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More experienced employees may require higher salaries than companies want to pay, but it would be wise to remember that experienced employees take half as long as training new employees.

(A) experienced employees take half as long as training new employees
(B) experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do
(C) training experienced employees take half as long as new employees do
(D) training experienced employees takes half as long as it does for new employees
(E) to train experienced employees takes half as long as for new employees
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The problem with D is that "it" refers to the previous activity: training experienced employees. So D is saying that training experienced employees takes half as long as training experienced employees does for new employees. Obviously, this makes no sense at all.

This kind of error shows up repeatedly in SC. Here's one example that comes to mind. Again, "it" refers to the previous noun phrase, leading to absurdity: https://gmatclub.com/forum/lacking-info ... 81026.html
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Anyone can explain why not option D

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B. experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do -
in my opinion it holds true for both inference :
. the employee is getting trained
. the employee is training
Shouldn't this be avoided?
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Anyone can explain why not option D

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training experienced employees takes half as long as it(training experienced employees) does for new employees.

Hope you know now the problem with D.

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More experienced employees may require higher salaries than companies want to pay, but it would be wise to remember that experienced employees take half as long as training new employees.

A experienced employees take half as long as training new employees: WRONG COMPARISON
Explanation: experienced employees take (clause) half as long as training new employees (phrase)

B experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do : CORRECT
Explanation: experienced employees take (clause) half as long to train as new employees do (clause)

C training experienced employees take half as long as new employees do : INCORRECT PARALLELISM
Explanations: 'experienced employees' should be the subject of main and subordinate clause.

D training experienced employees takes half as long as it does for new employees : INCORRECT
Explanation: to whom 'it' refers ?

E to train experienced employees takes half as long as for new employees: WRONG COMPARISON
Explanation: to train experienced employees takes (clause) half as long as for new employees( prepositional phrase)

I hope EXPERTS agree on above !
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More experienced employees may require higher salaries than companies want to pay, but it would be wise to remember that experienced employees take half as long as training new employees.

A experienced employees take half as long as training new employees: WRONG COMPARISON
Explanation: experienced employees take (clause) half as long as training new employees (phrase)

B experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do : CORRECT
Explanation: experienced employees take (clause) half as long to train as new employees do (clause)

C training experienced employees take half as long as new employees do : INCORRECT PARALLELISM
Explanations: 'experienced employees' should be the subject of main and subordinate clause.

D training experienced employees takes half as long as it does for new employees : INCORRECT
Explanation: to whom 'it' refers ?

E to train experienced employees takes half as long as for new employees: WRONG COMPARISON
Explanation: to train experienced employees takes (clause) half as long as for new employees( prepositional phrase)

I hope EXPERTS agree on above !



Doesn't it refer to "training" here? In my opinion, would definitely appreciate inputs here!
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Hi urvashi09,

Please refer to modified sentence as below:
D. training experienced employees takes half as long as training(it) does for new employees.

Basically, we are comparing TIME taken to train experienced employees VS TIME taken to train new employees.
Both sides of "as long as" should return comparable values.
training experienced employees takes: returns TIME for Experienced Employees
training(it) does for new employees: Does not return anything.

B.experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do
experienced employees take: returns TIME for Experienced Employees
to train new employees do: returns TIME for New Employees

Does this clarifies your doubt. This is the way I solved the comparison Qs.
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Could you please tell me why is Option B preferred over option D

In Option D, "it does", which stands for "training does", also signifies time right?
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The problem with D is that "it" refers to the previous activity: training experienced employees. So D is saying that training experienced employees takes half as long as training experienced employees does for new employees. Obviously, this makes no sense at all.

This kind of error shows up repeatedly in SC. Here's one example that comes to mind. Again, "it" refers to the previous noun phrase, leading to absurdity: https://gmatclub.com/forum/lacking-info ... 81026.html



IT is great explanation of why D is wrong.

comparison can make the error which is hard to realize. choice D is a hard error. one way to resist to jumping into an explanation why a choice such as D is wrong is to find out 2 element or contexts of comparison. this way we can find out the correct answer before explaning why a choice like D is wrong. this way makes explanation more easy. honestly, in the test room, it is hard to explain why D is wrong
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Hi, why "C" is wrong can some body explain??
(C) training experienced employees take half as long as new employees do
is there a subject verb agreement error, should it be Training takes rather than training take?
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The problem with D is that "it" refers to the previous activity: training experienced employees. So D is saying that training experienced employees takes half as long as training experienced employees does for new employees. Obviously, this makes no sense at all.

This kind of error shows up repeatedly in SC. Here's one example that comes to mind. Again, "it" refers to the previous noun phrase, leading to absurdity: https://gmatclub.com/forum/lacking-info ... 81026.html


Hi there,
could you please help me clear my doubt

More experienced employees may require higher salaries than companies want to pay, but it would be wise to remember that experienced employees take half as long as training new employees.

(A) experienced employees take half as long as training new employees
(B) experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do
(C) training experienced employees take half as long as new employees do
(D) training experienced employees takes half as long as it does for new employees
(E) to train experienced employees takes half as long as for new employees

(B) experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do - the training is given by the company to the employees right ? so accordingly should the verb be " to be trained " ... the way the AC is written won't that mean exp employees take less time to train (something) that new employees do?


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DmitryFarber wrote:
The problem with D is that "it" refers to the previous activity: training experienced employees. So D is saying that training experienced employees takes half as long as training experienced employees does for new employees. Obviously, this makes no sense at all.

This kind of error shows up repeatedly in SC. Here's one example that comes to mind. Again, "it" refers to the previous noun phrase, leading to absurdity: https://gmatclub.com/forum/lacking-info ... 81026.html


Hi there,
could you please help me clear my doubt

More experienced employees may require higher salaries than companies want to pay, but it would be wise to remember that experienced employees take half as long as training new employees.

(A) experienced employees take half as long as training new employees
(B) experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do
(C) training experienced employees take half as long as new employees do
(D) training experienced employees takes half as long as it does for new employees
(E) to train experienced employees takes half as long as for new employees

(B) experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do - the training is given by the company to the employees right ? so accordingly should the verb be " to be trained " ... the way the AC is written won't that mean exp employees take less time to train (something) that new employees do?


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(B) experienced employees take half as long to train as new employees do - the training is given by the company to the employees right ? so accordingly should the verb be " to be trained " ... the way the AC is written won't that mean exp employees take less time to train (something) that new employees do?
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Hope to get expert's comments on each of the options, why those are wrong.

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'To train' is a kind literary style of using a dynamic active voice rather than a passive voice of 'to be trained'.

We should not take 'to train' as to mean 'to train something', just because such a meaning can also be taken. If we take the experienced employees take half as long to train something, and then we should parallel it with as "new employees take to train something". However, in logic and practice, no company will allow new employees to train something or some other.

On a funny note, 'to train' may also mean to go by train. Can we take that meaning? It would be too weird to take all the available meanings.

Let us face facts; 'to be trained' is not part of any given choice. Then what will be the answer to this authentic GMAT paper test question?
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A compares‘experienced employees’ (noun) to ‘training new employees’ (verb). Wrong
B No comparison errors, probably the right answer
C has the same problem as A but in the reverse order.
D this one took a while to figure out. ‘it’ here refers to ‘training experienced employees’. So the sentence actually says that training new employees takes half as long as itself. Which is absolutely illogical.
E also has a comparison error. It compares a clause to a prepositional phrase.

B is the right choice
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