STEM doesn’t help you get a job, no employer even looks at STEM. How it does help is that once you’ve a job, you can apply for H1B for 3 years. 

KG: I previously had an understanding that companies would much rather hire a guy with STEM degree coz that relieves the pain of sponsorship for them. If I understand this correctly, STEM or No-STEM, you basically need to fight the same battle to land a job because from the company’s point-of-view, they still have to sponsor an H1-B for you, albeit after 29 odd months. Am I correct?

7) The job scenario right now is pretty shit & to be honest, only 5 people have jobs right now out of 44. The Ross brand is big but on its own, it’s only helpful, if you’re doing an MBA. With the MSCM degree, it doesn’t help much. Amazon is the only company who recruits on campus for MSCM. Off-campus can be very daunting, not impossible if you keep your focus and keep on trying. Most of the companies, even the big ones, are not very keen to hire or sponsor Internationals right now. 

KG: 5/44 ??? Do we have a similar number for December end last year? I ask this because if majority of the hiring happens in the last 3 months (Jan - Mar/Apr) then probably this may not be such a big pain point.
Also, the 5 students who have got placed
(A) Are these with the same organisation
(B) What was the source of their employment - networking or school initiated?
(C) Is there currently an update to this number?
(D) How easy or difficult is for the students to network for jobs with, say, Ross MBA students? Or in other parts of the country?


8) For International Students- We don’t recommend you to apply or not apply, that is purely one’s own choice but we do recommend to do your due diligence thoroughly. Managing the academics with assignments and cases and networking vigorously for off-campus jobs can be daunting. It’s still a good program but yes, not the same it was a couple of years ago. It’s very much possible that the implementation of this new program structure is done much better for your batch as the school will have some experience with our batch but again, we can’t be sure of that. 

KG: How easy / difficult will it be to scout for jobs in the nearby (pun intended) Toronto?

On a personal level, we suggest that if you do apply, do also look for similar programs from other schools like MIT or look at the IOE program in University of Michigan. If you’ve made your decision to come to US, irrespective of the school, we would also suggest to prepare yourself for a tough, exciting, challenging and a stressful year. It is not easy for everyone to manage all this, especially when you’re here on a big loan. So, all the best for your applications and let us know if you have any more questions. 
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Guys any update on the final offer roll out today. When do they start calling? Any idea.
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Guys any update on the final offer roll out today. When do they start calling? Any idea.


I have been waiting as well. Had my interview on 22nd January. Nothing yet. Are you in the United States?


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Nope, New Delhi. India. I too, had my interview on 22nd Jan. Any idea by when will the calls start going out!
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Nope, New Delhi. India. I too, had my interview on 22nd Jan. Any idea by when will the calls start going out!


Supposed to be today! It’s 11:24am in Michigan so hopefully they will be calling people soon!


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Nope, New Delhi. India. I too, had my interview on 22nd Jan. Any idea by when will the calls start going out!


Supposed to be today! It’s 11:24am in Michigan so hopefully they will be calling people soon!


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Good luck man! Hopefully we all can make it. Yes high time they should start the calls: I thought it would have started by 9AM. Nothing till now seems strange.
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ap15 wrote:
Nope, New Delhi. India. I too, had my interview on 22nd Jan. Any idea by when will the calls start going out!


Supposed to be today! It’s 11:24am in Michigan so hopefully they will be calling people soon!


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Good luck man! Hopefully we all can make it. Yes high time they should start the calls: I thought it would have started by 9AM. Nothing till now seems strange.


Thanks, same to you! They probably have a lot of people to call so they will get to everyone eventually throughout the day I assume :)


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Yes. Fingers crossed. Cheers.
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Anyone with calls. No updates yet. ???I guess game over!
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Admitted with $$. Finally!
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Admitted with $$. Finally!

Hey Kunal. Congratulations. Did you get a call or email? What time.
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New post 08 Feb 2018, 10:58
Hey guys,

Congrats on the admit Kunal!! Welcome to Ross MSCM program!!

Update on admits: The admissions are being rolled out starting today, so you can expect to receive a call and a mail in the coming 2 weeks.
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Admitted with $$. Finally!

Hey Kunal. Congratulations. Did you get a call or email? What time.


Hi ap15, I basically received a call from Ms Cheryl about 2 hours ago.

mscmross Thanks folks! You have been a great help! :)
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I got in with $$ too!!!


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Got an admit! :grin:

Couldn't find anything regarding the scholarship though on the financial aid & scholarship letter :|
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Got an admit! :grin:

Couldn't find anything regarding the scholarship though on the financial aid & scholarship letter :|


Cheryl told me I got a scholarship on the phone.


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Nishitha16 wrote:
Got an admit! :grin:

Couldn't find anything regarding the scholarship though on the financial aid & scholarship letter :|


Cheryl told me I got a scholarship on the phone.


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Ditto...Cheryl mentioned about the scholarship on the call but nothing pertaining to the scholarship seems to be mentioned on the financial aid and the scholarship letter that I received via email. Maybe its a glitch with the systems. Not sure.
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rossfan wrote:
Nishitha16 wrote:
Got an admit! :grin:

Couldn't find anything regarding the scholarship though on the financial aid & scholarship letter :|


Cheryl told me I got a scholarship on the phone.


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Ditto...Cheryl mentioned about the scholarship on the call but nothing pertaining to the scholarship seems to be mentioned on the financial aid and the scholarship letter that I received via email. Maybe its a glitch with the systems. Not sure.


The real question is - do we have a whatsapp group yet? :P


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rossfan Had a word with one of the current mscm student. They are planning to start a whatsapp group in a a short while with all the admitted students. That ways they can provide their inputs wherever required.
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